Do you count TV seasons as 1 DVD or count each disc?
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Do you count TV seasons as 1 DVD or count each disc?
The search function didn't turn up any results for this, maybe I didn't word it correctly, I don't know.
I'm just curious as to whether you count TV seasons as 1 DVD in your collection, or do you count each individual disc? And why?
As far as I was concerned when I got DVD Profiler, I wasn't interested in padding my numbers by adding each individual disc from each season of a TV series (I'd have a MUCH higher count than I do now), so I just counted each season as 1. I was just curious as to how you guys (figuratively speaking, of course) counted yours in your collections? -kd5-
I'm just curious as to whether you count TV seasons as 1 DVD in your collection, or do you count each individual disc? And why?
As far as I was concerned when I got DVD Profiler, I wasn't interested in padding my numbers by adding each individual disc from each season of a TV series (I'd have a MUCH higher count than I do now), so I just counted each season as 1. I was just curious as to how you guys (figuratively speaking, of course) counted yours in your collections? -kd5-
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Re: Do you count TV seasons as 1 DVD or count each disc?
Whatever DVD Profiler gives me.
However, I prefer each disk being a separate entry [ideally, subdivided by seasons as well, for the complete sets].
Not that I want to pad my count, but just that that way makes it easier for me to check things off and track progress and recall what I have watched and haven't watched. For instance, for some reason my viewings of Farscape, Buffy, and Six Feet Under have been interrupted. Since those titles, IIRC, have each disk as an entry, it's easy to recall where I was.
However, I prefer each disk being a separate entry [ideally, subdivided by seasons as well, for the complete sets].
Not that I want to pad my count, but just that that way makes it easier for me to check things off and track progress and recall what I have watched and haven't watched. For instance, for some reason my viewings of Farscape, Buffy, and Six Feet Under have been interrupted. Since those titles, IIRC, have each disk as an entry, it's easy to recall where I was.
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Re: Do you count TV seasons as 1 DVD or count each disc?
After looking at your collection, I can see where counting each disc has its advantages: You get individual episode summaries that way. As it is with mine, I get the series overview with each season, with episode listings (+ individual episode cast/crew), but no individual episode summary.
I may have to rethink this. -kd5-
I may have to rethink this. -kd5-
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Re: Do you count TV seasons as 1 DVD or count each disc?
I count each disc in the series set. Just makes more sense to me. If you have 7 discs in a series set...how can you just count that as being 1 disc???
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Re: Do you count TV seasons as 1 DVD or count each disc?
1 season = 1 entry.
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Re: Do you count TV seasons as 1 DVD or count each disc?
It depends on what you mean by "count". I've never really cared or had an accurate count of my collection, be it by title, disc, season, whatever.
I guess my first instincts when I hear "what's your count?" would be the number of films I own. If I did a count I think I would count each film as one, even if 4 films are on one disc; each disc of shorts as one; and each TV season as one, no matter what the episode or disc count is. But the number of variables and different possible totals hurts my brain so I just prefer to not care about numbers at all.
I guess my first instincts when I hear "what's your count?" would be the number of films I own. If I did a count I think I would count each film as one, even if 4 films are on one disc; each disc of shorts as one; and each TV season as one, no matter what the episode or disc count is. But the number of variables and different possible totals hurts my brain so I just prefer to not care about numbers at all.
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Re: Do you count TV seasons as 1 DVD or count each disc?
I would actually prefer to keep it like I have it now: Each season counts as 1, but I wish there was a way to get individual episode information (in DVD Profiler) without changing the method of counting the DVDs, and without having to manually enter any of that information. -kd5-
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Re: Do you count TV seasons as 1 DVD or count each disc?
For me each box set only counts as one with TV shows. A movie no matter how many disc is still just 1. 4 Film Favorites are just 1. Multipacks that cram 4 films on 2 1-sided disc with no extras are counted as 1. I even counted Psycho II, III, & IV as 1. However, stuff like X-Men trilogy, Godzilla Collection, ect,. are full individual DVD cases just boxed together. They count as how many there are not as one. Another exception I make is the Triple features that have all 3 disc full versions of the films. Identical to the regular releases with extras just packed together in one triple pack. Those count as 3 to me. I could easily store them in 3 extra DVD cases. They are 3 full movies. Hmmm ... if I bought one of those 100 movies on 50 double sided disc box sets ... I have no idea what to do. Counting that as 1 seems stupid. But tacking on 100 movies to my count seems weirder.
This is a great topic, BTW.
This is a great topic, BTW.
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Re: Do you count TV seasons as 1 DVD or count each disc?
Whatever DVD Profiler gives me.
However, I prefer each disk being a separate entry [ideally, subdivided by seasons as well, for the complete sets].
Not that I want to pad my count, but just that that way makes it easier for me to check things off and track progress and recall what I have watched and haven't watched. For instance, for some reason my viewings of Farscape, Buffy, and Six Feet Under have been interrupted. Since those titles, IIRC, have each disk as an entry, it's easy to recall where I was.
However, I prefer each disk being a separate entry [ideally, subdivided by seasons as well, for the complete sets].
Not that I want to pad my count, but just that that way makes it easier for me to check things off and track progress and recall what I have watched and haven't watched. For instance, for some reason my viewings of Farscape, Buffy, and Six Feet Under have been interrupted. Since those titles, IIRC, have each disk as an entry, it's easy to recall where I was.
This pretty much sums it up for me. well said!
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Re: Do you count TV seasons as 1 DVD or count each disc?
I would actually prefer to keep it like I have it now: Each season counts as 1, but I wish there was a way to get individual episode information (in DVD Profiler) without changing the method of counting the DVDs, and without having to manually enter any of that information. -kd5-
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I guess the number of disks I have doesn't carry much meaning for me. When thinking of or responding about collection size, I think in terms of movie titles (don't consider variations based on cuts), TV series as a whole, and sometimes number of TV seasons.
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Re: Do you count TV seasons as 1 DVD or count each disc?
It's funny; I actually just went through about two weeks ago and changed my DVD Profiler "count as" field counts. I decided that each TV season should count as a singular entry. I thought about counting based on the number of discs, but that made no sense to me since my organization doesn't rely on accounting for the number of physical discs I have. If I used binders or something like that I could see it, but I have them all in their cases on shelves so it's entirely irrelevant to me.
So then I decided that what "entry" really meant to me was "number of stories being told." That equates to an episode count. Each of the first five seasons of The Sopranos is 13 episodes long, meaning there should be 13 entries per season. The problem there, though, was that that bugged me, too. Ultimately I settled on counting each season as a singular entry, with my argument being that each season of a given show generally has its own unique arcs, etc. that tell a larger story. I used the logic behind a serial there; I don't count Batman and Robin (1943) based on its number of chapters; I count it as one story told in episodic installments. Ergo, the first season of The Sopranos is a singular story told in 13 episodic installments, ergo The Sopranos - The Complete First Season is a singular entry.
And now that I've explained all that, I'm again doubting my system. Gah! Why did you have to go and do this to me?!
So then I decided that what "entry" really meant to me was "number of stories being told." That equates to an episode count. Each of the first five seasons of The Sopranos is 13 episodes long, meaning there should be 13 entries per season. The problem there, though, was that that bugged me, too. Ultimately I settled on counting each season as a singular entry, with my argument being that each season of a given show generally has its own unique arcs, etc. that tell a larger story. I used the logic behind a serial there; I don't count Batman and Robin (1943) based on its number of chapters; I count it as one story told in episodic installments. Ergo, the first season of The Sopranos is a singular story told in 13 episodic installments, ergo The Sopranos - The Complete First Season is a singular entry.
And now that I've explained all that, I'm again doubting my system. Gah! Why did you have to go and do this to me?!
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Re: Do you count TV seasons as 1 DVD or count each disc?
It does get confusing. I was just thinking about how a lot of these extras were released on VHS as stand alones. Like "Making of". I used to have a VHS of the making of "Die Hard With A Vengeance". So I guess back in VHS days that would count as separate from the actual movie. 2 entries. Now it's just included on the special features disc.
I saw that "Bond Girls Are Forever" is on DVD on Amazon.com right now. Yet it's just a special feature on one of my James Bond disc.
Perhaps these should not affect count ... but should they be noted in our files? If we rate the film on a scale of 1 to 10 ... what about short films, mini-movies, cartoon episodes, making of, ect,. that are included on a lot of these DVD's. Every Pixar film includes some short film that was shown in theaters prior to the main feature. Should that be counted, made note of, rated separately? Should we have a rating for the film and then one for the contents of the DVD itself?
I know one ... The Pretender Movie Edition DVD. It includes two full movies. Should it count as ...
1 DVD
2 Films
2 Ratings (One for each film)
It gets confusing.
Oh! What about combo packs? DVD / Blu-Ray / Digital Copy ... is that 3 or just 1 entry? Should Digital copies count at all?
My head hurts now.
I saw that "Bond Girls Are Forever" is on DVD on Amazon.com right now. Yet it's just a special feature on one of my James Bond disc.
Perhaps these should not affect count ... but should they be noted in our files? If we rate the film on a scale of 1 to 10 ... what about short films, mini-movies, cartoon episodes, making of, ect,. that are included on a lot of these DVD's. Every Pixar film includes some short film that was shown in theaters prior to the main feature. Should that be counted, made note of, rated separately? Should we have a rating for the film and then one for the contents of the DVD itself?
I know one ... The Pretender Movie Edition DVD. It includes two full movies. Should it count as ...
1 DVD
2 Films
2 Ratings (One for each film)
It gets confusing.
Oh! What about combo packs? DVD / Blu-Ray / Digital Copy ... is that 3 or just 1 entry? Should Digital copies count at all?
My head hurts now.
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Re: Do you count TV seasons as 1 DVD or count each disc?
It does get confusing. I was just thinking about how a lot of these extras were released on VHS as stand alones. Like "Making of". I used to have a VHS of the making of "Die Hard With A Vengeance". So I guess back in VHS days that would count as separate from the actual movie. 2 entries. Now it's just included on the special features disc.
I saw that "Bond Girls Are Forever" is on DVD on Amazon.com right now. Yet it's just a special feature on one of my James Bond disc.
Perhaps these should not affect count ... but should they be noted in our files? If we rate the film on a scale of 1 to 10 ... what about short films, mini-movies, cartoon episodes, making of, ect,. that are included on a lot of these DVD's. Every Pixar film includes some short film that was shown in theaters prior to the main feature. Should that be counted, made note of, rated separately? Should we have a rating for the film and then one for the contents of the DVD itself?
Oh! What about combo packs? DVD / Blu-Ray / Digital Copy ... is that 3 or just 1 entry? Should Digital copies count at all?
With DVDs in combo packs it's a little different because those are the same DVDs being sold separately. But, again, I only own the DVD because it was forced on me; I have no intention of ever watching the DVD from any of my combo packs. (Unless it's something like The Thomas Crown Affair, where for whatever reason, MGM omitted John McTiernan's commentary track from the Blu-ray Disc but threw in the flipper DVD that included it.)
I suppose what I'm saying is that in the case of combo packs, I only consider it a singular entry because the content is simply cloned in additional formats.
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Re: Do you count TV seasons as 1 DVD or count each disc?
I don't count digital copies at all. I guess that could be considered a little inconsistent, but digital copies mean nothing to me, I will never watch them, so I totally ignore them. I've also only got a few titles with digital copies.
Other content on the disk, like the PIxar shorts - I don't count. If I watch a disk, an item in DVDPro, or the stuff on the disk I care about, I mark it off. I'm not really into commentaries so for purposes of my accounting, I don't have to listen to them, and if there are extras I don't care about, I don't watch those either. Most two disk releases, movie and extras on separate disks, are considered one item - I will either decide not to watch the extras, or I will watch them at approximately the same time I watch the movie, so it's like one item.
At first I did add the child profiles without counting them, but in relation to the Unwatched Movie Pile threads, I didn't want to watch 144 hours of content [tv series] and just check off one thing. So I numbered the individual disks, or at least the seasons, where possible.
Other content on the disk, like the PIxar shorts - I don't count. If I watch a disk, an item in DVDPro, or the stuff on the disk I care about, I mark it off. I'm not really into commentaries so for purposes of my accounting, I don't have to listen to them, and if there are extras I don't care about, I don't watch those either. Most two disk releases, movie and extras on separate disks, are considered one item - I will either decide not to watch the extras, or I will watch them at approximately the same time I watch the movie, so it's like one item.
At first I did add the child profiles without counting them, but in relation to the Unwatched Movie Pile threads, I didn't want to watch 144 hours of content [tv series] and just check off one thing. So I numbered the individual disks, or at least the seasons, where possible.
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Re: Do you count TV seasons as 1 DVD or count each disc?
To me, digital copies and special features discs are just part of the actual movie/DVD that I bought and therefore do not rate a separate entry in my collection. Having said that however, The Island, which was given to me as a Christmas present several years ago, was the version with a separate Bonus Disc in its own case. DVD Profiler offered to count that disc as a separate entity and I allowed it because in essence it was a separate entity. That's the only one of those I have though so I was only faced with that dilemma once.
To me, it's not about disc count, it's about documenting my DVD collection. I want to try what Jcheckel suggested with child profiles again. My first attempt automatically counted each disc in the season as a separate entity and gave each one a number. I'm going to play around with that and see if I can get it to give me the episode details without adding to the total count. -kd5-
To me, it's not about disc count, it's about documenting my DVD collection. I want to try what Jcheckel suggested with child profiles again. My first attempt automatically counted each disc in the season as a separate entity and gave each one a number. I'm going to play around with that and see if I can get it to give me the episode details without adding to the total count. -kd5-
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Re: Do you count TV seasons as 1 DVD or count each disc?
as 1 because afterall it is one season, one set and who cares about trumping up collection #'s by disc total. then, you'd have to do it all that way. 2-dvd sets with two versions of same movie, a full-length docu on one, etc...
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Re: Do you count TV seasons as 1 DVD or count each disc?
The film equivalent would be a box set; I wouldn't count the Star Wars Trilogy as a singular entry because Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi stand alone with their own release dates, some changes in production cast and crew, etc.
So if, as you suggest, our counting rules should be consistent (and I agree they should), then this singular topic does expose us to having to answer all of these questions. It sounds entirely trivial--and, really, it is--but for those of us who get caught up in the trivial it's rather important.
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Re: Do you count TV seasons as 1 DVD or count each disc?
I want to try what Jcheckel suggested with child profiles again. My first attempt automatically counted each disc in the season as a separate entity and gave each one a number. I'm going to play around with that and see if I can get it to give me the episode details without adding to the total count. -kd5-
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Re: Do you count TV seasons as 1 DVD or count each disc?
Okay, this thread got under my skin and since our plans today fell apart I've been exploring DVD Profiler for a satisfactory way to address this. Here's what I've currently instituted, and I'll use The Sopranos - The Complete First Season to illustrate. First, make sure to include Child Profiles for all four discs.
In the box set profile, click Personalize. Count as: 0. That's right, the whole box counts as nothing.
In the child profile for Discs 1-3, click Personalize. Collection Number: None. For disc 4, Collection Number is still None, but Count as: 1 (because there's only one episode).
The aggregate then, is 1 collection number, but 13 counted episodes.
In the box set profile, click Personalize. Count as: 0. That's right, the whole box counts as nothing.
In the child profile for Discs 1-3, click Personalize. Collection Number: None. For disc 4, Collection Number is still None, but Count as: 1 (because there's only one episode).
The aggregate then, is 1 collection number, but 13 counted episodes.



