Smallville "Phoenix" 10/8/03
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Smallville "Phoenix" 10/8/03
"Phoenix", Episode #302.
(biggie spoilers possibly in episode guide)
Looks like a real must see for this week.
And sorry, but who does the theme song again?
(biggie spoilers possibly in episode guide)
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And sorry, but who does the theme song again?
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I liked it. Rutger Hauer was good. Both Luthor's were back in top form.
I always thought Lana was sexy, but damn she can kick some ass!
I loved hearing Dido at the end of the show - great voice.
I always thought Lana was sexy, but damn she can kick some ass!
I loved hearing Dido at the end of the show - great voice.
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I loved it. All I want is an interesting, exciting show that is fun to watch. Smallville does it better for me than any other show. Smallville is for TV like Star Wars, LOTR, and The Matrix is for the movies. It's an event. Every week I watch the scenes for next week and I can't wait for the show.
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This was a bit of darker episode than I was expecting, with more plot twists that will obviously play out much later on. I thought one of the most interesting parts of this episode was when Clark
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Nice conclusion to the two parter. That fight between Johnathan and Clark at the beginning was great! The show needs more of that; I want supervillains, not kryptonite freaks.
Overall, I still find the show is sloppy. Of course its always been sloppy.
Maybe I'm being picky, but they just gloss over some pretty big things:
Lana killed that thug in the Kent barn. How do they explain this to the authorities? How does Lionel not piece this together? What did the Kents tell Lana? I'm guessing she would ask them why thugs were in their barn holding them hostage while driving off with Clark. Shouldn't Lana be a bit upset about killing someone? That's the first time she's killed someone as far as I know.
Any bets on when Rutger Hauer and Lex's wife show up again?
Overall, I still find the show is sloppy. Of course its always been sloppy.
Maybe I'm being picky, but they just gloss over some pretty big things:
Lana killed that thug in the Kent barn. How do they explain this to the authorities? How does Lionel not piece this together? What did the Kents tell Lana? I'm guessing she would ask them why thugs were in their barn holding them hostage while driving off with Clark. Shouldn't Lana be a bit upset about killing someone? That's the first time she's killed someone as far as I know.
Any bets on when Rutger Hauer and Lex's wife show up again?
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both will show up again.
it is pretty weird of them to gloss over how they explain the situation to lana.
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Didn't like it.
Jonathan/Clark's fight was alright, but I didn't care for the Helen back-n-forths and I didn't care for the reappearance of KungFu Lana [who dramatically rode off into the sunset after yet another "I don't know if I can do this" angst-filled ending]. Blah.
Rutger was good, and Emmanuelle was hot as always..
But this episode was just blah..
Jonathan/Clark's fight was alright, but I didn't care for the Helen back-n-forths and I didn't care for the reappearance of KungFu Lana [who dramatically rode off into the sunset after yet another "I don't know if I can do this" angst-filled ending]. Blah.
Rutger was good, and Emmanuelle was hot as always..
But this episode was just blah..
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Thought the episode was pretty weak.
Clark/Pa Kent duel should have been longer and utilized various powers between the two.(Heat Vision would have been cool)
Thought that Lana should have been more traumatized from killing the goon in the barn.
Worst Line in the episode: Spoken by Chloe
"Clark has more issues than Rollingstone Magazine."
Clark/Pa Kent duel should have been longer and utilized various powers between the two.(Heat Vision would have been cool)
Thought that Lana should have been more traumatized from killing the goon in the barn.
Worst Line in the episode: Spoken by Chloe
"Clark has more issues than Rollingstone Magazine."
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Some of you are looking for plausible explanations for a show that is completely implausible to begin with. Or you've just become jaded and cynical.
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Originally posted by candyrocket786
Worst Line in the episode: Spoken by Chloe
"Clark has more issues than Rollingstone Magazine."
Worst Line in the episode: Spoken by Chloe
"Clark has more issues than Rollingstone Magazine."
I liked this episode, but I wouldn't even want to begin to try and explain the weird things that happen around Smallville. Everybody (including myself) finds fault in a show because it isn't realistic. But honestly how long would a show last if it only mimicked real life. With that being said; I thought it was quite convenient how everybody who saw Clark using Kryptonite on himself died. But I think it will all come back.
Oh and by the way Lex's wife is HOT!!
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Worst Line in the episode: Spoken by Chloe
"They eat babies. Yeah, but only their heads."
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I can handle the police staying out of it.. hey, Clark can get rid of bodies pretty easily I suppose.
But don't have Lana kill someone if you are just going to pretend it didn't happen in her next scene.
Now that I'm thinking about the episode again though, another thing; Clark: "I called the Police and told them where the stolen money was"
WHHHAAAT?? Can I rob a few banks, call up the police a few months later and tell them where the money is, and then be ok? That's a pretty piss poor conclusion. I'm sure he spent a helluva lot of that money too. Hell he gave away a freakin sports car the first five minutes of the last episode. Did you tell the police about that, Clark?
I like the show, I really do, but there are just these tiny things in every episode that get to me. I blame Babylon 5. It spoiled me.
But don't have Lana kill someone if you are just going to pretend it didn't happen in her next scene.
Now that I'm thinking about the episode again though, another thing; Clark: "I called the Police and told them where the stolen money was"
WHHHAAAT?? Can I rob a few banks, call up the police a few months later and tell them where the money is, and then be ok? That's a pretty piss poor conclusion. I'm sure he spent a helluva lot of that money too. Hell he gave away a freakin sports car the first five minutes of the last episode. Did you tell the police about that, Clark?
I like the show, I really do, but there are just these tiny things in every episode that get to me. I blame Babylon 5. It spoiled me.
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Well, I don't deny that they should just throw things by the wayside the way they do sometimes. But the show is just so entertaining.
Well, if you remember Clark was never identified as the bank robber, and I think we can surmize that he didn't tell them who he was. Only where the money way. At least that's the way I thought about it.
WHHHAAAT?? Can I rob a few banks, call up the police a few months later and tell them where the money is, and then be ok?
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While they packed a whole lot of stuff in this episode, it didn't seem all that rushed or congested.
And as always, it seems, any bad person who stumbled on to Clark's secret gets put out the pasture, or in this case, put out to sea (though I doubt Edge died, and will probably return later, to cause the Kents even more grief).
Lex finally resolved his marital woes in the inimitable Luthor fashion. Too bad, I'll miss Helen.
Irony of ironies, Lex gets in good with the Kents, while accepting guidance willingly from his father. This should be the source of even more moral quandaries for Lex (internal battle of doing the right thing, or the profitable thing).
Dug the use of Dido's "White Flag" at the end of the episode where Clark spurns Lana, who is finally ready to commit to Clark, and Clark to so afraid of losing control of himself that he won't allow himself to let Lana in because he's wary of hurting the ones he loves the most.
And as always, it seems, any bad person who stumbled on to Clark's secret gets put out the pasture, or in this case, put out to sea (though I doubt Edge died, and will probably return later, to cause the Kents even more grief).
Lex finally resolved his marital woes in the inimitable Luthor fashion. Too bad, I'll miss Helen.
Irony of ironies, Lex gets in good with the Kents, while accepting guidance willingly from his father. This should be the source of even more moral quandaries for Lex (internal battle of doing the right thing, or the profitable thing).
Dug the use of Dido's "White Flag" at the end of the episode where Clark spurns Lana, who is finally ready to commit to Clark, and Clark to so afraid of losing control of himself that he won't allow himself to let Lana in because he's wary of hurting the ones he loves the most.
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These two episodes answered alot of questions from last season and it worked out well. It's off to a good start. However - I think, a three parters would've been better so it wouldn't feel too compact. It's strange how Pete's only got one scene in these episode.
I agreed that Edge and Lex's wife will come back later in the season to cause headaches to the Kents and Lex. I think, Clark is starting to realize that he won't be able to fully be open with Lana and have a "real" relationship her until he completely share his secret. It's kind of like Peter Parker in Spiderman, at the end of the movie - where he is aware of his powers and responsibilties that comes with it.
Next week episode looks interesting... It looks like Lex's brother is back in town testing out Kryptonite bullets against Clark. It seems like the Luthor's are going to test out the Clark's powers this season. Time will tell.
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I agreed that Edge and Lex's wife will come back later in the season to cause headaches to the Kents and Lex. I think, Clark is starting to realize that he won't be able to fully be open with Lana and have a "real" relationship her until he completely share his secret. It's kind of like Peter Parker in Spiderman, at the end of the movie - where he is aware of his powers and responsibilties that comes with it.
Next week episode looks interesting... It looks like Lex's brother is back in town testing out Kryptonite bullets against Clark. It seems like the Luthor's are going to test out the Clark's powers this season. Time will tell.
-bruce
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Well, I don't deny that they should just throw things by the wayside the way they do sometimes. But the show is just so entertaining.
Well, I don't deny that they should just throw things by the wayside the way they do sometimes. But the show is just so entertaining.
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Originally posted by Astro
Lana killed that thug in the Kent barn. How do they explain this to the authorities? How does Lionel not piece this together? What did the Kents tell Lana? I'm guessing she would ask them why thugs were in their barn holding them hostage while driving off with Clark. Shouldn't Lana be a bit upset about killing someone? That's the first time she's killed someone as far as I know.
Lana killed that thug in the Kent barn. How do they explain this to the authorities? How does Lionel not piece this together? What did the Kents tell Lana? I'm guessing she would ask them why thugs were in their barn holding them hostage while driving off with Clark. Shouldn't Lana be a bit upset about killing someone? That's the first time she's killed someone as far as I know.
The paragraph above, Chloe's HORRIBLE "issues" line, the Melrose Place stuff with Mrs. Lex, it was all bad. They wasted so much screen time on Helen last season, it seems silly that this year she says "oh yeah, I actually was evil last season". Pretty weak. And why did Clark come back home after the fight with Pa Kent? It's not like the ring itself was making him stay in Metropolis.
The only positive was the addition of yet ANOTHER male relationship drenched in homoeroticism - Edge and Pa Luther.
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when the ring broke, the scar disappeared. it looked like they were connected somehow and the scar was influencing him as well. with the scar gone he decided to come home. also, the sight of his father on the ground probably helped
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What about Clark's first encounter with Edge in the episode, where he rips the car door off and threatens him? Did he take something away from his experience with the red kryponite?
Really dumb: Clark using the green kryponite in front of the the thugs. Couldn't he think of something better to do?
Really dumb: Clark using the green kryponite in front of the the thugs. Couldn't he think of something better to do?
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Evidently not, since the thugs had each parent away from one another, and Clark isn't about to risk losing either parent if he could do something to satiate them at the time.