Van Halen - Summer Tour !?!?
03-09-04, 12:30 PM
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Van Halen - Sumer Tour !?!?
03-09-04, 01:01 PM
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Now if only WB would continue with the remasters, this would be a GREAT summer..
03-09-04, 04:47 PM
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Re: Spot the common factor....
Originally posted by benedict
Deep Purple
Iron Maiden
Rush
etc. etc.
Deep Purple
Iron Maiden
Rush
etc. etc.
03-09-04, 05:00 PM
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Re: Re: Spot the common factor....
Originally posted by Lateralus
WHOA! Don't put Rush with Deep Purple and Van Halen, Rush isn't on a renunion tour!
WHOA! Don't put Rush with Deep Purple and Van Halen, Rush isn't on a renunion tour!
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I think this is great news. I went to the last tour they did with Sammy and it was a great concert. I also went to the one afterwards, not so good. I went to see David Lee Roth on his last tour, he just doesn't have it anymore. I think they made the best choice by going with Sammy again. Looking forward to seeing them this summer.
03-09-04, 05:40 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Spot the common factor....
Originally posted by benedict
Different common factor
Different common factor
03-09-04, 06:15 PM
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I love it when bands break up, then trash talk the other members, then proceed to watch their record sales tank, then realize that maybe the other guy wasn't such a jerk after all. Doesn't anyone besides me know how to hold a grudge anymore?
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riding greatest hits?
Its for real. There will be three new songs on the Best of Volume II.
They are playing tons of VH on the radio and running spots sayt
"Van Halen tour dates coming soon.............."
I am sick of the dave / sammy thing. They were different and bot great. I have seen every LA VH show including their first
I have seen this band over 25 time. I saw sam and daved tour also. They are just different. David is no longer the long haired high note hitting guy so I am fine with sammy. I would be fine with dave also. Just bring Eddie back!!!!!!
Best news in a long time!!
Its for real. There will be three new songs on the Best of Volume II.
They are playing tons of VH on the radio and running spots sayt
"Van Halen tour dates coming soon.............."
I am sick of the dave / sammy thing. They were different and bot great. I have seen every LA VH show including their first
I have seen this band over 25 time. I saw sam and daved tour also. They are just different. David is no longer the long haired high note hitting guy so I am fine with sammy. I would be fine with dave also. Just bring Eddie back!!!!!!
Best news in a long time!!
03-09-04, 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by Cyberock
I went to see David Lee Roth on his last tour, he just doesn't have it anymore.
I went to see David Lee Roth on his last tour, he just doesn't have it anymore.
03-10-04, 10:13 AM
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I don't mind bands changing singers (AC/DC pulled it off), but Van Halen RADICALLY changed their sound after Sammy joined. They went completely wimpy with all the keyboards and ballads. To the rockers in the world, it was a big lose-lose situation, as VH was a thousand times better before Sammy (no keyboards and not too many wimpy ballads), and Sammy was a thousand times more rockin' before joining VH.
03-10-04, 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by nodeerforamonth
I VH was a thousand times better before Sammy (no keyboards and not too many wimpy ballads)
I VH was a thousand times better before Sammy (no keyboards and not too many wimpy ballads)
03-10-04, 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by TheMadMonk
I'm not the biggest VH fan, buy I know that "Jump" and "I'll Wait" both are very keyboard heavy, and are from the "Dave" years.
I'm not the biggest VH fan, buy I know that "Jump" and "I'll Wait" both are very keyboard heavy, and are from the "Dave" years.
I was hoping that since Sammy was a "rocker" that he would bring back VH to their greatness, but they became even more wimpy.
03-10-04, 12:58 PM
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nodeerforamonth looking through your latest post what you seem to be saying is that Van Halen were in decline and that a new singer did not halt that decline in your eyes. I don't think that supports the contention that without Roth they aren't Van Halen.
I've read similar arguments about, say, Black Sabbath when Ronnie James Dio joined. OK, so they faded into near obscurity not many years after his departure but I still rate Heaven & Hell and Mob Rules higher than the final two Ozzy albums, Never Say Die and Technical Ecstasy.
My view is that although one can hark back to "classic" X or "true" Y that is more to do with time and chemistry: there is nothing to guarantee that putting together the original line-up would recreate those earlier times or that earlier chemistry.
And, looking at a band like Iron Maiden for example, what most people now would call the "classic" line up doesn't include the original singer with whom they recorded a couple of spectacular albums. For my part, I would never argue that bringing back Paul DiAnno would make for a better band but I do smile when some younger fans talked about the "original" band during the Bayley years.
I've read similar arguments about, say, Black Sabbath when Ronnie James Dio joined. OK, so they faded into near obscurity not many years after his departure but I still rate Heaven & Hell and Mob Rules higher than the final two Ozzy albums, Never Say Die and Technical Ecstasy.
My view is that although one can hark back to "classic" X or "true" Y that is more to do with time and chemistry: there is nothing to guarantee that putting together the original line-up would recreate those earlier times or that earlier chemistry.
And, looking at a band like Iron Maiden for example, what most people now would call the "classic" line up doesn't include the original singer with whom they recorded a couple of spectacular albums. For my part, I would never argue that bringing back Paul DiAnno would make for a better band but I do smile when some younger fans talked about the "original" band during the Bayley years.
03-10-04, 01:43 PM
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5150 was the most synth heavy album...but it was still a great album.
After that they really were not that synth heavy...OU812 only had two synth tracks, Mine All Mine (great song), and Feels So Good.
Yeah the Sammy era did have a lot of ballads, but if you look around the rock world at the time that was the scene...every rock band was doing the power ballad thing in the mid to late 80s.
The band put out some solid stuff during those years, even if it wasn't the party rock that Dave era produced.
After that they really were not that synth heavy...OU812 only had two synth tracks, Mine All Mine (great song), and Feels So Good.
Yeah the Sammy era did have a lot of ballads, but if you look around the rock world at the time that was the scene...every rock band was doing the power ballad thing in the mid to late 80s.
The band put out some solid stuff during those years, even if it wasn't the party rock that Dave era produced.
03-11-04, 07:27 AM
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Originally posted by benedict
And, looking at a band like Iron Maiden for example, what most people now would call the "classic" line up doesn't include the original singer with whom they recorded a couple of spectacular albums. For my part, I would never argue that bringing back Paul DiAnno would make for a better band but I do smile when some younger fans talked about the "original" band during the Bayley years.
And, looking at a band like Iron Maiden for example, what most people now would call the "classic" line up doesn't include the original singer with whom they recorded a couple of spectacular albums. For my part, I would never argue that bringing back Paul DiAnno would make for a better band but I do smile when some younger fans talked about the "original" band during the Bayley years.
As far as VH...I have seen both lineups and I really dig the original, not the Hagar version (which I had seen a few times but....). Maybe it was the later VH songs (many songs of which I did not really like), also a couple of Hagar tunes on the set lists that turned me off at the concerts.
However many people loved the Hagar lineup and they will do fine...it's not a bad band by any means....just not what I really enjoyed from my past experience...and I will most likely pass on this show but I would love to see EVH play...tough call.
03-11-04, 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by benedict
nodeerforamonth looking through your latest post what you seem to be saying is that Van Halen were in decline and that a new singer did not halt that decline in your eyes. I don't think that supports the contention that without Roth they aren't Van Halen.
I've read similar arguments about, say, Black Sabbath when Ronnie James Dio joined. OK, so they faded into near obscurity not many years after his departure but I still rate Heaven & Hell and Mob Rules higher than the final two Ozzy albums, Never Say Die and Technical Ecstasy.
My view is that although one can hark back to "classic" X or "true" Y that is more to do with time and chemistry: there is nothing to guarantee that putting together the original line-up would recreate those earlier times or that earlier chemistry.
nodeerforamonth looking through your latest post what you seem to be saying is that Van Halen were in decline and that a new singer did not halt that decline in your eyes. I don't think that supports the contention that without Roth they aren't Van Halen.
I've read similar arguments about, say, Black Sabbath when Ronnie James Dio joined. OK, so they faded into near obscurity not many years after his departure but I still rate Heaven & Hell and Mob Rules higher than the final two Ozzy albums, Never Say Die and Technical Ecstasy.
My view is that although one can hark back to "classic" X or "true" Y that is more to do with time and chemistry: there is nothing to guarantee that putting together the original line-up would recreate those earlier times or that earlier chemistry.
Black Sabbath certainly rebounded from their downward spiral when Dio joined.
VH failed with Hagar because they went even wimpier with more keyboards and more ballads. They had potential to be one of the most rockin' bands ever.