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Old 11-11-13, 02:34 PM   #26
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I was referring to the fact that they waited a really long time to release Aladdin on DVD, and finally did so with weak supplements and negligible promotional fanfare. The release was perfunctory. They treated Aladdin more like one of thier lesser, forgettable efforts - like Oliver and Company or The Fox and the Hound - rather than like the huge box office hit and critical component in their '90s renaissance that it was.
Unfortunately, I think Aladdin is a bit of a victim of political correctness fears. In a way, it's the modern day "Song of the South," in that the Arab anti-defamation league is going to be all over this release in the US because of it's portrayal of Arab society. I remember there being a bit of of a shit storm even during it's initial release, beyond the song lyrics... Even though they we're true to how thieves were handled back in those days.

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Old 11-11-13, 03:31 PM   #27
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Unfortunately, I think Aladdin is a bit of a victim of political correctness fears. In a way, it's the modern day "Song of the South," in that the Arab anti-defamation league is going to be all over this release in the US because of it's portrayal of Arab society. I remember there being a bit of of a shit storm even during it's initial release, beyond the song lyrics... Even though they we're true to how thieves were handled back in those days.
I think we had this conversation about 8 posts ago.
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Old 11-12-13, 06:27 PM   #28
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Unfortunately, I think Aladdin is a bit of a victim of political correctness fears. In a way, it's the modern day "Song of the South," in that the Arab anti-defamation league is going to be all over this release in the US because of it's portrayal of Arab society. I remember there being a bit of of a shit storm even during it's initial release, beyond the song lyrics... Even though they we're true to how thieves were handled back in those days.

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Old 11-12-13, 08:39 PM   #29
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That doesn't make much sense to me. The UK has a huge Arab and Muslim population. It's a much bigger percentage of the population than there is in the US. If PC fears were holding them back, why release it in the UK of all places?
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Old 11-12-13, 09:04 PM   #30
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That doesn't make much sense to me. The UK has a huge Arab and Muslim population. It's a much bigger percentage of the population than there is in the US. If PC fears were holding them back, why release it in the UK of all places?
The main reason is that our special interest groups are just a "tad" more vocal than most of the rest of the world, and dealing with them is a pain in the ass for a studio.

The release will happen, but I'm just not sure when. We haven't gotten 101 Dalmatians, Tarzan or Hercules yet either, so maybe it's part of a 2014 schedule we are not aware of. It seems Disney releases 2-3 non-Diamond editions every Feb and August.

Who knows when we'll see Saludos Amigos, The Three Caballeros, The Black Cauldron, Make Mine Music, Melody Time and The Adventures of Ichabod Crane. (I believe that covers the remaining missing titles... No, I will not count the Toon Disney productions such as A Goofy Movie.)

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Old 11-12-13, 09:06 PM   #31
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I think we had this conversation about 8 posts ago.
We did... But the average attention span on the internet is only 3-5 posts.

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Old 11-12-13, 09:45 PM   #32
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The main reason is that our special interest groups are just a "tad" more vocal than most of the rest of the world, and dealing with them is a pain in the ass for a studio.
I really doubt that the home video release of a 20-year old movie will spark such a massively different reaction in the US than it would in the UK.
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Old 11-13-13, 08:16 AM   #33
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Yea, I agree, I really don't think it's a matter of controversial subject matter, it's just that Disney hasn't put it on the calendar yet. Tarzan and 101 Dalmatians were released in the UK last year and neither of them have been announced for the US either.
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Old 11-13-13, 08:56 AM   #34
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The main reason is that our special interest groups are just a "tad" more vocal than most of the rest of the world, and dealing with them is a pain in the ass for a studio.
Next time you're in London, go to Hyde Park on a Sunday and listen to the large groups of Islamist extremists protesting, proselytizing, and soapboxing. Our special interest groups are entirely harmless in comparison to these loudly vocal nutjobs.
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It entirely has to do with political correctness. Disney has to be the most PC corporation on Earth due to the value and nature of their brand. We will never see a legitimate Song of the South release from Disney.
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Old 11-13-13, 03:15 PM   #36
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Song of the South is a whole other level of racial representation than Aladdin.
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Old 11-15-13, 11:53 AM   #37
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We will never see a legitimate Song of the South release from Disney.
Trust me: you don't want one.
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Old 11-17-13, 03:25 PM   #38
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It's strange to me that Disney always used to release Blu Rays in the US first , and these days we get the first releases over here for example 101 Dalmatians , The Jungle Book , Cinderella and The Little Mermaid have all had Blu Ray debuts in the UK already and tomorrow we get Mary Poppins on Blu Ray!
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Old 11-26-13, 06:28 PM   #39
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Trust me: you don't want one.
I have it on DVD (copied from the LD) but I still want one.
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Old 11-26-13, 07:49 PM   #40
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I have it on DVD (copied from the LD) but I still want one.
May I ask why? Do you like the movie? (This isn't a trick question or anything, I don't think SotS is racist, just a colossal fucking bore...)
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I haven't seen the film, but do think that a lot of people are simply curious about it too. Obviously, it'll forever remain in the realm of bootlegs since Disney damn sure won't ever release it officially.
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Old 11-27-13, 10:14 AM   #42
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May I ask why? Do you like the movie? (This isn't a trick question or anything, I don't think SotS is racist or anything, just a colossal fucking bore...)
Sadly, I agree. Which I discovered only after spending $200 to import the Laserdisc back in the day.
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Old 11-27-13, 09:58 PM   #43
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May I ask why? Do you like the movie? (This isn't a trick question or anything, I don't think SotS is racist, just a colossal fucking bore...)
It's a decent Disney movie and a technical marvel for its time. Plus it's a spit in the face for those wanting to suppress it. I actually have a shrine dedicated to it. http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/4071/1015710.jpg

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Sadly, I agree. Which I discovered only after spending $200 to import the Laserdisc back in the day.
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Old 11-27-13, 10:37 PM   #44
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I'd love to see an official release on, at least, dvd. It's a good movie and an awfully strange move for Disney to promote (at least, at one time) the main song of the movie, zip-a-dee-do-dah, but completely ignore the great movie it comes from. Luckily, I have a really decent quality dvd (well, dvd image. I don't have the money to get a dvd to burn it to) with a lot of features.
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Old 11-28-13, 08:48 AM   #45
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Good movie? If you need to prep for a colonoscopy, maybe...

I don't think it should ever be suppressed, but zowie is it fucking awful.
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Old 11-29-13, 09:54 AM   #46
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Did you ever sell it or do you still have it?
Still have it. It's a dreadful-looking transfer, even before the forced Japanese subtitles over all the songs.
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Old 11-29-13, 10:33 AM   #47
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Someone here hooked me up with a DVD bootleg probably 10 years ago(probably a LD transfer) and I tried to watch it. Forget racial overtones, Hokey described it best... it's just a colossal fucking bore. Never did make it all the way through it.
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Old 11-30-13, 05:05 PM   #48
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Still have it. It's a dreadful-looking transfer, even before the forced Japanese subtitles over all the songs.
I disagree it's an ok transfer. The DVD I have is copied from that LD.

Why don't you sell it?

Also, if anyone has a DVD with no subs, then it's either

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2) copied from the Hong Kong LD which in itself is a copy of the UK VHS
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Why don't you sell it?
Collector's item. Conversation piece.
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Old 12-06-13, 04:50 PM   #50
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I've never seen Song of the South in it's entirety, but I've seen the famous Zippity Doo Daa number and most of the animated sequences. The animated sequences are great and the DP was Greg Tolland the same guy who shot Citizen Kane, so I've always wanted to see the live action sequences.
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