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Old 04-09-16, 04:11 AM
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See.. I don't think Shannon had a lot to work with in the direction w/ Zod. I hate Zod for the most part. He's pretty generic. Interesting? Sure. But... Shannon has damn near the same expression through it all.

I think Shannon could have been a great Zod but just the direction of it all is just very boring for him.
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Originally Posted by Mike86
The Krypton scenes are awesome in my opinion. Loved Crowe as Jor-El and honestly Shannon was pretty good as Zod too even though I think the parts with Zod are what later bring the overall film down. The whole opening is one of the best things about Man of Steel to me personally. I also don't mind Clark wandering and helping people and the flashbacks to his childhood. The action sequences are when the film falls apart. Like I said shortly after he discovers the ship and his suit is when the film falls apart to me. I don't mind seeing him testing out his powers but the confrontations with Zod and company are what drag the film down. Also I agree about the colors being way too dreary.
You don't mind Jonathan Kent? That whole school bus scene, then his death, was when I first started feeling like the movie wasn't for me. The later action scenes didn't help turn that around, but that "Maybe" scene just took me completely out of it, and it still doesn't make sense to me what the filmmakers were trying to convey except that Pa Kent was a flawed man, especially because never the world nor Clark are ready for each other when he reveals himself, which is one of the premises behind BvS.
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I kind of blanked out the Jonathan Kent death scene. Yeah that's pretty bad. I guess for the most part though I was able to stomach the film up until about the part I mentioned. Costner's Pa Kent isn't very well written but for the most part he didn't bother me too badly until the ridiculous tornado scene.
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My preferred version. I liked MOS but after watching this, not interested in watching the original any more.

Man of Steel: Remastered by Agent 9 - Re-Scored / Re-cut / Recolored

Spoiler:
Editing Details:
- Removal of the Hanz Zimmer Score
- Replaced with the John Williams Score

Because of the Removal of the music, an entirely new 5.1 Dolby Digital track had to be redesigned. Which will include new Sound FX, new Ambiance etc.. while some Sound FX have also been replaced in order to enhance them, especially Superman's takeoff's.

- The entire movie has been Re-Colored

- New VFX: Removed the drone from certain shots aboard the Scout Ship.
Cuts and Additions:
The Edit: Krypton – Sequences Removed:
- In this Version the Codex is the Command Key. It is no longer in Kal'El's blood.
- Birth Scene
- Jor'El talks to Council
- Jor'El is taken prisoner by Zod's men
- Jor'El retrieves the Codex
- Activation of Codex into Kal-El's body
- "Any mention of being born naturally etc."

Removed Scenes / Shots: In no particular order
- Fishing Scene
- Tanker Rescue
- Stealing clothes
- School room sequence
- Bar scene & Truck on Pole
- Clark fighting the Krptonian Drone in Scout ship
- Clark healing Lois
- Church Scene
- When Clark comes home – 2/3 of the scene has been cut.
- Tornado Scene
- Superman trying to fly and crashing
- (Zod's Message) The Other countries receiving the transmission have been removed
- Shots and small sequences of the Fight Between Superman & Faora-Ul in Smallville
- Kryptonian skipping down the road before attacking fighter jet
- Superman laying on the rocks after destroying world engine
- Zod hopping up the building
- Shot of Kryptonian looking at Superman's blood in the syringe
- Scene about Kal'El's blood being the key
- Zod & Jor'El having a conversation aboard the scout ship
- Perry & Gang getting trapped in the rubble of another building
- 1/2 Daily Planet ending scene, Clark gets in Elevator and it cuts to black
- Some shots of Logo's & Trademarks such as Ihop.. etc...

Dialog Removed:
- "I let my father die.."
- "...yada yada yada.....flack jacket...."
- "as for my rescuer............."
- "...yada yada yada.. visit an old friend"
- "I can't print this Lois you may hallucinated....."
- "...yada yada yada..Ive fought these people before"
- "If you destroy this ship, you destroy Krypton"
- "Krypton had its chance"
- "My soul is what you've taken from me"

Moved / Changed:
- Krypton has been cut in a similar fashion to that of the 78' Superman movie
- Lois's search for Clark happens after talking to guy in bar.
- Placed Bus flashback after Lois talks to Pete.
- Flashback Jonathon talking to Clark, now During Clark & Lois conversation
- Flashback of Clark being instigated, now During Clark & Zods conversation
- All shots of Superman taking out World Engine – Cut together
- Superman talking to General is now the last scene

Added Shots / Scenes:
- All New Establishing shots of Planet Krypton
- New Establishing of Antarctic
- New Zoom and establishing of Saturn & Superman's ship
- Shot of the Entrance to the Daily Planet
- Superman Flybys – With completely new sound design
- All new Titles
- All New ending in The tradition Superman cinema style

Movies Used:
- Man of Steel
- Superman Returns
- Guardians of the Galaxy
- Contact
- Superman: The Movie 78'
- The Thing (2011)
- NASA Footage


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It really is amazing how much better the film looks without the dreary colors.
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Yeah. Not sure why Hollywood was all over the Orange and Teal shit.
The re-coloring of this film makes it a completely different experience.
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I'd be interested in seeing that but also don't think it'd be all that clean of an experience based on what that guy has after the fact of just being able to use the released film.

Along w/ that... I don't think the Williams score will ever fit right w/ the visual. And the colors still look off. Appreciated but never looking as clean as one would appreciate it. Again... the lack of tech details not had by this creator.

Still... I'd want to see it to see how much sense it can make of it.

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I agree Williams's score doesn't necessarily fit the action depicted in Man of Steel, which is much more frenetic than anything seen in the original Superman films. The re-coloring does wonders, it would have been nice to see a glimpse of it in Batman v Superman. It does look like Snyder dialed back on the muted Superman colors in BvS, we get a more normal blue and red in his costume. Of course, everything else remained grim and gritty.
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Wtf is with they ugly gray sheen Snyder likes? The statue, buildings, etc. Jesus. Someone needs to slap him and let him know it's ok to have some color in there.

In MoS, it's fucking everywhere. If it hits near the gray spectrum it's a bland sheen that's ugly no matter what. And Damn near everything Kryptonian is like that.

It's dialed the fuck back in BvS but still the man needs to know how to work colors.

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Damn, that fan edit looks sweet.
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http://www.thewrap.com/warner-bros-p...ent-exclusive/

It's official. "Man of Steel 2" is in active development at Warner Brothers.
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Good. I loved Man of Steel and Cavill deserves another solo shot. With Johns at the helm, maybe Superman's resurrection will bring HOPE to the DCU.
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Good. I loved Man of Steel and Cavill deserves another solo shot. With Johns at the helm, maybe Superman's resurrection will bring HOPE to the DCU.
I agree. Now who would be the right person to direct?
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Brad Bird or Alfonso Cuaron.
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Isn't Superman dead?
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If this even happens at all, I wonder if Zack Snyder asks to be the director of it "just to complete his vision for the character", and if WB actually allows it for all the flak they're getting right now that stems mostly from his hiring and starting up this dreary, grimdark universe.
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Isn't Superman dead?
Is it in my head?
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Originally Posted by VHS?
My preferred version. I liked MOS but after watching this, not interested in watching the original any more.

Man of Steel: Remastered by Agent 9 - Re-Scored / Re-cut / Recolored

Spoiler:
Editing Details:
- Removal of the Hanz Zimmer Score
- Replaced with the John Williams Score

Because of the Removal of the music, an entirely new 5.1 Dolby Digital track had to be redesigned. Which will include new Sound FX, new Ambiance etc.. while some Sound FX have also been replaced in order to enhance them, especially Superman's takeoff's.

- The entire movie has been Re-Colored

- New VFX: Removed the drone from certain shots aboard the Scout Ship.
Cuts and Additions:
The Edit: Krypton – Sequences Removed:
- In this Version the Codex is the Command Key. It is no longer in Kal'El's blood.
- Birth Scene
- Jor'El talks to Council
- Jor'El is taken prisoner by Zod's men
- Jor'El retrieves the Codex
- Activation of Codex into Kal-El's body
- "Any mention of being born naturally etc."

Removed Scenes / Shots: In no particular order
- Fishing Scene
- Tanker Rescue
- Stealing clothes
- School room sequence
- Bar scene & Truck on Pole
- Clark fighting the Krptonian Drone in Scout ship
- Clark healing Lois
- Church Scene
- When Clark comes home – 2/3 of the scene has been cut.
- Tornado Scene
- Superman trying to fly and crashing
- (Zod's Message) The Other countries receiving the transmission have been removed
- Shots and small sequences of the Fight Between Superman & Faora-Ul in Smallville
- Kryptonian skipping down the road before attacking fighter jet
- Superman laying on the rocks after destroying world engine
- Zod hopping up the building
- Shot of Kryptonian looking at Superman's blood in the syringe
- Scene about Kal'El's blood being the key
- Zod & Jor'El having a conversation aboard the scout ship
- Perry & Gang getting trapped in the rubble of another building
- 1/2 Daily Planet ending scene, Clark gets in Elevator and it cuts to black
- Some shots of Logo's & Trademarks such as Ihop.. etc...

Dialog Removed:
- "I let my father die.."
- "...yada yada yada.....flack jacket...."
- "as for my rescuer............."
- "...yada yada yada.. visit an old friend"
- "I can't print this Lois you may hallucinated....."
- "...yada yada yada..Ive fought these people before"
- "If you destroy this ship, you destroy Krypton"
- "Krypton had its chance"
- "My soul is what you've taken from me"

Moved / Changed:
- Krypton has been cut in a similar fashion to that of the 78' Superman movie
- Lois's search for Clark happens after talking to guy in bar.
- Placed Bus flashback after Lois talks to Pete.
- Flashback Jonathon talking to Clark, now During Clark & Lois conversation
- Flashback of Clark being instigated, now During Clark & Zods conversation
- All shots of Superman taking out World Engine – Cut together
- Superman talking to General is now the last scene

Added Shots / Scenes:
- All New Establishing shots of Planet Krypton
- New Establishing of Antarctic
- New Zoom and establishing of Saturn & Superman's ship
- Shot of the Entrance to the Daily Planet
- Superman Flybys – With completely new sound design
- All new Titles
- All New ending in The tradition Superman cinema style

Movies Used:
- Man of Steel
- Superman Returns
- Guardians of the Galaxy
- Contact
- Superman: The Movie 78'
- The Thing (2011)
- NASA Footage

Hmmm. I was done when I read John Williams was added and Zimmer was deleted. Fuck that cut on this change alone.


BACK ON TOPIC...


MoS II on its way
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More Superman is always a good thing!

I wonder how big a role Batman will have in it...
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MoS II Villain already announced. That was fast as hell, but expected and it makes sense...



Spoiler:
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
MoS II Villain already announced. That was fast as hell, but expected and it makes sense...



Spoiler:
I thinks it time for Nuclear Man from Quest for Peace to make another appearance!
Old 08-08-16, 06:27 PM
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More Superman is always a good thing!

I wonder how big a role Batman will have in it...
About half of the movie if WB can help it.
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Originally Posted by Kal-El
About half of the movie if WB can help it.
Sounds good to me
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Good to hear it. Hopefully Johns can right this ship.

I like the idea of Brad Bird.

Originally Posted by stvn1974
Isn't Superman dead?


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