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Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (Snyder, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
03-24-16 | 11:00 AM
#101
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Maybe in 10 years, Disney will acquire DC and reboot the entire thing.
03-24-16 | 11:38 AM
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03-24-16 | 11:40 AM
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Unfortunately, almost all of the things you quoted (and certainly the things you bolded) are things that were likely to happen whether or not the reviews were kind, because Batman and Superman.
However, if word of mouth is bad, the second week could be dismal at the box office. I have a couple of friends who are waiting specifically to hear my reaction before they even consider buying a ticket.
However, if word of mouth is bad, the second week could be dismal at the box office. I have a couple of friends who are waiting specifically to hear my reaction before they even consider buying a ticket.
03-24-16 | 11:41 AM
#104
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DC Stiffs Jim Starlin At Batman Vs. Superman Premiere
http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/conten...#axzz43l8G2SzW
Looks like it's just a mistake but it made me wonder how many freakin' characters are they using in this movie.
http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/conten...#axzz43l8G2SzW
Looks like it's just a mistake but it made me wonder how many freakin' characters are they using in this movie.
03-24-16 | 11:51 AM
#105
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Zack Snyder on Batman killing people:
And of course he watched the Batman kill-count video... 
Originally Posted by Zack Snyder
I tried to do it in a technical way. There’s a great YouTube video that shows all the kills in the Christopher Nolan movies even though we would perceive them as movies where he doesn’t kill anyone. I think there’s 42 potential kills that Batman does! Also, it goes back and includes even the Tim Burton Batman movies where this reputation as a guy that doesn’t kill comes from.
So, I tried to do it by proxy. Shoot the car they’re in, the car blows up or the grenade would go off in the guy’s hand, or when he shoots the tank and the guy pretty much lights the tank [himself]. I perceive it as him not killing directly, but if the bad guy’s are associated with a thing that happens to blow up, he would say that that’s not really my problem.
A little more like manslaughter than murder, although I would say that in the Frank Miller comic book that I reference, he kills all the time. There’s a scene from the graphic novel where he busts through a wall, takes the guy’s machine gun…I took that little vignette from a scene in The Dark Knight Returns, and at the end of that, he shoots the guy right between the eyes with the machine gun. One shot. Of course, I went to the gas tank, and all of the guys I work with were like, ‘You’ve gotta shoot him in the head’ because they’re all comic book dorks, and I was like, ‘I’m not gonna be the guy that does that!’
So, I tried to do it by proxy. Shoot the car they’re in, the car blows up or the grenade would go off in the guy’s hand, or when he shoots the tank and the guy pretty much lights the tank [himself]. I perceive it as him not killing directly, but if the bad guy’s are associated with a thing that happens to blow up, he would say that that’s not really my problem.
A little more like manslaughter than murder, although I would say that in the Frank Miller comic book that I reference, he kills all the time. There’s a scene from the graphic novel where he busts through a wall, takes the guy’s machine gun…I took that little vignette from a scene in The Dark Knight Returns, and at the end of that, he shoots the guy right between the eyes with the machine gun. One shot. Of course, I went to the gas tank, and all of the guys I work with were like, ‘You’ve gotta shoot him in the head’ because they’re all comic book dorks, and I was like, ‘I’m not gonna be the guy that does that!’
03-24-16 | 12:22 PM
#107
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Snyder is a fucking idiot. His answer is basically everyone else did it so why can't I? Here's the thing Batman has killed both inadvertently and purposefully but there's usually a justification for him doing so. Not just because he's old and that's how he gets his thrills (except if you're Frank Miller and wrote a poor story that fanboys including Snyder fap to). He tries to justify that because Nolan and Burton did it that his should be able to but there doesn't seem to be a good explanation in the film other than he's older and more hardened so he lost all sense of his moral compass. Fuck this interpretation of Batman regardless of whether or not Affleck's performance is the best ever which it may well be under better circumstances.
03-24-16 | 12:27 PM
#108
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Snyder is a fucking idiot. His answer is basically everyone else did it so why can't I? Here's the thing Batman has killed both inadvertently and purposefully but there's usually a justification for him doing so. Not just because he's old and that's how he gets his thrills (except if you're Frank Miller and wrote a poor story that fanboys including Snyder fap to). He tries to justify that because Nolan and Burton did it that his should be able to but there doesn't seem to be a good explanation in the film other than he's older and more hardened so he lost all sense of his moral compass. Fuck this interpretation of Batman regardless of whether or not Affleck's performance is the best ever which it may well be under better circumstances.
03-24-16 | 12:31 PM
#109
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‘Batman v Superman’ Cast, Director Respond to Negative Reviews
Despite some less-than-stellar early reviews, including New York Times critic A.O. Scott saying the film “is about as diverting as having a porcelain sink broken over your head,” the stars of “Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice” and director Zack Snyder are not even close to throwing in the towel on their epic superhero battle.
Although critical response can affect viewers before they even step foot in a theater, Henry Cavill, in his first interview after reviews were published, says that fan reaction is the ultimate test.
“What is really going to matter, I believe, is what the audience says,” Cavill told Yahoo Movies UK, “because they’re the ones who are buying tickets.”
He added that the fans will dictate the success of this film, the longevity of a franchise and whether or not more films like these will be made.
“The audience’s voice is loudest and after this weekend the audience, at least partly, will have spoken,” he said.
Amy Adams, who plays Lois Lane, said that viewers should go into the movie without letting others’ opinions cloud their experience.
“I know that Zack doesn’t make the movies — or none of us are making the movies — for the critics,” she said, adding that fan responses so far have been positive and articulating that they’re “making the films for them.”
Gal Gadot, who plays Wonder Woman, said that Snyder has done an impeccable job at laying the groundwork for more characters in the future.
“Yes, there’s a lot in this movie, but I think he nailed it,” she added.
Snyder, who will begin production on “Justice League” in April, says he’s always been a “comic book guy” so he made this movie using that aesthetic as much as he could.
“I don’t know how else to do it 100%, so it is what it is,” said Snyder.
The film is set to rake in $300 million worldwide this weekend.
“Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice” hits theaters March 25.
Despite some less-than-stellar early reviews, including New York Times critic A.O. Scott saying the film “is about as diverting as having a porcelain sink broken over your head,” the stars of “Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice” and director Zack Snyder are not even close to throwing in the towel on their epic superhero battle.
Although critical response can affect viewers before they even step foot in a theater, Henry Cavill, in his first interview after reviews were published, says that fan reaction is the ultimate test.
“What is really going to matter, I believe, is what the audience says,” Cavill told Yahoo Movies UK, “because they’re the ones who are buying tickets.”
He added that the fans will dictate the success of this film, the longevity of a franchise and whether or not more films like these will be made.
“The audience’s voice is loudest and after this weekend the audience, at least partly, will have spoken,” he said.
Amy Adams, who plays Lois Lane, said that viewers should go into the movie without letting others’ opinions cloud their experience.
“I know that Zack doesn’t make the movies — or none of us are making the movies — for the critics,” she said, adding that fan responses so far have been positive and articulating that they’re “making the films for them.”
Gal Gadot, who plays Wonder Woman, said that Snyder has done an impeccable job at laying the groundwork for more characters in the future.
“Yes, there’s a lot in this movie, but I think he nailed it,” she added.
Snyder, who will begin production on “Justice League” in April, says he’s always been a “comic book guy” so he made this movie using that aesthetic as much as he could.
“I don’t know how else to do it 100%, so it is what it is,” said Snyder.
The film is set to rake in $300 million worldwide this weekend.
“Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice” hits theaters March 25.
03-24-16 | 12:31 PM
#110
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I don't see an issue with Snyder's comments there at all. If people are giving him shit for Batman's actions in this movie, the point is that it's nothing new in both previous iterations and the comic that the story is based off of. Seems like an adequate response, honestly.
03-24-16 | 12:34 PM
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He's not justifying the character doing it in his film. He's using the excuse that because other directors and writers have had Batman kill that his should be able to too. The fact that he has to come out with a response and that's it tells me how little he understands the character. Also again when Batman has killed before it's usually justified. Not just because he's old and that's how he gets his thrills.
03-24-16 | 12:34 PM
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I don't think he's making any of this for fans. I think he's trying to prove to everyone his shit will be awesome above all others.
03-24-16 | 12:38 PM
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Wow.
03-24-16 | 12:40 PM
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He's not justifying the character doing it in his film. He's using the excuse that because other directors and writers have had Batman kill that his should be able to too. The fact that he has to come out with a response and that's it tells me how little he understands the character. Also again when Batman has killed before it's usually justified. Not just because he's old and that's how he gets his thrills.
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03-24-16 | 12:44 PM
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I added the last part in but really it sounds like he's just doing it for the sake of it. I mean come on he uses a fucking Bat branding iron. I think it's pretty evident that he enjoys torturing his enemies and thus gets a thrill out of it.
03-24-16 | 12:49 PM
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I don't see an issue with Snyder's comments there at all. If people are giving him shit for Batman's actions in this movie, the point is that it's nothing new in both previous iterations and the comic that the story is based off of. Seems like an adequate response, honestly.
Actually, I do...I've noticed over the years that when people hate films EVERYTHING in it gets shit on. It becomes a "let's find something else to criticize!!" funfest. On the other hand, when they like a film, things that probably should be criticized get a pass.
03-24-16 | 01:00 PM
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Not true at all. There are numerous films that I love but see the flaws in. There's a difference between some flaws and things I flat out dislike as a fan of the character. If others like this film and the interpretations of the character I could really care less but for me it's as a fan that I'm led to such massive disappointment in something that should be awesome.
03-24-16 | 01:06 PM
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Exactly. A Batman that needs to get back on track is nothing new. A Batman that kills is nothing new. Old angry Batman is nothing new. I don't get the negative reaction.
Actually, I do...I've noticed over the years that when people hate films EVERYTHING in it gets shit on. It becomes a "let's find something else to criticize!!" funfest. On the other hand, when they like a film, things that probably should be criticized get a pass.
Actually, I do...I've noticed over the years that when people hate films EVERYTHING in it gets shit on. It becomes a "let's find something else to criticize!!" funfest. On the other hand, when they like a film, things that probably should be criticized get a pass.
This movie may suck and have a lot of issues, but on the surface this isn't a problem and in line with iterations of Batman that we've seen. Now whether Snyder and company write the character sufficiently to explain his state of mine is another story, but one I can't judge until seeing it myself.
03-24-16 | 01:07 PM
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Not true at all. There are numerous films that I love but see the flaws in. There's a difference between some flaws and things I flat out dislike as a fan of the character. If others like this film and the interpretations of the character I could really care less but for me it's as a fan that I'm led to such massive disappointment in something that should be awesome.
Its true. Whether or not you realize it is another thing..
03-24-16 | 01:17 PM
#120
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But you haven't seen the movie, so it's still an assumption on your part and you're the one inferring more from his words then what's actually there. Nothing in the actual quote is factually wrong, nor do I see how any of it shows that he doesn't understand the character. It's not a Snyder issue, it's your own issue with source material that you already admittedly didn't want to see adapted.
03-24-16 | 01:18 PM
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03-24-16 | 01:21 PM
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03-24-16 | 01:25 PM
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I liked aspects of that but I was critical of it as well.
03-24-16 | 03:11 PM
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