Picked this up when I saw the price dropped to 9.44, was surprised when it rang up 7.50. It was the fixed OAR version.
Also just to add, found a widescreen copy of the cable guy for 5.50. A very good trip to target!
Jtnguyen12
06-09-07, 08:23 PM
Wow!
scott1598
06-10-07, 11:26 AM
what section was this in exactly?
TheMovieman
06-10-07, 11:38 AM
Hmm, might have to check this out. I have the incorrect AR so for $7.50, I might pick it up.
ScissorPuppy
06-10-07, 01:09 PM
It was in the DVD wall in the Media Department. It was an unadvertised sale so i don't know if it was only in the store I went to in Atlanta.
Surfinhank
06-10-07, 02:45 PM
Might be a regional or clearance thing. My Target has it for $9.44.
Manzana
06-10-07, 03:14 PM
Picked this up when I saw the price dropped to 9.44, was surprised when it rang up 7.50. It was the fixed OAR version.
Was there an "unfixed" version? Is there a thread or link about this? I'd like to know if the one I bought a long time ago (used from Blockbuster for $3.99) has a problem.
ScissorPuppy
06-10-07, 04:13 PM
The film was shot in 2.40:1, When released on dvd it had 3 versions.
A one disc Full Screen release. a one disc Widescreen release and a 2 disc Widescreen release. The problem is the widescreen was a cropped transfer loosing alot of the picture, the widescreen copies were at 1.78:1. Which is almost as bad as fullscreen in this case. After alot of excuses a few months later lionsgate quietly released the correct version for the 2 disc release.
At first they kept the same artwork with a black sticker near the left side bottom stating the new aspect ratio. Newer pressings have the correct ratio printed directly on the case.
I don't know if they ever released corrected versions for the one disc version.
gryffinmaster
06-10-07, 04:18 PM
Might be a regional or clearance thing. My Target has it for $9.44.
Maybe it was on sale last week? That's the way a lot of Target's $9.44 DVDs end up getting priced, and I know it was the week for $9.44's to be lower.
ScissorPuppy
06-10-07, 04:43 PM
That's possible, I bought it last night ( Sat. ) So as of today it could be off sale. But still at 9.44, it's a good deal.
speedy1961
06-11-07, 08:10 AM
I found one yesterday for $9.44.
basaro
06-11-07, 09:51 AM
I have been seeing these at most Target stores lately in the past few months since I had to go exchange my copy for the correct OAR. They are usually in one of the endcaps with a bunch of other sale dvds. I have only seen copies with the replacement sticker over the OAR, and I still am seeing lots of copies with the wrong OAR too, so be careful with that.
Rammsteinfan
06-11-07, 11:01 AM
Thought I would pick it up, even if it was $9. Target near me had 90% original versions and only 2 or 3 copies w/ the corrected sticker.
Manzana
06-13-07, 12:16 PM
ScissorPuppy, thanks for the explanation. I checked my Lord of War and sure enough it's the 1.78:1 version. I couldn't notice any edge cropping, but I assume others know what they're talking about. I don't suppose there are any comparison screenshots somewhere?
I can't think of any way to get the correct version without trading in the old one for a loss and paying another $7.50. Will LionsGate do anything through the mail? On the positive side my discs are in good shape with no stickers on them, so you'd never know they were from Blockbuster.
woemcats
06-13-07, 01:44 PM
I wound up buying the one-disc on sale at Circuit City for $7.50 and selling my two discer for about that on Amazon (minus fees, of course). I probably lost a few bucks (especially when you consider I probably paid $15 for the 2-disc when it came out but then never watched it because I was annoyed by the whole aspect ratio thing), but at least I have the right aspect ratio.
Hmmm, when I type it all out it seems really stupid.
gryffinmaster
07-02-07, 12:22 PM
Lord of War is included with the other $7.50 titles this week at Target. :up: Saw a few with the corrected aspect ratios during my brief trip there this afternoon.
Altimus Prime
07-02-07, 01:30 PM
I like Cage, despite some of his reported missteps recently, and wanted to see this movie and didn't.
I don't often do blind buys. Is this worth it?
ScissorPuppy
07-02-07, 02:15 PM
I feel it is cages best film in the past few years. He has made alot of misteps.
The trailers had this film looking like an action film, it's not.
I love this movie, some don't.
It's worth 7.50 no doubt.
Surfinhank
07-02-07, 03:45 PM
Saw it at the local Target here: it went from 13.78 to 9.44, and now it's officially 7.50.
Jah-Wren Ryel
07-03-07, 01:24 AM
Grabbed a copy myself at the Woburn, MA store for $7.50.
At least half the 2-discers on the shelf were labeled with the bad aspect ratio.
Deke Rivers
07-03-07, 12:21 PM
The film was shot in 2.40:1, When released on dvd it had 3 versions.
A one disc Full Screen release. a one disc Widescreen release and a 2 disc Widescreen release. The problem is the widescreen was a cropped transfer loosing alot of the picture, the widescreen copies were at 1.78:1. Which is almost as bad as fullscreen in this case. After alot of excuses a few months later lionsgate quietly released the correct version for the 2 disc release.
At first they kept the same artwork with a black sticker near the left side bottom stating the new aspect ratio. Newer pressings have the correct ratio printed directly on the case.
I don't know if they ever released corrected versions for the one disc version.
so the 2 disc special edition is the corrected one?
Reason i ask is I just picked it up for $3.50 used at LCA Digital Replay in the Chicago area...
clintilona
07-03-07, 01:52 PM
so the 2 disc special edition is the corrected one?
Reason i ask is I just picked it up for $3.50 used at LCA Digital Replay in the Chicago area...
It's the correct one if the bottom left corner of the back cover says 2:40:1 aspect ratio instead of 1:78:1. That was the way I told the difference when I bought mine at Target during lunch today. There wasn't a sticker on it or anything.
MGR
07-04-07, 03:25 AM
The film was shot in 2.40:1, When released on dvd it had 3 versions.
A one disc Full Screen release. a one disc Widescreen release and a 2 disc Widescreen release. The problem is the widescreen was a cropped transfer loosing alot of the picture, the widescreen copies were at 1.78:1. Which is almost as bad as fullscreen in this case. After alot of excuses a few months later lionsgate quietly released the correct version for the 2 disc release.
At first they kept the same artwork with a black sticker near the left side bottom stating the new aspect ratio. Newer pressings have the correct ratio printed directly on the case.
I don't know if they ever released corrected versions for the one disc version.
The Target store that I was in this evening had a $7.50 sale sign for it.
AND LOL, they had the complete selection of the various aspect ratio possibilities described by ScissorPuppy:
about 3 copies of the 1.78:1 printed cover,
and about 3 copies of the 2.40:1 printed cover,
and a couple copies of the cover with the 2.40:1 black sticker!
And the same UPC on all versions.
Really sucks that they didn't recall the 1.78:1 copies instead of selling them out to unsuspecting suckers, IMO.
DVD Polizei
07-04-07, 07:46 AM
ScissorPuppy, thanks for the explanation. I checked my Lord of War and sure enough it's the 1.78:1 version. I couldn't notice any edge cropping, but I assume others know what they're talking about. I don't suppose there are any comparison screenshots somewhere?
The reddish part is how much of the film was cut, just so it would fit your entire screen on a widescreen television. On a widescreen television, the 2.40:1 will have bars on the top and bottom.
If the director didn't use tight shots, you may not notice too much. But if he did, then it certainly will make a difference.
FWIW, I only saw the movie once, so I can't remember one way or another how the movie looked. I guess since I can't remember, it was ok to me at the time.
Kevin Phillips
07-04-07, 12:34 PM
I heard about the cropped widescreen, but didn't know about the corrected discs, so I have been avoiding the DVD.
After reading this thread, I stopped by Target today. I picked up the 2-disc widescreen. The box has the little black sticker in the corner with 2.40:1.
Thanks guys!
MTRodaba2468
07-05-07, 02:29 AM
Goddamn it. I wish there was a Target in my area. $7.50 for the 2-Disc Lord Of War is a steal.
Altimus Prime
07-05-07, 03:01 AM
I saw another big DVD display at Giant Eagle grocery stores. It has the single disc Lord of War, and all the copies were the wrong aspect ratio.
Jay G.
07-05-07, 09:09 AM
ScissorPuppy, thanks for the explanation. I checked my Lord of War and sure enough it's the 1.78:1 version. I couldn't notice any edge cropping, but I assume others know what they're talking about. I don't suppose there are any comparison screenshots somewhere?
CertifiedTHX created a comparison shot in the original thread about the aspect ratio issue:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=444535
I can't think of any way to get the correct version without trading in the old one for a loss and paying another $7.50. Will LionsGate do anything through the mail?
Lionsgate has refused to admit a mistake and exchange discs for people who have already bought the incorrect version. One thing you could do is buy the correct version, keep the receipt, swap out the discs and return the disc with the wrong aspect ratio to the store as "defective," which it really is.
Just a question: do you own the 1-disc or the 2-disc currently? Because Lionsgate only corrected the aspect ratio on the 2-disc set.
TheKing
07-06-07, 01:30 AM
Well, I went to my local Target and picked up a copy of the 2-Disc, one that said 2.40:1 on the back (No sticker, actually printed on the case). The problem is the disc inside is the 1.78:1 version.
So now I don't know what to do. The only other copy the store had said 1.78:1, and now I can't even know it's correct for sure until I get it home and put it on screen. What's really worrisome is that this particular disc was recorded on 3/22/07, meaning Lions Gate is producing NEW discs with the 1.78: 1 transfer on it.
If you bought this and haven't checked your disc, I suggest you do so, reading the case is not enough.
Manzana
07-06-07, 02:06 AM
Lionsgate has refused to admit a mistake and exchange discs for people who have already bought the incorrect version. One thing you could do is buy the correct version, keep the receipt, swap out the discs and return the disc with the wrong aspect ratio to the store as "defective," which it really is.
Just a question: do you own the 1-disc or the 2-disc currently? Because Lionsgate only corrected the aspect ratio on the 2-disc set.
Thanks for the suggestion. Given TheKing's comment above, I'm afraid if I do make to to a Target with a 2.40:1 2-DVD edition for $7.50 that it might be the 1.78:1 one instead.
I currently have the 2-DVD edition. It is tempting to do what you suggested, but I know long ago when I tried something like this, when I returned the opened defective DVD I was given another of the same item and the employee opened it on the spot (he said it's our policy to do this) so that I couldn't bring it back later as a normal return. Unfortunately I don't remember which store it was. I ended up trading it in as used for a loss (I'm used to taking losses on just about everything).
So when I bring it back as defective, unless I hide all the other copies in the store first, how do I convince them I want a refund rather than a defective exchange? I'm not sure which store would be the best choice to try this (Walmart, Target, or Best Buy) if I decide it's worth the risk of buying a 2.40:1 labeled copy only to find out it's still 1.78:1.
Jah-Wren Ryel
07-06-07, 03:35 AM
Make the guy not only open it right there in the store, but put it in a player and verify if the replacement is defective too. If it is, ask him to get another copy and keep repeating the process until either he's figured out that they are all defective or that it would be easier to give you a refund and leave some of the store's stock unmolested and still on the shelf.
FWIW, I just checked mine - it came with the 2.40:1 sticker on it, and it was indeed 2.40:1.
shyguy1083
07-06-07, 03:53 AM
Make the guy not only open it right there in the store, but put it in a player and verify if the replacement is defective too. If it is, ask him to get another copy and keep repeating the process until either he's figured out that they are all defective or that it would be easier to give you a refund and leave some of the store's stock unmolested and still on the shelf.
won't the worker or manager just claim that the dvds are NOT defective and refuse to return the disc? unless they are dvd collectors and/or avid film fans, they might not comprehend what the big deal is. sadly, they might not even realize the difference between the 1.78:1 and 2.40:1 if you put the disc on a television and try to show them the defect. just assuming, of course...
how much would a place like FYE give for a 2-disc of a movie? i'm assuming around $5? maybe more? might be the easiest way. sell the defective version and lose a few bucks but get the right disc. in principle, it'd be nice to get the correct version without having to pay anything/waste time exchanging over and over, but i get the impression that most stores don't really care about these kinds of things, which makes it even more annoying the lionsgate isn't acknowledging their mistake. you'd think they would be trying to help the people who are actually purchasing their discs and not just dLing the film online.
Jah-Wren Ryel
07-06-07, 04:03 AM
won't the worker or manager just claim that the dvds are NOT defective and refuse to return the disc? unless they are dvd collectors and/or avid film fans, they might not comprehend what the big deal is. sadly, they might not even realize the difference between the 1.78:1 and 2.40:1 if you put the disc on a television and try to show them the defect. just assuming, of course...
Well, there must be a hundred different websites explaining the difference - print one out - like the image earlier in this thread - and take it with you.
DeepSleep
07-06-07, 12:20 PM
It looks like there are 3 different versions of the 2 disc package:
1) First printing: 1.78:1 aspect ratio printed on package. 1.78:1 DVD inside package.
2) Second printing: 1.78:1 aspect ratio printed on package, with a 2.40:1 aspect ratio sticker placed over it. 2.40:1 DVD inside package.
3) Third and current printing: 2.40:1 aspect ratio printed on package. 1.78:1 DVD inside package.
You want to avoid buying 1) and 3).
Look for 2) and buy it.
I bought 2) and indeed the disk inside was a 2.40:1
scott1598
07-06-07, 03:03 PM
so just to re-iterate...
the one with the little black sticker over the aspect ratio on the case has the corrected disc inside?
TheKing
07-06-07, 06:13 PM
Went to another Target today, and I was able to exchange the "defective" disc I bought last night for a new set with the sticker on the back. Just got home and checked, and sure enough, this one is 2.40:1.
The sticker sets are old stock, if you are lucky enough to find one, it's going to be good. These new sets with the printed 2.40:1 on the back could be from this new batch. I'm not going to say all the non-sticker sets are screwed up, but don't take the chance if you can get a sticker.
cardsfan111
07-06-07, 06:18 PM
It looks like there are 3 different versions of the 2 disc package:
1) First printing: 1.78:1 aspect ratio printed on package. 1.78:1 DVD inside package.
2) Second printing: 1.78:1 aspect ratio printed on package, with a 2.40:1 aspect ratio sticker placed over it. 2.40:1 DVD inside package.
3) Third and current printing: 2.40:1 aspect ratio printed on package. 1.78:1 DVD inside package.
You want to avoid buying 1) and 3).
Look for 2) and buy it.
I bought 2) and indeed the disk inside was a 2.40:1
Just checked out the display in a Target near me. The first three on the rack had the sticker, the last 2 didn't. What a mess!
mnementh
07-07-07, 01:45 AM
Has anyone found a copy with 2.40:1 printed on the case with the correct disc inside?
DVD Polizei
07-07-07, 02:35 AM
Yeah, right. Movie companies won't spend that much money to correct the problem. That would require re-printing the jackets. Just a little patchy thingie is all we gonna git, bro.
WillDLeeEsq
07-12-07, 02:22 PM
Thanks for the info, guys. I just bought the 2-disc version from Target only to see it had the 1:78:1 ratio. I guess I'll have to exchange it for the stickered version now. If I can find it, that is.
njwiv
07-12-07, 02:49 PM
Has anyone found a copy with 2.40:1 printed on the case with the correct disc inside?
Mine was 2.40:1 and had the correct ratio printed directly on the cover.
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