shacmasta

Yea, I heard that from one of the stores. But no way will I be able to hold off playing the New GTA game until late june/early july.

Also, Will the new 80gb bundle have backward compatibility or has that been done away with from now on.

QuePaso

Sony was quoted as saying the new 80 gig would have "Similar" PS2 compatibility. What i personally think it means is, it will be the same 40 gig board with no PS2 hardware, but running the all new PS2 emulator that sony has been working on behind the scenes. They release that in a firmware upgrade, ALL PS3s now have PS2 compatibility, including the 40 gigs. Thats my guess.

pinata242

"Similar" to what, though? I hope they bring back PS2 emulation because removing it was asinine.

chipmac

I'm looking to get a PS3 and I've been trying to read as much as I can to make the right decision as to which one to get, the 40GB or the 80GB. I still have my old PS2 so backwards compatibility isn't on the top of my list and I want it for Blu-ray discs more than anything else. My question is if I get the 40GB version will PS2 games from the PSN be playable or does backward compatibility effect both discs and downloads? My local store has one left of each but I was thinking of buying from Sonystyle to get the $100 discount if I buy the 40GB.

QuePaso

"Similar" to the old 80 gig. The wording is exact enough to tell me its not the same hardware, or else he would have just said "same compatibility".

pinata242

I hope you're right, for everyone's sake. But the fact is the hardware has changed since the first 80gb models hit. Right now the latest model has no PS2 compatibility. If the MGS4 80gb bundle is a continuation of that line, all the better.

collven

The 80GB models still have software B/C. The 40GB is the only one that has no PS2 B/C.

pinata242

And that contradicts what I said how? Actually, that's exactly what I said.

Edit: On second read, this sounds harsher than it is. I'm drunk and pissed, but I ain't mad at ya.

Decker

The MGS4 bundle is an 80 GB unit, not a 40.

pinata242

*sigh*
that = the 80gb line = the one with PS2 compatibility.

Jesus people. The point I'm making is the 40gb came after the "first 80gb" models (the ones with PS2 s/w BC).

The typical trend is to reduce costs on the production line. If the 40gb came after the original 80gb, history shows that's what we'll get.

If there's a "new" 80gb coming, the best I have to go on is that the latest model (40gb non-BC) will just have a 80gb hdd in it.

Never-fucking-mind. I guess the rumor of "similar" is good enough.

I need to pass out.

Chris_D

I would have 100% agreed with you that the new 80GB bundle was likely to be the 40GB model with a larger HDD (therefore no emulation). However, it's already been stated on Sony's blog that the MGS 80GB PS3 will have the same level of BC as the existing 80GB model.

I really put this down to the fact that Sony must still have a large back log of 80GBs in the pipe, as I'm quite sure that a BC PS3 is not in their future plans.

Decker

Actually, I don't think it costs them any more. The 80 GB model actually has a HD with more than 80 GB, but the remaining space is partitioned off for BC software emulation (unlike a certain other console that gives people 13 GB of space after BC and calls itself a 20 GB HD).

Brooklyn

The 80 gigs do not have 80 accessible to the user, some is partitioned off just
like the 360s you're describing.

taffer

All this bickering about 80 GB vs 40 GB... which has BC and which doesn't.... which will be packed in with MGS4....

....it only leads to one conclusion, Sony has gone through waaaaay too many SKUs. The people on this forum are generally more knowledgeable than the average consumer, and if we can't even keep all the different SKUs straight ourselves, then how is the average consumer supposed to do so?

Chris_D

Sorry dude, you should realise that the "software" BC model still has the PS2 graphics hardware on the board. That's why Sony was still keen to release another model, the 40GB, to further cut costs.

It would seem that Sony doesn't yet have a pure software BC solution, but at the same time it's rumoured that they will eventually have something available. However this would only be to allow them to sell selected PS2 titles via the PS Store and wouldn't be available for retail disc copies.

Chris_D

I don't have a PS3 of my own yet but I pretty much know all the differences. Ask me a question if you need to .

collven

The "software" BC model only includes the PS2 graphics synthesizer GPU. It does not include PS2's "Emotion Engine" CPU chip. So it does not have all of the PS2 hardware on board.

fujishig

Well, I get confused about the 360 skus too... but that's mainly because I bought both systems early on and haven't bothered to keep up with the news since (I only browse the 360 updates because of the inclusion of HDMI and the better/more reliable chip set, which might be worth an upgrade if my 360 ever bricks)

Walker Boh

I don't think there's an official Folklore thread (I couldn't find it in a search), so I'll ask it here ...

How does the DLC integrate into the game? Is it just added in to various points of the game, or can I go straight to the new stuff from the menu? I'm just wondering if I should buy the DLC before I start playing the game or if I can wait until later.

darkside

You can go straight to it I believe. I think there is a menu option that lets you access the new missions and costumes.

Walker Boh

Great ... thanks.

bahgee

Amazon.com has a decent price for the Dualshock 3 - $49.99 shipped!
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-98050-Dua...5198898&sr=8-3

Supermallet

That's a decent price? Looks like MSRP to me. Where's the pre-order discount? Also, looks like Amazon is taking pre-orders on Final Fantasy Versus 13 already.

bahgee

I thought MSRP was $54.99. $5 off, no tax, and free shipping works for me.

tonymontana313

Thanks man. I was this close to ordering the import from Japan but I can hold out for this with a decent price.