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Buttmunker
04-29-09, 03:27 PM
Look, these are savage monsters we're talking about - Kong included. If people go to Skull Island, they can expect to get bloody - or worse.

There was no blood spilled on Skull Island in any of the films, including the original. Okay, for 1933, I can understand the restraints (they even took out an apparently gory sequence involving spiders in a valley eating damaged sailors)........but what about the rest? 1976? 2005? No blood!

Forget 2005 - it lacked realism, and that was a complete turn-off for me. I want Ann Darrow torn up (despite Kong's "protection," she still would have dislocated joints and scrapes); I want Kong to bleed when other monsters bite him (he didn't get all those scars for nuthin'); I want realistic dialog (a good script?) to come out of the actor's mouths - and most of all, I want people to be SCARED!!!

Frankly, I think a better film can be made of the King Kong story.......

scott1598
04-29-09, 03:41 PM
Yes.

riotinmyskull
04-29-09, 03:43 PM
Yes.

RichC2
04-29-09, 03:48 PM
Yes.

JumpCutz
04-29-09, 03:53 PM
Yes.

KillerCannibal
04-29-09, 03:54 PM
You know what I'd like to see?

I wish someone would make a new King Kong film using the discarded title from the 70's when Universal was developing their own remake: The Legend of King Kong.

It could feature a crew finding the island, dealing with the natives, fighting Kong, etc. and it would end with one lone survivor on a boat drifting out to sea where he would be rescued and recount his story to the crew of the ship that saved him: the Venture.

I always wanted a Kong film that didn't have him dying at the end. Maybe this version could features multiple Kongs, with the climactic battle between King Kong and a rival. Something along those lines. I haven't fully fleshed out my idea, but I'd love to see it happen one day.

Mr. Salty
04-29-09, 04:01 PM
Yes.

Yes.

Forget 2005 - it lacked realism, and that was a complete turn-off for me.
Yes, because realism is what you want in a movie about a giant money who lives on an island that no one has managed to discover that is populated by dinosaurs.

I want Ann Darrow torn up (despite Kong's "protection," she still would have dislocated joints and scrapes)
You're weird.

scott1598
04-29-09, 04:03 PM
You know what I'd like to see?

I wish someone would make a new King Kong film using the discarded title from the 70's when Universal was developing their own remake: The Legend of King Kong.

It could feature a crew finding the island, dealing with the natives, fighting Kong, etc. and it would end with one lone survivor on a boat drifting out to sea where he would be rescued and recount his story to the crew of the ship that saved him: the Venture.

I always wanted a Kong film that didn't have him dying at the end. Maybe this version could features multiple Kongs, with the climactic battle between King Kong and a rival. Something along those lines. I haven't fully fleshed out my idea, but I'd love to see it happen one day.

oh man...now you gave relevance to the thread -ohbfrank-

Buttmunker
04-29-09, 04:04 PM
thank you, KillerCannibal, for not posting another 'Yes.'

Your idea would work along the lines of a 'prequel,' and that ain't a bad idea at all.

This could start a new franchise trilogy (ala Batman Begins) - your Prequel idea, then 'King Kong,' fleshed out into two parts: The Island (Part I); The Capture (Part II).

KillerCannibal
04-29-09, 04:05 PM
oh man...now you gave relevance to the thread -ohbfrank-

Don't lie. You know you want to see it happen.

Fanboy
04-29-09, 04:05 PM
Oh bicycling christ, yes.

DVD Josh
04-29-09, 04:05 PM
Forget 2005 - it lacked realism, and that was a complete turn-off for me.

Nothing screams realism like a 100 foot ape running through New York City destroying everything in its path until taken down by the military.

William Fuld
04-29-09, 04:06 PM
Yes

Bandit03
04-29-09, 04:10 PM
most of all, I want people to be SCARED!!!


Audiences nowadays are not going to be scared of Kong

You know what I'd like to see?

I wish someone would make a new King Kong film using the discarded title from the 70's when Universal was developing their own remake: The Legend of King Kong.

It could feature a crew finding the island, dealing with the natives, fighting Kong, etc. and it would end with one lone survivor on a boat drifting out to sea where he would be rescued and recount his story to the crew of the ship that saved him: the Venture.



:up: That sounds interesting

Yavin
04-29-09, 04:21 PM
I kind of like the idea of the prequel on the island.

As for realism in Jackson's version, I thought the filmmakers gave it realism with Kong's wang (or lack thereof) since they said in reality an ape as large as Kong would have a relatively tiny wang ... wait, what kind of realism were we talking about again?

The Bus
04-29-09, 04:28 PM
Yes.

devilshalo
04-29-09, 04:29 PM
I wouldn't be interested in any more versions of King Kong.

Mopower
04-29-09, 04:29 PM
Just leave out the girl on ape bestiality present in Jacksons version. Ick.

Dr Mabuse
04-29-09, 05:05 PM
is it too soon for another KING KONG remake?
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Oh bicycling christ, yes.
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arminius
04-29-09, 05:11 PM
I'd rather see a remake of The Land That Time Forgot.

KillerCannibal
04-29-09, 05:36 PM
Yes.

Hey! I didn't say yes.

Giantrobo
04-29-09, 05:39 PM
"Kingu Kongu tai Gojira" is itchin' to be remade.

Ash Ketchum
04-29-09, 05:40 PM
Look, these are savage monsters we're talking about - Kong included. If people go to Skull Island, they can expect to get bloody - or worse.

There was no blood spilled on Skull Island in any of the films, including the original. Okay, for 1933, I can understand the restraints (they even took out an apparently gory sequence involving spiders in a valley eating damaged sailors)........but what about the rest? 1976? 2005? No blood!

Forget 2005 - it lacked realism, and that was a complete turn-off for me. I want Ann Darrow torn up (despite Kong's "protection," she still would have dislocated joints and scrapes); I want Kong to bleed when other monsters bite him (he didn't get all those scars for nuthin'); I want realistic dialog (a good script?) to come out of the actor's mouths - and most of all, I want people to be SCARED!!!

Frankly, I think a better film can be made of the King Kong story.......

And how about a realistic Godzilla film where he whacks his tail against a massive skyscraper and--OUCH!--there's a huge bump on his tail and the building is still standing. He knocks at it with his hands and what happens? Welts on his palms. OUCH again! And then he trips over the power lines, which are below his field of vision, and falls over and can't get up. His face is in the ground and he can't use his flame breath for crap. The planes come in, drop a bomb, and "poof"--no more Godzilla. Yeah, that sounds exciting.

scott1598
04-29-09, 05:48 PM
i'd like to see a remake of "The Shawshank Redemption"!!!

KillerCannibal
04-29-09, 06:13 PM
"Kingu Kongu tai Gojira" is itchin' to be remade.

Can't say I disagree with you there. I've been a fan of that film since I was still rockin' training wheels on my bike. I wonder how a new version would have turned out if Universal had gotten their proposed remake off the ground in the late 80's/early 90's. I doubt we'll see it at this point, but with technology doing what it can today I think the results could be epic if they got the right script and director.

cardsfan111
04-29-09, 06:25 PM
i'd like to see a remake of "The Shawshank Redemption"!!!

:lol:

Kicker_of_Elves
04-29-09, 06:35 PM
Yes

i'd like to see a remake of "The Shawshank Redemption"!!!

No! :mad:

Bandit03
04-29-09, 08:00 PM
Hey! I didn't say yes.

Yes you did. The quote says so and quotes don't lie!!

fumanstan
04-29-09, 08:10 PM
Yes.

Although I wouldn't mind something more entertaining then Peter Jackson's.

Mr. Cinema
04-29-09, 08:29 PM
NO

Peter Jackson's version is a terrific action/adventure fantasy. Excellent performance by Watts, amazing Kong effects, thrilling action sequences. Extremely entertaining epic.

naitram
04-29-09, 10:04 PM
Never needed remaking in the first place - the original is perfect. :)

Gunde
04-30-09, 02:40 AM
NO

Peter Jackson's version is a terrific action/adventure fantasy. Excellent performance by Watts, amazing Kong effects, thrilling action sequences. Extremely entertaining epic.
It was good but come on!

I'd totally be down for a dark Kong movie.

MovieMaster11
04-30-09, 02:57 AM
"I'm gonna say maybe". (Tommy boy reference :lol:)

Solid Snake PAC
04-30-09, 04:16 AM
Can't say I disagree with you there. I've been a fan of that film since I was still rockin' training wheels on my bike. I wonder how a new version would have turned out if Universal had gotten their proposed remake off the ground in the late 80's/early 90's. I doubt we'll see it at this point, but with technology doing what it can today I think the results could be epic if they got the right script and director.

and if they got the right Godzilla in there too...I've been wishing for a remaking of that for years. It'd be so epically cool. Though how'd you make sense of that I don't know. Considering that Kong was much much to big as compared to the '33 Kong...though...it was Toho in the '60s.

Buttmunker
04-30-09, 09:18 AM
Nothing screams realism like a 100 foot ape running through New York City destroying everything in its path until taken down by the military.

I don't get you people who trash fantasy films. Of course certain things (actually MOST things) in movies are bogus, but for the time you're invested in the film, you are supposed to suspend disbelief. Like when you were a kid - you watched a monster movie, and there was not one shred of doubt that this could be reality.

Aside from the 1933 original, I think the remakes are lacking in "movie" realism. Like someone said, a dark version of the Kong story is definitely something that would be "new."

For all of Peter Jackson's amazing special effects, that film was way too campy for me. I bought the DVD because I did enjoy Kong himself, but the rest of it can really burn.

DVD Josh
04-30-09, 10:31 AM
Hey! I didn't say yes.

I didn't say yes either, lol.

DVD Josh
04-30-09, 10:32 AM
I don't get you people who trash fantasy films. Of course certain things (actually MOST things) in movies are bogus, but for the time you're invested in the film, you are supposed to suspend disbelief. Like when you were a kid - you watched a monster movie, and there was not one shred of doubt that this could be reality.

Aside from the 1933 original, I think the remakes are lacking in "movie" realism. Like someone said, a dark version of the Kong story is definitely something that would be "new."

For all of Peter Jackson's amazing special effects, that film was way too campy for me. I bought the DVD because I did enjoy Kong himself, but the rest of it can really burn.

Oh, so when you said "realism" you meant "movie realism", which by realism, you meant fantasy, which you then compare to reality.

It's all so clear now...

scott1598
04-30-09, 10:33 AM
but the rest of it can really burn.

try a colonic...really flushes the system.

Buttmunker
04-30-09, 10:37 AM
i'd like to see a remake of "The Shawshank Redemption"!!!

Ha! And a remake of JFK while they're at it (which will be a huge HBO mini-series - a ten-parter - that will be the polar opposite of that Oliver Stone one).

For "Shawshank," get Tom Hanks as "Andy," as it was originally going to be (Hanks couldn't commit due to "Forrest Gump").

But I digress........

We need a real KING KONG!! And actors that are terrified, as opposed to going through the motions as if they were, well.....acting.

Buttmunker
04-30-09, 10:38 AM
Oh, so when you said "realism" you meant "movie realism", which by realism, you meant fantasy, which you then compare to reality.

It's all so clear now...

Aside from your sarcasm, I guess you really enjoy movies (pardon the sarcasm).

DVD Josh
04-30-09, 11:21 AM
Aside from your sarcasm, I guess you really enjoy movies (pardon the sarcasm).

I love movies. All kinds. But you see the point of my points...you aren't making alot of sense my friend.

Buttmunker
04-30-09, 11:43 AM
I love movies. All kinds. But you see the point of my points...you aren't making alot of sense my friend.

Paulie Walnuts?! That you?

As far as 2005's King Kong is concerned, I expected certain things that weren't present in the film. Ann Darrow didn't have a scratch on her. And between the dinosaur stampede scene and the kid shooting bugs off of Driscoll without shooting Driscoll.......those things defy disbelief. It becomes a farce. When Kong is in Manhattan, the military is just shooting up the city, without giving a shit about the fact they're shooting up buildings with people in them. C'mon! You're telling me I should just accept this?! This is a monster movie. We, going into the theater, accept the fact that monsters exist in this film. But humans have to behave accordingly! It is called A MOVIE.

I don't want my King Kong movie to be a farce. I want something better. Something realistic to the story, however unrealistic the story may be.

arminius
04-30-09, 12:45 PM
Paulie Walnuts?! That you?

As far as 2005's King Kong is concerned, I expected certain things that weren't present in the film. Ann Darrow didn't have a scratch on her. And between the dinosaur stampede scene and the kid shooting bugs off of Driscoll without shooting Driscoll.......those things defy disbelief. It becomes a farce. When Kong is in Manhattan, the military is just shooting up the city, without giving a shit about the fact they're shooting up buildings with people in them. C'mon! You're telling me I should just accept this?! This is a monster movie. We, going into the theater, accept the fact that monsters exist in this film. But humans have to behave accordingly! It is called A MOVIE.

I don't want my King Kong movie to be a farce. I want something better. Something realistic to the story, however unrealistic the story may be.
I kinda agree on your other points but, obviously you were never in the Army. Have you ever seen a liberated city. Even more so back then. What is the mission, kill the monkey, if the city gets destroyed in the process thats someone elses problem.

DVD Josh
04-30-09, 03:31 PM
Paulie Walnuts?! That you?

As far as 2005's King Kong is concerned, I expected certain things that weren't present in the film. Ann Darrow didn't have a scratch on her. And between the dinosaur stampede scene and the kid shooting bugs off of Driscoll without shooting Driscoll.......those things defy disbelief. It becomes a farce. When Kong is in Manhattan, the military is just shooting up the city, without giving a shit about the fact they're shooting up buildings with people in them. C'mon! You're telling me I should just accept this?! This is a monster movie. We, going into the theater, accept the fact that monsters exist in this film. But humans have to behave accordingly! It is called A MOVIE.

I don't want my King Kong movie to be a farce. I want something better. Something realistic to the story, however unrealistic the story may be.

I gotta see my ma.....

To me, it's just a movie. You enter that little world where reality gets skewed and you enjoy what's there (or you don't). I never worry about things like reality in movies, it's just not part of the world I'm in for 2 hours or so.

Shannon Nutt
04-30-09, 03:35 PM
I think we need someone to do GODZILLA justice before we tackle KING KONG again.

DVD Josh
04-30-09, 05:23 PM
I think we need someone to do GODZILLA justice before we tackle KING KONG again.

The Japanese have done Godzilla justice numerous times. You might even say that Abrams did Godzilla a semblance of justice.

KillerCannibal
05-01-09, 03:32 PM
The Japanese have done Godzilla justice numerous times. You might even say that Abrams did Godzilla a semblance of justice.

Abrams did Godzilla loads more justice than Emmerich and Devlin. My mouth waters at the thought of Abrams being allowed to remake Godzilla.

devilshalo
05-01-09, 03:55 PM
We need a real KING KONG!! And actors that are terrified, as opposed to going through the motions as if they were, well.....acting.

A real Kong would have eaten Darrow.. and the remaining people would have fled the island. End of movie until they send an A-Bomb.

Heat
05-01-09, 07:52 PM
Adolf Hitler would be proud.

King Kong was his favorite movie (per Trivial Pursuit).

scorpion
05-02-09, 12:54 PM
Yes.

SkullOrchard
05-02-09, 01:40 PM
I'd like to see a King Kong remake, but only if Kong wears a great big General Ursus helmet.

troystiffler
05-02-09, 07:22 PM
I would say that, at the moment, I don't really want another King Kong movie. I don't even know if it'd be fiscally responsible to make another one. Unless they come up with something radical, it just doesn't seem like there's any material there. Even if it were just a Skull Island action flick, I don't see people going nuts over it.

Peter Jackson's Kong was good. It's obviously something that he really wanted to do. It captured the scope of what a King Kong remake should be. WETA did a great job on the effects. But it still didn't punch me as a movie that I will watch and rewatch again.

Maybe I was Peter-Jackson'ed out after the Lord of the Rings movies. As a guy who loved Bad Taste and The Frighteners when I was a little kid, I think it's still a real trip that he's become such a Hollywood powerhouse ... being involved with Speilberg, James Cameron, producing side-projects, etc.

troystiffler
05-02-09, 07:37 PM
I'd totally be down for a dark Kong movie.

Paging Joss Whedon.