Oh come on. There's PLENTY of worse songs than this. Anything by Pink Floyd. Anything by U2. Metallica's "Nothing Else Matters".
nodeerforamonth
09-15-08, 11:33 PM
Terrible song by an awfully terrible band.
Thanks for the threadcrap.
johnbook
09-16-08, 02:25 AM
Great song by an amazing great band.
benedict
09-16-08, 03:23 AM
Thanks for the threadcrap.THis was no more a threadcrap than was your posts citing Pink Floyd & U2. The OP simply asked for opinions and duly received one.
I can see this thread descending into trashtalking and name-calling etc but I'll leave it open for those that a) can transcend such behaviour or b) just need enough rope.
JAA
09-16-08, 07:52 AM
Back in the day I would never have admitted liking it, but I (secretly) did. It was what it was . . . a crossover (disco-groove) song that was perfect for the time. :)
People can hate on IWMFLY all they want for being a Disco Sell Out or whatever. But the truth is it's a great song and KISS really turns it up a notch when doing it live. I know people who hate KISS but still like that song. :lol:
Josh-da-man
09-16-08, 10:02 AM
"I Was Made for Loving You" was proof positive that "KISS Meets the Phantom" wasn't just a fluke, and the band was indeed on a downward spiral into camp.
chino77
09-16-08, 07:51 PM
Terrible song by an awfully terrible band.
dont you mean great song by an awfully terrible band?
chino77
09-16-08, 07:55 PM
Thanks for the threadcrap.
yes please keep your negative opinions to yourself when replying to a thread that asks for opinions.
this thread should have been a poll btw.
porieux
09-16-08, 08:04 PM
Kiss didn't sell out because they were never really about the music in the first place.
Personally, I do not care for anything by them.
Rocketdog2000
09-16-08, 09:06 PM
Kiss didn't sell out because they were never really about the music in the first place.
Personally, I do not care for anything by them.
Spoken like a true non-KISS fan. Tell that to Paul Stanley, because I'm sure he'd have some issue with it. Same for Ace and Peter. Gene, on the other hand, well I can't defend him so much.
Anyway, some info for the uneducated. The song was initially written as a lark, just to prove how easy it was to write a song in that style (disco). The fact that it became a huge hit despite that, says more about the "general" music listening/buying public that it does about the band.
Personally, a bit of a guilty pleasure - but I much prefer the way the band performs it currently. It least it has some balls now.
chino77
09-16-08, 11:20 PM
Spoken like a true non-KISS fan. Tell that to Paul Stanley, because I'm sure he'd have some issue with it. Same for Ace and Peter. Gene, on the other hand, well I can't defend him so much.
Anyway, some info for the uneducated. The song was initially written as a lark, just to prove how easy it was to write a song in that style (disco). The fact that it became a huge hit despite that, says more about the "general" music listening/buying public that it does about the band.
Personally, a bit of a guilty pleasure - but I much prefer the way the band performs it currently. It least it has some balls now.
spoken like a true kiss fan. so that song was written as a lark but the rest of the cd was serious? what is your excuse for the rest of the cd? what about lets put the x in sex? wow kiss is a great band! they are the worse band to ever to ever be called hard rock.
DaveWadding
09-16-08, 11:44 PM
what is your excuse for the rest of the cd? what about lets put the x in sex?
What does a song written almost 10 years after Dynasty have to do with Dynasty exactly?
B5Erik
09-16-08, 11:56 PM
spoken like a true kiss fan. so that song was written as a lark but the rest of the cd was serious? what is your excuse for the rest of the cd? what about lets put the x in sex? wow kiss is a great band! they are the worse band to ever to ever be called hard rock.
If you mean, "They are the worsT band ever to be called hard rock," then the answer is, "Not even close." There have been some absolutely godawful bands out there - most of which you've probably never even heard of (and most of which I've forgotten about since the 80's and 90's).
As to, "Let's Put the X in Sex," that's a crap song, IMO. Most bands have crap songs during their careers - at least if they last past the first or second album. If you survive for 35 years it's almost impossible NOT to have an entire album's worth of crap songs spread out over that span of time.
KISS, on the other hand, have written and recorded some of the absolute best Hard Rock songs ever. "Strutter," "Firehouse," "Cold Gin," "Deuce," "100,000 Years," "Black Diamond," "Got To Choose," "Hotter Than Hell," etc, etc, etc. Great songs.
The singles do not do them justice. Well, some do, some don't. People tend to remember the fluff, unfortunately, and either never hear or forget the really good stuff (because it never gets on the radio).
B5Erik
09-17-08, 12:02 AM
This song kicks ass!
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nodeerforamonth
09-17-08, 12:14 AM
THis was no more a threadcrap than was your posts citing Pink Floyd & U2. The OP simply asked for opinions and duly received one.
Yeah, but I gave examples of how "I Was Made For Loving You" was NOT the "worst song ever". It may be close, but it's not "the worst". If anything, I was defending the song by pointing out that I disagree with edclem.
I didn't actively go into a Pink Floyd or U2 thread and say "they suck and are horrible", which I believe is the defintion of "threadcrap".
Rocketdog2000
09-17-08, 03:16 AM
spoken like a true kiss fan. so that song was written as a lark but the rest of the cd was serious? what is your excuse for the rest of the cd? what about lets put the x in sex? wow kiss is a great band! they are the worse band to ever to ever be called hard rock.
Well, yeah genius, you got me there - I'm a KISS fan alright. (And PS, jokes like that are usually only funny the first time someone makes them, so you're a bit late there. Nice try, though no A for effort.)
I also don't need an excuse for the Dynasty album, because I've got no problems with it. I like it, you don't. End of discussion on that point. You wanna know more, head on over to the other KISS thread we got going (although somehow, I doubt you will).
As for "Let's Put The X In Sex" - as has already been pointed out, this song and Dynasty were 10 years apart, so what's one thing got to do with the other? Other than the fact that both were co-written with Desmond Child (maybe that's the problem?), and were performed by KISS, that's the only connection. However, while I like "I Was Made...", I too think "X In Sex" is pure crap. But, as B5Erik pointed out EVERY band, especially one that's been in the biz as long as they have, makes the occasional crap song here and there. EVERY band. Even the ones you like, that I'm sure others of us here don't, too. But just for your information, even Paul Stanley, the guy who co-wrote the song, isn't too proud of it either. Here's a few direct quotes about it from the horse's mouth in the book that accompanied the KISS boxset...
- It's sometimes difficult to talk about songs because it can be misconstrued. In retrospect, "X In Sex" was the best I could do at the time. So once again the effort was 100%. However, in a life span of band as long as ours, there are bound to be missteps and downright falls.
This song is way too cute for me, and derivative in a way that goes beyond being influenced by something and being obliterated by it. It's a song I have no real feelings for except it was again a blessing in that MTV played it and kept us in the spotlight at a time when music, when rock and roll was certainly not in it's finest hour.
It came from Smashes, Thrashes & Hits, which was a "best of" compilation that featured two new songs - both of which I had hand in, both of which I wish I hadn't had hands.
Gerry P.
09-17-08, 04:29 AM
It's definitely one of the best rock-bands-going-disco songs of the disco era.
Thumbs up.
kms_md
09-17-08, 10:02 AM
It's definitely one of the best rock-bands-going-disco songs of the disco era.
Thumbs up.
well said.
Matt Millheiser
09-17-08, 10:25 AM
spoken like a true kiss fan. so that song was written as a lark but the rest of the cd was serious? what is your excuse for the rest of the cd? what about lets put the x in sex? wow kiss is a great band! they are the worse band to ever to ever be called hard rock.
You couldn't sound more ignorant (and slightly illiterate -- the "worse" [sic] band ever? Sheesh...)
As TOO many people have mentioned, "Lets Put The X In Sex" was not on Dynasty, and in fact was released TEN YEARS after I Was Made For Loving You. And that DYNASTY has a bunch of really good, NON-disco songs on it, but I doubt you've ever listened to a lick of it. I'm not going to argue that KISS didn't devolve into self-parody more than a few times, but they have enough quality in much of their material (especially in the early phase, my personal favorite (debut album, Hotter Than Hell, Dressed To Kill, Alive!)) that to relegate them to the status of "novelty band" is just plain stupid.
wendersfan
09-17-08, 10:41 AM
Terrible song by an awfully terrible band.I would have to agree. KISS has some good songs, even a few great ones (mostly from their first album), but this is not one of them.
cungar
09-17-08, 04:07 PM
The only KISS song I like is Black Diamond but only the version the Replacements did.
wendersfan
09-17-08, 04:16 PM
The only KISS song I like is Black Diamond but only the version the Replacements did.That's certainly a far superior version but it does demonstrate how it's a much better song than the original version would indicate. The Donnas did a great version of "Strutter", I should mention.
Rocketdog2000
09-17-08, 04:27 PM
That's certainly a far superior version but it does demonstrate how it's a much better song than the original version would indicate. The Donnas did a great version of "Strutter", I should mention.
I like the Replacements version, but it's hardly superior - only different. As for KISS, the version on Alive! is better than the studio version - but I'd chock that more up to the producers and the way they recorded it. Even the original is still pretty good.
Josh-da-man
09-17-08, 11:45 PM
Let's put... the X in sex!... Love's like a muscle and you make me wanna flex!
...shudder...
duse
09-18-08, 11:17 PM
As a nine year old, I enjoyed "I Was Made for Loving You." As a nine year old to my current 38 years old, I think 2,000 Man is an extra ordinary song.
They did what they thought they needed to do in 1979 to succeed. They got caught up from being a band people respected (somewhat) to a band your little eight year old brother liked.
Look at the Grateful Dead. I don't judge their career by Shakedown Street or Go to Heaven. Besides, anybody who looked to KISS just for their musical ability was mistaken anyway. They were much Larger Than Life.
I've never heard The Replacement's version, nor did I know one existed. I will check it out. The only covers I remember where what was on KISS MY ASS, and I know those were screened very heavily by the band (Gene and Paul, since Ace was heavily blacked out in most of the pictures). But Bob Dylan proves that most people can cover a song better than the original artist...See any song written by Dylan covered by another artist. BUT Dylan WROTE it. That has to mean something.
Rocketdog2000
09-19-08, 07:00 PM
But Bob Dylan proves that most people can cover a song better than the original artist...See any song written by Dylan covered by another artist. BUT Dylan WROTE it. That has to mean something.
You make a quite excellent point. Bravo!
nothingfails
09-20-08, 03:25 AM
AsBut Bob Dylan proves that most people can cover a song better than the original artist...See any song written by Dylan covered by another artist. BUT Dylan WROTE it. That has to mean something.
another good example is Prince. Don't get me wrong, I love the mans own material, but he has written and performed so much material that is even better when someone else does it, namely female artists. Chaka Khan's I Feel For You, Cyndi Lauper's When You Were Mine and Sinead O'Connor's Nothing Compares 2 U all come to mind as superior to his own renditions (and yes I know NC2U was recorded first by The Family, but Sinead's version is definately better than Prince's own version of it that he did after Sinead took it to #1). Of course, there are exceptions to the rule, such as Mariah Carey's Beautiful Ones.
Regarding KISS covers, I always liked Lenny Kravitz's version of Deuce.
Josh-da-man
09-20-08, 06:50 AM
It's definitely one of the best rock-bands-going-disco songs of the disco era.
Thumbs up.
Not saying much.
"Emotional Rescue?" (God, I hate that song.)
tommyp007
09-20-08, 10:54 AM
I love this song. "Disco KISS !!! "
B5Erik
09-20-08, 08:02 PM
Disco?
Not this version....
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For my money this is THE definitive version of the song, and it shows that this was just a Hard Rock song with Disco trappings back in 1979....
Gerry P.
09-21-08, 04:07 AM
Not saying much.
"Emotional Rescue?" (God, I hate that song.)On the other hand, "Miss You"... fantastic.
chino77
09-22-08, 07:18 PM
What does a song written almost 10 years after Dynasty have to do with Dynasty exactly?
i was drunk and saying they have some very very bad songs.
chino77
09-22-08, 07:27 PM
even Paul Stanley, the guy who co-wrote the song, isn't too proud of it either. Here's a few direct quotes about it from the horse's mouth in the book that accompanied the KISS boxset...
- It's sometimes difficult to talk about songs because it can be misconstrued. In retrospect, "X In Sex" was the best I could do at the time. So once again the effort was 100%. However, in a life span of band as long as ours, there are bound to be missteps and downright falls.
This song is way too cute for me, and derivative in a way that goes beyond being influenced by something and being obliterated by it. It's a song I have no real feelings for except it was again a blessing in that MTV played it and kept us in the spotlight at a time when music, when rock and roll was certainly not in it's finest hour.
It came from Smashes, Thrashes & Hits, which was a "best of" compilation that featured two new songs - both of which I had hand in, both of which I wish I hadn't had hands.
that gave me a touch of respect for paul...not much but a bit more than i had before.
chino77
09-22-08, 07:29 PM
As TOO many people have mentioned, "Lets Put The X In Sex" was not on Dynasty, and in fact was released TEN YEARS after I Was Made For Loving You.
just to be clear i never meant it was on dynasty. i dont even see how the hell you guys got that impression...i guess it has something to do with being a kiss fan.
nothingfails
09-22-08, 08:22 PM
just to be clear i never meant it was on dynasty. i dont even see how the hell you guys got that impression...i guess it has something to do with being a kiss fan.
some KISS fans are just as obnoxious as Madonna and Michael Jackson fans. I remember a few months ago being attacked as someone who only knows "Rock N' Roll All Nite" when I even named Revenge, Lick It Up and Creatures Of The Night as great albums in the same thread simply because I think Gene Simmons is a greedy douchebag who represents what's wrong with the music industry if he refuses to record new material because someone could download it. For that reason, I got attacked and dismissed even tho I'd been a fan of theirs since 1992 simply because I thought Gene sounded like a prick for attacking Radiohead and NIN trying new types of techniques for their fans to listen to their albums. I mean, I've had every KISS album in my collection at one point or another but because I don't think Gene Simmons is the messiah, I'm just some hater whose only ever heard "Rock N' Roll All Nite" to some. :rolleyes: :shrug:
Imprint
09-23-08, 05:12 PM
some KISS fans are just as obnoxious as Madonna and Michael Jackson fans. I remember a few months ago being attacked as someone who only knows "Rock N' Roll All Nite" when I even named Revenge, Lick It Up and Creatures Of The Night as great albums in the same thread simply because I think Gene Simmons is a greedy douchebag who represents what's wrong with the music industry if he refuses to record new material because someone could download it. For that reason, I got attacked and dismissed even tho I'd been a fan of theirs since 1992 simply because I thought Gene sounded like a prick for attacking Radiohead and NIN trying new types of techniques for their fans to listen to their albums. I mean, I've had every KISS album in my collection at one point or another but because I don't think Gene Simmons is the messiah, I'm just some hater whose only ever heard "Rock N' Roll All Nite" to some. :rolleyes: :shrug:
Gene playing The Demon :thumbsup:
Gene playing himself :thmbsdwn:
And to stay on topic, I like the song and Dynasty is one of my favorite Kiss albums. It's just fun.
Buy: