Community - Season Finale - "Advanced Introduction to Finality" - 5/9/13
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Community - Season Finale - "Advanced Introduction to Finality" - 5/9/13
Season 4, Episode 13
Episode Synopsis: In the Season 4 finale, Jeff ponders the future after he receives enough credits to graduate. Elsewhere, the group revisit the darkest timeline. Original Air Date: May 9, 2013
Episode Synopsis: In the Season 4 finale, Jeff ponders the future after he receives enough credits to graduate. Elsewhere, the group revisit the darkest timeline. Original Air Date: May 9, 2013
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Have we already had 12 episodes? That went by way too quickly.
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They're 4 episodes shy for syndication. I read somewhere that the possibilty of a finalé movie that could be chopped up in to 4 episodes to make the even 100.
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The last two were surprisingly above average (Freaky Friday & Origin Story). I'm slightly optimistic about this one.
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This season hasn't been great or anything, but I've enjoyed it for the most part. Way more than most people here at least, a lot of people here seem to have a truly raging hatred for it. Sure the writing has been a bit off, but I still find it pretty entertaining, especially with all that went down between season 3 and 4, it could've been a lot worse.
I still enjoy all the characters and I'd like to see the show given another shot. One short mediocre season shouldn't mean the death of a show. I say give them one more shot and if they can't pick things back up in the fifth season (which will be tough, I admit) then I'll be okay with it ending.
I still enjoy all the characters and I'd like to see the show given another shot. One short mediocre season shouldn't mean the death of a show. I say give them one more shot and if they can't pick things back up in the fifth season (which will be tough, I admit) then I'll be okay with it ending.
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My take is that this season hasn't been awful or anything, but the trend of the show's overall creativity is downward. I really am leaning towards wishing it would just end, mainly because I would be inclined (out of habit or loyalty) to continue to watch next season, even though I think it will continue to be (if just slightly) ultimately disappointing. And frankly, with most of the other Thursday NBC shows that I have habitually watched for the last several years calling it quits this season, I would just as well prefer to have my Thursday evenings free again for doing other things than watching declining NBC sit-coms.
The one possible exception to the above is Parks & Rec, which is still a quality show. I may still tune in for that one, which hopefully will be running in the earliest Thursday night slot next year, so I can have most of the rest of my Thursday evenings free.
The one possible exception to the above is Parks & Rec, which is still a quality show. I may still tune in for that one, which hopefully will be running in the earliest Thursday night slot next year, so I can have most of the rest of my Thursday evenings free.
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Who knows if this will be back but this episode sure played like it was a series finale. I liked this episode a lot. I'm sure people will call this an uncreative rehash of timeline and paintball episodes but I thought it was very well done and it was a lot of fun. Really liked the bumper as well. Loved the ending, perfectly heartfelt.
My complaints of this season is simply that I think the writers didn't get Troy and Abed. Abed especially I felt was a mess most of this season. He was meta like we're used to but it wasn't creatively meta. The problem with Troy I felt had less to do with the writers not getting him and more to do with the moments where they were forcing Troy and Brita on us. The match up doesn't work, it didn't work at the end of last season and it was a waste this season.
If this does get picked up, I don't know where they'll go with it now that Jeff has graduated. If they do a 4 episode 'movie' then I can see it revolving around the group finishing up their semester while trying to figure out what to do with their lives with Jeff watching over them.
My complaints of this season is simply that I think the writers didn't get Troy and Abed. Abed especially I felt was a mess most of this season. He was meta like we're used to but it wasn't creatively meta. The problem with Troy I felt had less to do with the writers not getting him and more to do with the moments where they were forcing Troy and Brita on us. The match up doesn't work, it didn't work at the end of last season and it was a waste this season.
If this does get picked up, I don't know where they'll go with it now that Jeff has graduated. If they do a 4 episode 'movie' then I can see it revolving around the group finishing up their semester while trying to figure out what to do with their lives with Jeff watching over them.
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Who knows if this will be back but this episode sure played like it was a series finale. I liked this episode a lot. I'm sure people will call this an uncreative rehash of timeline and paintball episodes but I thought it was very well done and it was a lot of fun. Really liked the bumper as well. Loved the ending, perfectly heartfelt.
I'm omitting the spot on Troy and Abed commentary, though for my money they missed on Troy more than on Abed.
If this does get picked up, I don't know where they'll go with it now that Jeff has graduated. If they do a 4 episode 'movie' then I can see it revolving around the group finishing up their semester while trying to figure out what to do with their lives with Jeff watching over them.
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There's also the fact that they're at 84. They'd need a 16 episode order to make 100 if 100 mattered. I agree it doesn't. I think syndication isn't strong like it was, but I seem to recall there have been several 80 to 100 episode shows sold into syndication.
Frankly, the likely home for this show is Netflix and/or Amazon Prime.
Frankly, the likely home for this show is Netflix and/or Amazon Prime.
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The number of episodes for syndication is now defaulted to 88 apparently, so 4 episodes is right.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...re-time/92632/
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...re-time/92632/
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Speaking of Netflix, anyone know why this never made it to Netflix? The other 3 shows from the same block have been on there for quite a while, why no Community?
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What in the holy hell was that?
I thought the first 5 or 6 minutes were absolutely great and felt almost exactly like the real Community I remember. They even came right out and made a joke about the messed up timeline this season has had that I was complaining about last week. I had been waffling on whether or not I'd bother buying this season on dvd and decided I would because even though it took 13 episodes I thought the writers had finally nailed it. Then evil Jeff showed up...
I'm not even sure what to think at this point. I don't think I hated it, but like most of this season, it felt like one giant reference to earlier, better episodes. The kicker was when Jeff (or was it Abed?) said something about finally making paintball cool again. Sorry guys, I don't think it worked.
The new writers tried so hard this season and I respect their attempt, but unfortunately I think the magic is dead. The great thing about Community was that it evolved and changed over the years. There were seemingly no limits to what the show could be or what it could do. Now it seems all there's left is to try and mimic it's former greatness. Unfortunately I don't think that's a show I'm interested in watching. Which is sad because I don't know if I've ever loved a show more.
I thought the first 5 or 6 minutes were absolutely great and felt almost exactly like the real Community I remember. They even came right out and made a joke about the messed up timeline this season has had that I was complaining about last week. I had been waffling on whether or not I'd bother buying this season on dvd and decided I would because even though it took 13 episodes I thought the writers had finally nailed it. Then evil Jeff showed up...
I'm not even sure what to think at this point. I don't think I hated it, but like most of this season, it felt like one giant reference to earlier, better episodes. The kicker was when Jeff (or was it Abed?) said something about finally making paintball cool again. Sorry guys, I don't think it worked.
The new writers tried so hard this season and I respect their attempt, but unfortunately I think the magic is dead. The great thing about Community was that it evolved and changed over the years. There were seemingly no limits to what the show could be or what it could do. Now it seems all there's left is to try and mimic it's former greatness. Unfortunately I don't think that's a show I'm interested in watching. Which is sad because I don't know if I've ever loved a show more.
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I think it's probably because Universal makes the others (whatever the 3rd is) whereas Sony is behind Community. I think the Sony part makes it more likely this would go Amazon.
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30 Rock is the 3rd, which I think is Universal too, so the Sony thing makes sense then.
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Re: Community - Season Finale - "Advanced Introduction to Finality" - 5/9/13
The current show runners can't seem to figure out the difference between over the top and cheese. Dan Harmon walked that line beautifully.
This episode started out feeling like classic Community and turned into an uninspired spoof of Community, at least the ending corrected course. Not hilarious but fitting.
This episode started out feeling like classic Community and turned into an uninspired spoof of Community, at least the ending corrected course. Not hilarious but fitting.
Last edited by RichC2; 05-09-13 at 08:58 PM.
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Re: Community - Season Finale - "Advanced Introduction to Finality" - 5/9/13
I thought this was pretty fun, but I can understand the complaints. I think these final 3 episodes showed the most potential (and closest to classic Community) but clearly still not up to previous standards.
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Re: Community - Season Finale - "Advanced Introduction to Finality" - 5/9/13
The number of episodes for syndication is now defaulted to 88 apparently, so 4 episodes is right.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...re-time/92632/
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...re-time/92632/
It's already going to be syndicated on Comedy Central this fall anyway.
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Re: Community - Season Finale - "Advanced Introduction to Finality" - 5/9/13
Oh the things I would do to darkest timeline Annie.
I think part of the problem this year was a 13 episode run with a new creative team. If it winds up on NBC or cable I'll still watch next year. It wasn't as great as previous seasons, but i still enjoyed it and don't have the disdain towards it that others here do.
I think part of the problem this year was a 13 episode run with a new creative team. If it winds up on NBC or cable I'll still watch next year. It wasn't as great as previous seasons, but i still enjoyed it and don't have the disdain towards it that others here do.
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Re: Community - Season Finale - "Advanced Introduction to Finality" - 5/9/13
Anyone see the the chalk board in background of the ceremony toward the end? Six seasons and a movie. Nice nod to the show. Not the greatest episode but felt like a finale.
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Who sets the standard for minimum episodes required to syndicate? Is there a law? Are market forces that picky that people would turn down a syndication deal because they were four episodes short of hitting some arbitrary number of episodes?