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Episode 3: Will it be good or bad?
06-29-04, 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by Doughboy
Oh, and one last thing. When the hell did the majority of SW fans decide that Episode II was a piece of crap?
Oh, and one last thing. When the hell did the majority of SW fans decide that Episode II was a piece of crap?
When they regained their common sense.
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06-29-04, 02:34 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Episode 3: Will it be good or bad?
Originally posted by Abranut
I say again. You don't get flamed for being a Star Wars prequels fan. There are lots of people in this thread who have posted their viewpoints in a civil and acceptable way. You started talking down other posters and putting words in your fellow posters mouths, and I called you on it.
I say again. You don't get flamed for being a Star Wars prequels fan. There are lots of people in this thread who have posted their viewpoints in a civil and acceptable way. You started talking down other posters and putting words in your fellow posters mouths, and I called you on it.
And thanks for taking my smilie out when you quoted my last post to change the tone of it completely. 
?Nope - sorry, a spade is a spade regardless of how you try and dress it up.
06-29-04, 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by Rivero
When they regained their common sense.
When they regained their common sense.
I, at least, have better things to do that repeatedly post about movies I hated, especially years after their release. It's bad enough to have lost the 2 hours or so in the theater suffering through it.
06-29-04, 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by Josh Hinkle
I'm still wondering when people who saw and hated the movie two years ago will regain their common since and stop wasting their time posting about it in every SW thread that comes up.
I, at least, have better things to do that repeatedly post about movies I hated, especially years after their release. It's bad enough to have lost the 2 hours or so in the theater suffering through it.
I'm still wondering when people who saw and hated the movie two years ago will regain their common since and stop wasting their time posting about it in every SW thread that comes up.
I, at least, have better things to do that repeatedly post about movies I hated, especially years after their release. It's bad enough to have lost the 2 hours or so in the theater suffering through it.
I've always wondered when the threadcrapping rules will be enforced in regards to star wars threads. Not so much in this one, since it was asking for opinons - but it seems that not but 5 posts into whatever thread comes up, The Anti-SE, Anti-Luca$ crowd has to start chiming in on how lucas had their goons hold them down and forced them to watch as Luca$ raped the family dog.
Perhaps we could have a "1-and-only Luca$ $ux0rs" thread where we round up the haters and bashers and keep them out of the other threads. They can bash all day long and leave the rest of us alone.
06-29-04, 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by Josh Hinkle
I'm still wondering when people who saw and hated the movie two years ago will regain their common since and stop wasting their time posting about it in every SW thread that comes up.
<Rivero!>
I, at least, have better things to do that repeatedly post about movies I hated, especially years after their release. It's bad enough to have lost the 2 hours or so in the theater suffering through it.<Not Rivero!>
I'm still wondering when people who saw and hated the movie two years ago will regain their common since and stop wasting their time posting about it in every SW thread that comes up.
<Rivero!>
I, at least, have better things to do that repeatedly post about movies I hated, especially years after their release. It's bad enough to have lost the 2 hours or so in the theater suffering through it.<Not Rivero!>
06-29-04, 04:53 PM
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Here is the deal with Episode 3. I can't judge it untill I see it, as nobody can. It is stupid to form an opinion about a movie a year before its release. I enjoyed all 5 previous movies. If all things are constant I will probably enjoy Episode 3 as well, but I can't assert that until I actually see the film. Some people's minds are made up already.
Way before the internet I never knew how much Return of The Jedi sucked. I didn't have internet access when the Special Editions came out and I never knew that they sucked then. The only reason it seems the Prequels suck is because everyone on message boards say they suck. All I know is that when I bring people into the Star Wars universe who are virgins to the influence of the internet they say "Wow that was a pretty cool movie."
Ahh but I digress
Way before the internet I never knew how much Return of The Jedi sucked. I didn't have internet access when the Special Editions came out and I never knew that they sucked then. The only reason it seems the Prequels suck is because everyone on message boards say they suck. All I know is that when I bring people into the Star Wars universe who are virgins to the influence of the internet they say "Wow that was a pretty cool movie."
Ahh but I digress
06-29-04, 05:29 PM
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All I know is that when I bring people into the Star Wars universe who are virgins to the influence of the internet they say "Wow that was a pretty cool movie."
All I know is that when I bring people into the Star Wars universe who are virgins to the influence of the internet they say "Wow that was a pretty cool movie."
06-29-04, 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by Josh Hinkle
I'm still wondering when people who saw and hated the movie two years ago will regain their common since and stop wasting their time posting about it in every SW thread that comes up.
I, at least, have better things to do that repeatedly post about movies I hated, especially years after their release. It's bad enough to have lost the 2 hours or so in the theater suffering through it.
I'm still wondering when people who saw and hated the movie two years ago will regain their common since and stop wasting their time posting about it in every SW thread that comes up.
I, at least, have better things to do that repeatedly post about movies I hated, especially years after their release. It's bad enough to have lost the 2 hours or so in the theater suffering through it.
06-29-04, 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by Rivero
That's if you brought them into the universe with ONLY one of the original three, of course. That's the distinction we are making here.
That's if you brought them into the universe with ONLY one of the original three, of course. That's the distinction we are making here.
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Originally posted by cactusoly
The only reason it seems the Prequels suck is because everyone on message boards say they suck. All I know is that when I bring people into the Star Wars universe who are virgins to the influence of the internet they say "Wow that was a pretty cool movie."
The only reason it seems the Prequels suck is because everyone on message boards say they suck. All I know is that when I bring people into the Star Wars universe who are virgins to the influence of the internet they say "Wow that was a pretty cool movie."
Take my mother, for example. She's not a fanboy by any stretch of the imagination, although she is savvy enough to put together the Palpatine->Sidious-> Emperor connection without any prompting from me or constant exposure to the comics and books. She is probably a good example of John Q Public's view of these movies, and she has enjoyed E1 and 2.
You see, beyond the handful of self-important fanboys on the internet, nobody gives a rats ass if Han shoots first or that Luke screams as he falls on Bespin, or that they changed one line in reel two of the third movie, and that the new movies are actually pretty damn entertaining.
And THAT is why I said that I feel bad for the bitter and angry folks who have so much baggage that they cant enjoy the films for what they are.
06-30-04, 05:23 AM
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I don't see the point of this thread; it's just a needless waste of time. We're all entitled to our opinions. And in the end...if you don't enjoy SW movies anymore...don't see Episode III. Stop being such a spoiled child. No one is making you see the movie (you'll probably complain about the high ticket prices anyway). George Lucas owes the world nothing; stop acting like he hasn't fulfilled his "destiny" as a filmmaker. It's not as if any side is really going to convince the other in the end, so can't we all just get along? i'm not saying that you shouldn't share your opinion...just don't attack others for believing something different.
With that said, here's my opinion of the Prequels:
Many would say that Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back is the best movie in the series. What they don't realize is that it is infinitely easier to set up a story than it is to finish it. It is also infinitely harder to create a prequel to a story you've already told. You've got to give George Lucas credit. He's a brave man for trying at what most filmmakers avoid completely and often fail at when they try.
With that said, here's my opinion of the Prequels:
Many would say that Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back is the best movie in the series. What they don't realize is that it is infinitely easier to set up a story than it is to finish it. It is also infinitely harder to create a prequel to a story you've already told. You've got to give George Lucas credit. He's a brave man for trying at what most filmmakers avoid completely and often fail at when they try.
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Originally posted by Superboy
I don't see the point of this thread; it's just a needless waste of time. We're all entitled to our opinions. And in the end...if you don't enjoy SW movies anymore...don't see Episode III. Stop being such a spoiled child. No one is making you see the movie (you'll probably complain about the high ticket prices anyway). George Lucas owes the world nothing; stop acting like he hasn't fulfilled his "destiny" as a filmmaker. It's not as if any side is really going to convince the other in the end, so can't we all just get along? i'm not saying that you shouldn't share your opinion...just don't attack others for believing something different.
With that said, here's my opinion of the Prequels:
Many would say that Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back is the best movie in the series. What they don't realize is that it is infinitely easier to set up a story than it is to finish it. It is also infinitely harder to create a prequel to a story you've already told. You've got to give George Lucas credit. He's a brave man for trying at what most filmmakers avoid completely and often fail at when they try.
I don't see the point of this thread; it's just a needless waste of time. We're all entitled to our opinions. And in the end...if you don't enjoy SW movies anymore...don't see Episode III. Stop being such a spoiled child. No one is making you see the movie (you'll probably complain about the high ticket prices anyway). George Lucas owes the world nothing; stop acting like he hasn't fulfilled his "destiny" as a filmmaker. It's not as if any side is really going to convince the other in the end, so can't we all just get along? i'm not saying that you shouldn't share your opinion...just don't attack others for believing something different.
With that said, here's my opinion of the Prequels:
Many would say that Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back is the best movie in the series. What they don't realize is that it is infinitely easier to set up a story than it is to finish it. It is also infinitely harder to create a prequel to a story you've already told. You've got to give George Lucas credit. He's a brave man for trying at what most filmmakers avoid completely and often fail at when they try.
06-30-04, 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by filmfreak
This is a two-way street…many people comment about films they dislike on these boards, it’s probably do to disappointment of the said film, so frustration is often exhibited in their writing…. .
This is a two-way street…many people comment about films they dislike on these boards, it’s probably do to disappointment of the said film, so frustration is often exhibited in their writing…. .
I see a movie I hate in the theater, I'll post about it then and then drop it. No sense wasting more time discussing a movie I hated. Life's too short as is.
07-01-04, 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by cactusoly
Here is the deal with Episode 3. I can't judge it untill I see it, as nobody can. It is stupid to form an opinion about a movie a year before its release. I enjoyed all 5 previous movies. If all things are constant I will probably enjoy Episode 3 as well, but I can't assert that until I actually see the film. Some people's minds are made up already.
Way before the internet I never knew how much Return of The Jedi sucked. I didn't have internet access when the Special Editions came out and I never knew that they sucked then. The only reason it seems the Prequels suck is because everyone on message boards say they suck. All I know is that when I bring people into the Star Wars universe who are virgins to the influence of the internet they say "Wow that was a pretty cool movie."
Ahh but I digress
Here is the deal with Episode 3. I can't judge it untill I see it, as nobody can. It is stupid to form an opinion about a movie a year before its release. I enjoyed all 5 previous movies. If all things are constant I will probably enjoy Episode 3 as well, but I can't assert that until I actually see the film. Some people's minds are made up already.
Way before the internet I never knew how much Return of The Jedi sucked. I didn't have internet access when the Special Editions came out and I never knew that they sucked then. The only reason it seems the Prequels suck is because everyone on message boards say they suck. All I know is that when I bring people into the Star Wars universe who are virgins to the influence of the internet they say "Wow that was a pretty cool movie."
Ahh but I digress
Dear lord, this post is EXACTLY what I think about what the internet has done to fandom. Not just SW fandom but all other types sports, Star Trek, Matrix etc etc...
07-01-04, 04:15 PM
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I think the internet has necessarily played a role...but i've noticed people tend to be more negative when expressing their views on the internet. The anonymity helps a lot...it's cuz they don't have the balls to say that kind of stuff in real life...even if it's not what they really think about the movie. People in general tend to be bigger *******s online than they ever would be in real life. And anyone who really IS an ******* in real life probably doesn't bother with the internet.
That said, I wouldn't say that Episode I/II were the best movies ever, and they did let me down somewhat. But they were enjoyable, entertaining movies, and I own both the DVDs, which I watch every now and then. I appreciate the movies much more for what they are now, since my expectations for them have cooled.
That said, I wouldn't say that Episode I/II were the best movies ever, and they did let me down somewhat. But they were enjoyable, entertaining movies, and I own both the DVDs, which I watch every now and then. I appreciate the movies much more for what they are now, since my expectations for them have cooled.
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Originally posted by Superboy
I think the internet has necessarily played a role...but i've noticed people tend to be more negative when expressing their views on the internet. The anonymity helps a lot...it's cuz they don't have the balls to say that kind of stuff in real life...even if it's not what they really think about the movie. People in general tend to be bigger *******s online than they ever would be in real life. And anyone who really IS an ******* in real life probably doesn't bother with the internet.
That said, I wouldn't say that Episode I/II were the best movies ever, and they did let me down somewhat. But they were enjoyable, entertaining movies, and I own both the DVDs, which I watch every now and then. I appreciate the movies much more for what they are now, since my expectations for them have cooled.
I think the internet has necessarily played a role...but i've noticed people tend to be more negative when expressing their views on the internet. The anonymity helps a lot...it's cuz they don't have the balls to say that kind of stuff in real life...even if it's not what they really think about the movie. People in general tend to be bigger *******s online than they ever would be in real life. And anyone who really IS an ******* in real life probably doesn't bother with the internet.
That said, I wouldn't say that Episode I/II were the best movies ever, and they did let me down somewhat. But they were enjoyable, entertaining movies, and I own both the DVDs, which I watch every now and then. I appreciate the movies much more for what they are now, since my expectations for them have cooled.
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Here's another question:
How will episode III be affected by the fact that it is the last Star Wars movie, period?
What I mean is, that since people are split on their feelings about the prequels so far, for the non-fans (of the prequels) Episode III could be considered Lucas' last chance to redeem the series. Also considering that there are so many things to left over from the previous films, that Episode III will need to tie up any loose ends in a satisfactory manner. Will Episode III be hurt by the inevitable lose ends?
How will episode III be affected by the fact that it is the last Star Wars movie, period?
What I mean is, that since people are split on their feelings about the prequels so far, for the non-fans (of the prequels) Episode III could be considered Lucas' last chance to redeem the series. Also considering that there are so many things to left over from the previous films, that Episode III will need to tie up any loose ends in a satisfactory manner. Will Episode III be hurt by the inevitable lose ends?
07-07-04, 03:01 PM
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I hope that the movie is a good one, but i am holding hope close to the vest.
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Will Episode III be hurt by the inevitable lose ends?
I really cant say right now if it will be good or bad since we have just seen production stills and nothing more. give it time.
07-07-04, 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by Abranut
Here's another question:
How will episode III be affected by the fact that it is the last Star Wars movie, period?
Here's another question:
How will episode III be affected by the fact that it is the last Star Wars movie, period?
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Originally posted by Abranut
Episode III could be considered Lucas' last chance to redeem the series.
Episode III could be considered Lucas' last chance to redeem the series.
There is a small percentage of vocal fans in internet chat that loathe the man and his movies. The general population loves them.
Prove me wrong.
07-08-04, 09:22 AM
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Yeah, I'm sure George is crying all the way to the bank. These movies have been immensely successful and will continue to be for years on dvd. With all of the special editions that will follow, he will not be to upset. In fact, I would bet that he is quite proud, and rightfully so, of these movies.
There is a small percentage of vocal fans in internet chat that loathe the man and his movies. The general population loves them.
Yeah, I'm sure George is crying all the way to the bank. These movies have been immensely successful and will continue to be for years on dvd. With all of the special editions that will follow, he will not be to upset. In fact, I would bet that he is quite proud, and rightfully so, of these movies.
There is a small percentage of vocal fans in internet chat that loathe the man and his movies. The general population loves them.
07-08-04, 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by Rivero
Well, Rivero will forgive it's misgivings for that reason alone, at least for a short while. Kinda like the case with Attack of the Clones. Rivero so desperately wanted it to make up for the tragedy that was The Phantom Menace, but after a short while, when it came down to it, Rivero came to the realization that it really wasn't that much better at all.
Well, Rivero will forgive it's misgivings for that reason alone, at least for a short while. Kinda like the case with Attack of the Clones. Rivero so desperately wanted it to make up for the tragedy that was The Phantom Menace, but after a short while, when it came down to it, Rivero came to the realization that it really wasn't that much better at all.