Who really deserved (or didn't) the Oscar for Best Picture??
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Who really deserved (or didn't) the Oscar for Best Picture??
This is in no way a thread to start an argument, but I have a report due on "Who did or didnt deserve the Oscar for Best Picture." The problem is, I havent seen all the movies that were nominated because theyre not out for rent yet (Ive just seen Ray), I do plan on seeing them when theyre out, but my dumb teacher I guess expects us to have seen all the nominated films. So can you guys help me out on the question Who did or didnt deserve the Oscar for Best Picture? Ive been reading reviews but none were really in depth enough to do a comparison. So help me out, heres the nominees
BEST PICTURE
THE AVIATOR
FINDING NEVERLAND
MILLION DOLLAR BABY (The Winner)
RAY
SIDEWAYS
Though I havent seen it, I was leaning towards The Aviator because Martin Scorcese is the shit and Im a sucker for aviation related films.
BEST PICTURE
THE AVIATOR
FINDING NEVERLAND
MILLION DOLLAR BABY (The Winner)
RAY
SIDEWAYS
Though I havent seen it, I was leaning towards The Aviator because Martin Scorcese is the shit and Im a sucker for aviation related films.
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Originally Posted by Ravenous
This is in no way a thread to start an argument, but I have a report due on "Who did or didnt deserve the Oscar for Best Picture." The problem is, I havent seen all the movies that were nominated because theyre not out for rent yet (Ive just seen Ray), I do plan on seeing them when theyre out, but my dumb teacher I guess expects us to have seen all the nominated films. So can you guys help me out on the question Who did or didnt deserve the Oscar for Best Picture? Ive been reading reviews but none were really in depth enough to do a comparison. So help me out, heres the nominees
BEST PICTURE
THE AVIATOR
FINDING NEVERLAND
MILLION DOLLAR BABY (The Winner)
RAY
SIDEWAYS
Though I havent seen it, I was leaning towards The Aviator because Martin Scorcese is the shit and Im a sucker for aviation related films.
BEST PICTURE
THE AVIATOR
FINDING NEVERLAND
MILLION DOLLAR BABY (The Winner)
RAY
SIDEWAYS
Though I havent seen it, I was leaning towards The Aviator because Martin Scorcese is the shit and Im a sucker for aviation related films.
Oh and the right picture, director, actress, and supporting actor won.
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Originally Posted by Ravenous
Though I havent seen it, I was leaning towards The Aviator because Martin Scorcese is the shit and Im a sucker for aviation related films.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
Too bad you couldn't do it for 1998. That is an easy one, "Saving Private Ryan" should've won.
Shakespeare In Love might not have been everyone's cup of tea or been about something as heavy as WWII, but it was overall a great film that hit all the right notes in terms of story, dialogue, acting and directing. In my opinion, it deserved the title of "best picture" over SPR.
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Originally Posted by sherm42
Shakespeare In Love might not have been everyone's cup of tea or been about something as heavy as WWII, but it was overall a great film that hit all the right notes in terms of story, dialogue, acting and directing. In my opinion, it deserved the title of "best picture" over SPR.
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Empire Of The Sun-I still haven't seen a better made drama from Speilberg yet.
I totally agree. (except I do love Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan)
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Way to help out the OP, guys!
This seems like a strange assignment even for a film class because the choice of Best Picture is purely subjective. There is no right answer. If the teacher wants you to "compare and contrast" the films, you are probably going to have to actually see them. The whole Best Picture thing is REALLY Hollywood patting itself on the back for another lackluster year of movie-making. Some years the "best picture" wins and other years, it doesn't.
Yeah, I'm sorry, no help here either....
This seems like a strange assignment even for a film class because the choice of Best Picture is purely subjective. There is no right answer. If the teacher wants you to "compare and contrast" the films, you are probably going to have to actually see them. The whole Best Picture thing is REALLY Hollywood patting itself on the back for another lackluster year of movie-making. Some years the "best picture" wins and other years, it doesn't.
Yeah, I'm sorry, no help here either....
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IT'S A CONSPIRACY, MAAANNN. The Academy is now just toying with Scorcese. It's no longer a matter of "we'll give him an oscar, since he's been snubbed so many time". Now it's "we're going to make him kiss our feet, and push him to make that picture every two years ... BEGGING on his hands and knees for that Oscar".
If you're writing a paper on it, go for The Aviator. You can still catch it in some theaters. And, due to the talent involved, it's probably the most subjective. You have a cast and crew with quite a bit previous Oscar expierence, a filmmaker that's already a staple in American cinema (and will be considered "legendary" in 50 years), and it's just that grand December Miramax movie that the Academy usually eats up. Scorsese is an interesting guy to boot.
IT'S A CONSPIRACY, MAAANNN. The Academy is now just toying with Scorcese. It's no longer a matter of "we'll give him an oscar, since he's been snubbed so many time". Now it's "we're going to make him kiss our feet, and push him to make that picture every two years ... BEGGING on his hands and knees for that Oscar".
If you're writing a paper on it, go for The Aviator. You can still catch it in some theaters. And, due to the talent involved, it's probably the most subjective. You have a cast and crew with quite a bit previous Oscar expierence, a filmmaker that's already a staple in American cinema (and will be considered "legendary" in 50 years), and it's just that grand December Miramax movie that the Academy usually eats up. Scorsese is an interesting guy to boot.
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What about "Shaun of the Dead," scott1598?
My pick was "Sideways," but MDB was a very close second.
My pick was "Sideways," but MDB was a very close second.
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Oh, and you could bash your teacher for placing importance on the Oscars, assuming that he does. In my opinion, they're artistically worthless. But that's just me...
You could also research and write about the BO boost that oscar nominees get, simply from Oscar buzz.
What I'm trying to say is that they need to let Rob Schneider vote.
You could also research and write about the BO boost that oscar nominees get, simply from Oscar buzz.
What I'm trying to say is that they need to let Rob Schneider vote.
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What about "Shaun of the Dead," scott1598?
My pick was "Sideways," but MDB was a very close second.
My pick was "Sideways," but MDB was a very close second.
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I'm still surprised at:
GANDHI over E.T.
and
ANNIE HALL over STAR WARS - Say what you will, but STAR WARS was more of a cinematic achievement over ANNIE HALL and surely deserved more Awards than it got.
GANDHI over E.T.
and
ANNIE HALL over STAR WARS - Say what you will, but STAR WARS was more of a cinematic achievement over ANNIE HALL and surely deserved more Awards than it got.
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There was an Annie Hall in '77?
Never seen it or heard of it.
Saving Private Ryan will also be long remember instead of that other piece of crap...what was it?
Its only been 7 years and all I can remember is that whats her name actress was in it.
Never seen it or heard of it.
Saving Private Ryan will also be long remember instead of that other piece of crap...what was it?
Its only been 7 years and all I can remember is that whats her name actress was in it.
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We've been through this before, but Annie Hall is superior to Star Wars in every way (except sound and SFX). And this is coming from a Star Wars fan.
I disagree that ET > Gandhi too, but not as strongly. Both are better than the other nominees. Missing? The Verdict? TOOTSIE?!?
I disagree that ET > Gandhi too, but not as strongly. Both are better than the other nominees. Missing? The Verdict? TOOTSIE?!?
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Oh, and you could bash your teacher for placing importance on the Oscars, assuming that he does.
That said, I'm not interested in being Ravenous' homework bitch.
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This is easy. The answer is Million Dollar Baby. Why? Because the movie that deserves to win the Oscar is the one the Academy votes to give it to. As if there's some objective answer to what should be best picture.
It'd make a lot more sense to ask what do you think was the best picture of last year, rather then writing a paper saying how the academy member's opinions are wrong.
It'd make a lot more sense to ask what do you think was the best picture of last year, rather then writing a paper saying how the academy member's opinions are wrong.
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You can probably get some good opinions on each of the films, and how "deserving" they were by digging up threads on the actual Oscars discussion as well as any when the nominations came out, since it seems people here don't want to help when they know it's helping
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Originally Posted by Groucho
We've been through this before, but Annie Hall is superior to Star Wars in every way (except sound and SFX). And this is coming from a Star Wars fan.
I disagree that ET > Gandhi too, but not as strongly. Both are better than the other nominees. Missing? The Verdict? TOOTSIE?!?
I disagree that ET > Gandhi too, but not as strongly. Both are better than the other nominees. Missing? The Verdict? TOOTSIE?!?
That's a sound argument, but I don't agree with ANNIE HALL being superior to Star Wars in every way.
To me, STAR WARS is THE WIZARD OF OZ of my generation. It's just my personal opinion that STAR WARS is still the one movie that had the MOST impact in the late '70's, especially 1977.
I'm a fan of Woody Allen's 1970's works, but when I think of 1977, I think of STAR WARS not ANNIE HALL.
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Originally Posted by jeffkjoe
I'm still surprised at:
GANDHI over E.T.
and
ANNIE HALL over STAR WARS - Say what you will, but STAR WARS was more of a cinematic achievement over ANNIE HALL and surely deserved more Awards than it got.
GANDHI over E.T.
and
ANNIE HALL over STAR WARS - Say what you will, but STAR WARS was more of a cinematic achievement over ANNIE HALL and surely deserved more Awards than it got.
As for 1977, there were two great, soon-to-be-classic movies nominated that year, so barring a tie, one had to lose. Just be glad Star Wars lost to Annie Hall instead of one of the other, non-classic nominees (The Goodbye Girl, Julia, or The Turning Point)