Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
We again need the mods to come in, make separate threads and guidelines and then enforce rules, maybe make a thread with poll options on the format. Thing is, we are half way through the season. Not sure if it's worth the hassle
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
Mostly I responded to all this because it ocurred to me how awesome the impact of the Renly assassination was having had no idea it was coming. Yes, I knew the vag-monster was not created to deliver a candygram, but you get the point.
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And Tywin definitely respects intelligence given that he made his imp son the Hand of the King. Few others would've promoted a dwarf to such a role, no matter how smart, yet Tywin seemed to know Tyrion was the best person he had available to him to appoint to that role in his own place.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
Yeah, I figured maybe it'd lay waste to half of Renly's army or something like that...I had no idea it'd just *poof* and kill him like that. That blew me away.
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Not to mention right near the beginning of the episode. You kind of brace yourself 45 minutes in, but that was a real "Whoa!" moment. Not quite as big as the Ned Stark execution, but up there.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
Man, aside from a few posters these threads FUCKING SUCK.
So much bitching. I didn't read the books... whatever. Don't even open the goddamn threads if you don't want to get spoiled.
I realize this will be a constant point of contention for some, but, really, if it's such an aggravation then just avoid the threads.
So much bitching. I didn't read the books... whatever. Don't even open the goddamn threads if you don't want to get spoiled.
I realize this will be a constant point of contention for some, but, really, if it's such an aggravation then just avoid the threads.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
Man, aside from a few posters these threads FUCKING SUCK.
So much bitching. I didn't read the books... whatever. Don't even open the goddamn threads if you don't want to get spoiled.
I realize this will be a constant point of contention for some, but, really, if it's such an aggravation then just avoid the threads.
So much bitching. I didn't read the books... whatever. Don't even open the goddamn threads if you don't want to get spoiled.
I realize this will be a constant point of contention for some, but, really, if it's such an aggravation then just avoid the threads.
If only there was a website linked several times that collected all the show information into some sort of wiki without spoiling from the books where cautious people could safely peruse. If only...
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
And, from Tywin's point of view, when she said "Anyone can be killed," as far as he knew she was talking about Robb Stark. Of course we, the audience, know that Arya Stark was making a threat toward Tywin and the other Lannisters, and the way she said it was enough to put Tywin on edge, but not perceive a threat from the girl.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
I always find the "honor" argument silly. So what you are saying is that it is more honorable to fight a protracted battle with his army and his brother's armies killing hundreds of people likely on both sides, than it is to just kill the one person that actually matters?
That is just silly. In my view what Stannis did is more honorable.
That is just silly. In my view what Stannis did is more honorable.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
Out of curiosity, was there an abundance of redheaded women in the dark ages (don't exactly know when this takes place in the grand scale of things)? Seems like all fantasy epics have them in abundance, and this is no exception. Can't find that many nowadays.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
Abundance of redheaded women? Sansa and Melisandre are all I can think of. I know nothing of any others.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
I can't tell what you're implying here. A Clash of Kings is the second book in the series in case you thought he was referencing the 3rd book. If you think having a lot of chapters in this series means you'll live to the next book, you should ask Ned Stark and his 15 chapters how that worked out.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
I don't think people just want information they want to have dialogue about the show, the problem is when half of the posters are book readers you can't really join in the speculation
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
The book readers know where the story is ultimately going but do not know how it will be presented each week -- that's what makes these discussions difficult.
We need to endeavor to keep the discussion to the current episode and enjoy this series as it continues to unfold.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
all I kept thinking was ....
Harrenhal is rumored to be haunted, but Ja'qun Harquar and Arya are the ghosts, killing who they desire.
BTW, I'm under the assumption, because my detailed memory of the books is fuzzy after all these years, that Ja'qun did not HAVE to be a Lannister man, but CHOSE to become a Lannister so he can find Arya and they together can pay back the red god the debt of three lives they owe him.
BTW, I'm under the assumption, because my detailed memory of the books is fuzzy after all these years, that Ja'qun did not HAVE to be a Lannister man, but CHOSE to become a Lannister so he can find Arya and they together can pay back the red god the debt of three lives they owe him.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
Well, I've come to learn that it's best to avoid this thread until a few days later after most of the bickering has subsided. Just dropping by to say this show just amazes me each week. I don't know how they do it, but it just keeps getting better.
I didn't quite understand some of the conversation going on up north of The Wall. What was going on before the rangers set off to attack the [lookout posts?]. Qhorin Halfhand saw some fire off in the distance? And that signifies that the wildlings had joined ["mance"?] who was training them. I thought he was saying "mancer" as in necromancer, but is it referring to a single character? Because the Night's watch ranger seemed to indicate it was only one person. So the plan was to attack the lookout post, but then retreat back to The Wall?
And when Jon Snow was looking out onto the horizon, who blew the horn that alarmed everyone? There was a group of people coming over the ridge in the distance. At first they said 1 blast was for rangers returning, 2 was for wildlings. Then that Bronn look-alike guy (what's his name) said something about someone was coming and 1 blast for friend, 2 for foes. And that's when Samwell chimes in with the 3 for whitewalkers. Can someone clear up what this scene was about and who those people coming were? They didn't seem to be so concerned about them after a few seconds.
I didn't quite understand some of the conversation going on up north of The Wall. What was going on before the rangers set off to attack the [lookout posts?]. Qhorin Halfhand saw some fire off in the distance? And that signifies that the wildlings had joined ["mance"?] who was training them. I thought he was saying "mancer" as in necromancer, but is it referring to a single character? Because the Night's watch ranger seemed to indicate it was only one person. So the plan was to attack the lookout post, but then retreat back to The Wall?
And when Jon Snow was looking out onto the horizon, who blew the horn that alarmed everyone? There was a group of people coming over the ridge in the distance. At first they said 1 blast was for rangers returning, 2 was for wildlings. Then that Bronn look-alike guy (what's his name) said something about someone was coming and 1 blast for friend, 2 for foes. And that's when Samwell chimes in with the 3 for whitewalkers. Can someone clear up what this scene was about and who those people coming were? They didn't seem to be so concerned about them after a few seconds.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
Well, I've come to learn that it's best to avoid this thread until a few days later after most of the bickering has subsided. Just dropping by to say this show just amazes me each week. I don't know how they do it, but it just keeps getting better.
I didn't quite understand some of the conversation going on up north of The Wall. What was going on before the rangers set off to attack the [lookout posts?]. Qhorin Halfhand saw some fire off in the distance? And that signifies that the wildlings had joined ["mance"?] who was training them. I thought he was saying "mancer" as in necromancer, but is it referring to a single character? Because the Night's watch ranger seemed to indicate it was only one person. So the plan was to attack the lookout post, but then retreat back to The Wall?
And when Jon Snow was looking out onto the horizon, who blew the horn that alarmed everyone? There was a group of people coming over the ridge in the distance. At first they said 1 blast was for rangers returning, 2 was for wildlings. Then that Bronn look-alike guy (what's his name) said something about someone was coming and 1 blast for friend, 2 for foes. And that's when Samwell chimes in with the 3 for whitewalkers. Can someone clear up what this scene was about and who those people coming were? They didn't seem to be so concerned about them after a few seconds.
I didn't quite understand some of the conversation going on up north of The Wall. What was going on before the rangers set off to attack the [lookout posts?]. Qhorin Halfhand saw some fire off in the distance? And that signifies that the wildlings had joined ["mance"?] who was training them. I thought he was saying "mancer" as in necromancer, but is it referring to a single character? Because the Night's watch ranger seemed to indicate it was only one person. So the plan was to attack the lookout post, but then retreat back to The Wall?
And when Jon Snow was looking out onto the horizon, who blew the horn that alarmed everyone? There was a group of people coming over the ridge in the distance. At first they said 1 blast was for rangers returning, 2 was for wildlings. Then that Bronn look-alike guy (what's his name) said something about someone was coming and 1 blast for friend, 2 for foes. And that's when Samwell chimes in with the 3 for whitewalkers. Can someone clear up what this scene was about and who those people coming were? They didn't seem to be so concerned about them after a few seconds.
Qhorin (or his men) blew the horn and it was him (the Rangers returning) hence why they weren't concerned after a few seconds ... the concern was that a second or third horn sound could follow which would signify a much less friendly outcome.
Edd is that name of the guy that looks like Bronn ....now the third guy (Yoren) being the other who has been mentioned as looking like Bronn ... LOL
Mance Rayder is a former brother of the Nights Watch who fled the wall, took refuge with the Wildlings and became King beyond the Wall. He [Mance] has gathered up the Wildlings and the concern is that if the scouts see the Nights Watch they will warn Mance. The plan is for the Rangers (and Jon Snow) to sneak up on the lookout and take them out before they can give warning to Mance. They couldn't/didn't return to the Wall because that's where the gathering Wildlings are said to be headed.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
Isn't the Wall pretty much impenetrable? It seems very solid with only one small tunnel...wouldn't it be pretty easy for a few Night's Watch to guard it against many more Wildlings?
And I forget if we've been told already - are the Wildlings supposedly "with" the Whitewalkers (or at least historically, were they)? Or is that possibly what they're fleeing from, their reason for heading south?
And I forget if we've been told already - are the Wildlings supposedly "with" the Whitewalkers (or at least historically, were they)? Or is that possibly what they're fleeing from, their reason for heading south?
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
A suggestion: since everyone has their panties in such a twist about spoilers in these threads, please stop asking questions about things that have not been explained (yet) in the show. Have some patience and some faith that the show knows where it's going. All your questions will be answered.