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Old 11-28-16, 08:54 PM
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Re: METALLICA: "HARDWIRED…TO SELF-DESTRUCT" 2CD/3CD Deluxe 11/18/16

Originally Posted by Rival11
Spit out the bone is one hell of a song huh?

Spit out the bone is on repeat for me right now. I'll be listening to this album for a while.
U mean the song that sounds like MEGADETH, has lyric theme of DYSTOPIA and even the Video looks like the cover of DYSTOPIA...

Yeah it's a great fucking song and along with DYERS EVE & OUTLAW TORN as their best closers.
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Re: METALLICA: "HARDWIRED…TO SELF-DESTRUCT" 2CD/3CD Deluxe 11/18/16

Originally Posted by gerrythedon
U mean the song that sounds like MEGADETH, has lyric theme of DYSTOPIA and even the Video looks like the cover of DYSTOPIA...

Yeah it's a great fucking song and along with DYERS EVE & OUTLAW TORN as their best closers.
Ha, never thought of the megadeath comparisons.
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Re: METALLICA: "HARDWIRED…TO SELF-DESTRUCT" 2CD/3CD Deluxe 11/18/16

Jesus, Hammett's solos suck. They pretty much bring down the whole album. Did Kirk totally phone these in because he was pissed about James and Lars doing all the writing?
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I pulled out St. Anger over the weekend and gave it a listen for the first time in years.
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I pulled out St. Anger over the weekend and gave it a listen for the first time in years.
Did you have to take a dump before the first song was over?
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Originally Posted by EddieMoney
I pulled out St. Anger over the weekend and gave it a listen for the first time in years.
What did you think?

I'll probably do the same soon.

I finally started listening to the CD in the car today after the long holiday break. It definitely sounds better than DM, but the kick is so boomy and forward in the mix. I generally can leave my bass and subwoofer controls in the same place for 95% of metal from the last 10 years. If anything I usually need to give the bass control a bump. With this record I have to reduce it. Lars really has a Napoleon complex doesn't he?

I would have liked for the guitars to sound a little bigger and forward in the mix as well.
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Originally Posted by inri222
Did you have to take a dump before the first song was over?
I made it halfway through track 2 before I had to shit.

Originally Posted by bunkaroo
What did you think?

I'll probably do the same soon.

I finally started listening to the CD in the car today after the long holiday break. It definitely sounds better than DM, but the kick is so boomy and forward in the mix. I generally can leave my bass and subwoofer controls in the same place for 95% of metal from the last 10 years. If anything I usually need to give the bass control a bump. With this record I have to reduce it. Lars really has a Napoleon complex doesn't he?

I would have liked for the guitars to sound a little bigger and forward in the mix as well.
It's really bad. "St. Anger" has not improved with time. Some decent parts to songs, but overall, it's terrible. And the track "Purify" is just ball blisteringly abysmal.
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Originally Posted by EddieMoney
I made it halfway through track 2 before I had to shit.



It's really bad. "St. Anger" has not improved with time. Some decent parts to songs, but overall, it's terrible.
You must be talking 'bout KILL 'EM ALL... Bitch
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Spit Out The Bone

Atlas, Rise!
Moth Into Flame
Halo On Fire

Hardwired
Now That We’re Dead
Dream No More
Confusion
Here Comes Revenge

Lords Of Summer (2016)

Am I Savage?
Murder One

ManUNkind
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Fuck this album. Besides Hammett's garbage-grade solos, they have one of the best thrash bass player in Trujillo, and they fucking bury him in the mix, practically taking him out of the album. Assholes.
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Re: METALLICA: "HARDWIRED…TO SELF-DESTRUCT" 2CD/3CD Deluxe 11/18/16

Originally Posted by slop101
Fuck this album. Besides Hammett's garbage-grade solos, they have one of the best thrash bass player in Trujillo, and they fucking bury him in the mix, practically taking him out of the album. Assholes.
John Myung says hello!

But yeah it's pretty bad. I mentioned before the kicks are taking up so much real estate in the low end it would be impossible to get a nice present bass in the mix. When are they going to learn hearing the bass makes them sound better? See the black album and even Garage Days.
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Originally Posted by slop101
Fuck this album. Besides Hammett's garbage-grade solos, they have one of the best thrash bass player in Trujillo, and they fucking bury him in the mix, practically taking him out of the album. Assholes.
He's actually the best musician in the band, influenced by Jaco and trained in jazz. I guess he doesn't mind slumming for the Metallica dollars.

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Indeed ^


That sucks, though, if he's slumming it. I remember when they said that Roberto would be an equal member, as in 25% shareholder, as opposed to work-for-hire like Newsted was.
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I mean in the current musical landscape I can't blame these guys for taking a paycheck over artistic freedom. I'm guessing Trujillo's agreement with the band keeps him on a tight leash since Newsted's side stuff seemed to be a sore spot before he left. It's just a bummer we don't get to hear more of what Trujillo can do now.

On a smaller scale the same thing happened with Megadeth's current drummer Dirk Verbeuren (ex-Soilwork). The guy is an absolute monster and one of my favorite drummers. He is so overqualified for Megadeth it's not even funny. But Soilwork, even with 10 studio albums and two decades under their belt, still have to play small clubs when they tour and take 3 bands out with them. At least the guy from Lamb of God felt secure enough in his current position to turn down Mustaine. It just sucks Soilwork lost such an integral piece of their sound for the last 12 years just so Mustaine could add him to his long list of revolving door hired guns.
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I'm not faulting Trujillo at all - it's whoever made the decision to diminish his presence that needs an ass-whipping. Why even hire him?

Hammett's problem seems to be his own - I doubt anyone asked him to play shitty, uninspired solos.
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Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
Indeed ^


That sucks, though, if he's slumming it. I remember when they said that Roberto would be an equal member, as in 25% shareholder, as opposed to work-for-hire like Newsted was.
On this new 12 song album, Hetfield & Ulrich have writing credit on 11 songs. The twelfth was written by Hetfield, Ulrich & Trujillo.
So Trijillo only has credit on one song which was co-written with Hetfield & Ulrich. On the other hand, Hammett has zero.
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Originally Posted by slop101
I'm not faulting Trujillo at all - it's whoever made the decision to diminish his presence that needs an ass-whipping. Why even hire him?
Because they can afford to hire the best. I've met a lot of people who are not used to their full abilities in their jobs, but their bosses like having someone of their capabilities around.

I don't disagree with you but I don't think Lars or James give a rat's ass about underutilizing Trujillo. They got someone they know can handle their back catalog live which is really the most important thing for them I think.

Originally Posted by inri222
On this new 12 song album, Hetfield & Ulrich have writing credit on 11 songs. The twelfth was written by Hetfield, Ulrich & Trujillo.
So Trijillo only has credit on one song which was co-written with Hetfield & Ulrich. On the other hand, Hammett has zero.
That one credit is almost certainly for the bass intro on "ManUNkind". So in that sense Trujillo didn't even contribute to the structure or meat of the song. He probably was just noodling around in the jam room and they decided to use it as the start of a song.
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Originally Posted by bunkaroo
They got someone they know can handle their back catalog live which is really the most important thing for them I think.
I think you are correct.
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Originally Posted by inri222
On this new 12 song album, Hetfield & Ulrich have writing credit on 11 songs. The twelfth was written by Hetfield, Ulrich & Trujillo.
So Trijillo only has credit on one song which was co-written with Hetfield & Ulrich. On the other hand, Hammett has zero.

I guess there's a clause that states Hetfield/Ulrich write ALL songs and it's non-negotiable. Not even Hammett - granted, he's not technically an original member, but it's a technicality.


BTW, Megadeth's newest album is terrific. They bounced back after that Supercollider nonsense.

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Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
BTW, Megadeth's newest album is terrific. They bounced back after that Supercollider nonsense.
Agreed. Of the big 4 recent releases, Dystopia is the best IMO. My favorite of theirs since Youthanasia.

I would rank the recent big 4 releases like this:

1. Megadeth - Dystopia
2. Anthrax - For All Kings
3. Metallica - Hardwired...
4. Slayer - Repentless

Metallica and Slayer are basically a tie for me but I dinged Slayer for poor grammar in the album title.
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As an antithesis to Metallica's irreverence, Death Angel is a thrash band that seems to be getting better with age.

This is what's it's like to still have the fire after 30 years.


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Originally Posted by slop101
As an antithesis to Metallica's irreverence, Death Angel is a thrash band that seems to be getting better with age.

This is what's it's like to still have the fire after 30 years.
That was good. Goes to show that just because you're older, doesn't mean you have to turn into an old fart.
I'm 46, I still play in bands and participate in the NYC punk/hardcore/metal scene.

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Originally Posted by slop101
As an antithesis to Metallica's irreverence, Death Angel is a thrash band that seems to be getting better with age.

This is what's it's like to still have the fire after 30 years.


Slop, thanks for the recommendation. I honestly don't listen to a lot of metal, but this was excellent. I just picked up the deluxe edition of "The Evil Divide". I love it when I get introduced to a new band!

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