Xbox Series X - 11/10/20
#251
re: Xbox Series X - 11/10/20
Wow, it's going to cost 25 bucks a month just to connect to xbox live now - that is absolutely insane and I'm definitely not paying for that. I can't believe this will be the first time in years I don't buy a new console.
"Oh but you get access to all the games on game pass" yeah - all of those games are garbage too.
Someone please correct if I'm wrong in what I'm saying because I sure hope I am, if not.......what the hell are they thinking??
"Oh but you get access to all the games on game pass" yeah - all of those games are garbage too.
Someone please correct if I'm wrong in what I'm saying because I sure hope I am, if not.......what the hell are they thinking??
The Series S costs $299 upfront, or just like they do with new cellphones now, you can instead pay 24.99 a month for two years. That will purchase the Xbox Series S system and give you game pass every month.
The Series X costs $499 upfront, or just like they do with new cellphones now, you can instead pay 34.99 a month for two years. That will purchase the Xbox Series X system and give you game pass every month.
If you buy the system outright, at current rates Game Pass + Live Gold is $14.99 a month, Live Gold alone is 9.99 a month. I think. They haven't been specific about the price point for online yet. For all we know, next gen may be Game Pass only? But the price points for the systems I listed are accurate according to the announcements.
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#253
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Whew, thanks guys but charging almost double (if in fact the price for gold is going to 9.99 a month) is still inexcusable. 14.99 a month will make me jump ship as well - I can afford all of this easily but that's not the point.
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You don't have to buy it monthly. You can still buy 6 months at a time for $40 from MS now (~$6.66 a month) and less through resellers. (CDKeys had 12 months for $30 a few weeks ago.)
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Is it a jab? He is simply pointing out a fact. That might sway someone from not buying it to buying it.
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#257
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re: Xbox Series X - 11/10/20
The Series X is a bit more than I expected. $200 more for a slightly beefed up console with a disc drive seems like a big jump to me.
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In a way that seems kind of dumb then, because the One X has done 4K gaming for while already. So the Series S is a weird in between that can play the new games, but can’t take full advantage of the new gen technology anyways. So on the surface the price is appealing, but only if you desperately want to play some of the new games. Most of which aren’t exclusive anyways.
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It's not for me, but I can see that being massively appealing for a pretty significant number of people.
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Xbox really needs to get better at naming consoles. PlayStation has done it best, 5 times in a row.
#264
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As someone who hasn't owned an Xbox since the 360 that $35 a month for the console and game pass is hella tempting.
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re: Xbox Series X - 11/10/20
The S only has a 512GB hard drive as well. I'm actually pretty disappointed in 1TB on the X, but I guess you can't have everything at that price point.
I still have a 1080P Panny Plasma as my main TV. I'm waiting to see what TVs come out this year. I want OLED, but damn do those prices get obscene quick. If I decide to wait for a TV, it seems like the Series S would be more than enough for my TV. I feel like that system is for people like me and others who don't want to upgrade to 4K for a while. Also, it would make a good second system for secondary TVs. I've always liked Xbox for the media playing abilities as well.
I still have a 1080P Panny Plasma as my main TV. I'm waiting to see what TVs come out this year. I want OLED, but damn do those prices get obscene quick. If I decide to wait for a TV, it seems like the Series S would be more than enough for my TV. I feel like that system is for people like me and others who don't want to upgrade to 4K for a while. Also, it would make a good second system for secondary TVs. I've always liked Xbox for the media playing abilities as well.
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re: Xbox Series X - 11/10/20
Yeah, I think MS has a reasonable marketing strategy.
So many people, especially the 'kids' (a demographic I'm betting most of us don't fit it into) are fully onboard with both digital-only and 'software as a service'. I expect the monthly plan thing, or at least GPU, to be pretty attractive.
I personally default toward wanting a disk drive, but full disclosure, I also don't recall when I last bought a used game, and recently I avoided playing a game because it would require getting off the couch to switch disks.
They'd probably prefer the S sells more, that gets people more embedded in the GP environment.
I have an X and love it but if I didn't upgrade my One to X a couple years ago, would I really be missing out that much? Maybe not.
I think for a large part of the market, the combo of "Netflix for games" that is GP, the reasonable monthly price, and the upcoming Cloud gaming (or whatever it's called) are much more important than a disk drive and 4k.
Still curious how they came up with that shape for the X.
GP doesn't have everything, but if I were just now (or in the near future) buying a console, I would definitely find enough to keep me going for quite a while there. Last I counted there were at least 210-220 games on it.
So many people, especially the 'kids' (a demographic I'm betting most of us don't fit it into) are fully onboard with both digital-only and 'software as a service'. I expect the monthly plan thing, or at least GPU, to be pretty attractive.
I personally default toward wanting a disk drive, but full disclosure, I also don't recall when I last bought a used game, and recently I avoided playing a game because it would require getting off the couch to switch disks.
They'd probably prefer the S sells more, that gets people more embedded in the GP environment.
I have an X and love it but if I didn't upgrade my One to X a couple years ago, would I really be missing out that much? Maybe not.
I think for a large part of the market, the combo of "Netflix for games" that is GP, the reasonable monthly price, and the upcoming Cloud gaming (or whatever it's called) are much more important than a disk drive and 4k.
Still curious how they came up with that shape for the X.
GP doesn't have everything, but if I were just now (or in the near future) buying a console, I would definitely find enough to keep me going for quite a while there. Last I counted there were at least 210-220 games on it.
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re: Xbox Series X - 11/10/20
Yeah, I think MS has a reasonable marketing strategy.
So many people, especially the 'kids' (a demographic I'm betting most of us don't fit it into) are fully onboard with both digital-only and 'software as a service'. I expect the monthly plan thing, or at least GPU, to be pretty attractive.
I personally default toward wanting a disk drive, but full disclosure, I also don't recall when I last bought a used game, and recently I avoided playing a game because it would require getting off the couch to switch disks.
They'd probably prefer the S sells more, that gets people more embedded in the GP environment.
I have an X and love it but if I didn't upgrade my One to X a couple years ago, would I really be missing out that much? Maybe not.
I think for a large part of the market, the combo of "Netflix for games" that is GP, the reasonable monthly price, and the upcoming Cloud gaming (or whatever it's called) are much more important than a disk drive and 4k.
Still curious how they came up with that shape for the X.
GP doesn't have everything, but if I were just now (or in the near future) buying a console, I would definitely find enough to keep me going for quite a while there. Last I counted there were at least 210-220 games on it.
So many people, especially the 'kids' (a demographic I'm betting most of us don't fit it into) are fully onboard with both digital-only and 'software as a service'. I expect the monthly plan thing, or at least GPU, to be pretty attractive.
I personally default toward wanting a disk drive, but full disclosure, I also don't recall when I last bought a used game, and recently I avoided playing a game because it would require getting off the couch to switch disks.
They'd probably prefer the S sells more, that gets people more embedded in the GP environment.
I have an X and love it but if I didn't upgrade my One to X a couple years ago, would I really be missing out that much? Maybe not.
I think for a large part of the market, the combo of "Netflix for games" that is GP, the reasonable monthly price, and the upcoming Cloud gaming (or whatever it's called) are much more important than a disk drive and 4k.
Still curious how they came up with that shape for the X.
GP doesn't have everything, but if I were just now (or in the near future) buying a console, I would definitely find enough to keep me going for quite a while there. Last I counted there were at least 210-220 games on it.
#270
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re: Xbox Series X - 11/10/20
If GP had enough to keep you busy, I don't understand why you wouldn't just stick with the current gen, unless you skipped this gen or something? I guess the monthly plan (for console plus GP) would be attractive especially during the economic turmoil we're going through.
So good point - the S or X may not really offer an attractive upgrade path for current One owners. But "it's only $25/month" is a powerful argument (this crazy year notwithstanding).
Now if MS offered some sort of trade-in program...
#271
re: Xbox Series X - 11/10/20
I'm curious (as others are) about how the monthly plan will work when I have months of Game Pass already paid for. Assuming it would just tack on to the tail end of my subscription. Paying up front is fine too, but the plan is a really smart idea on their part.
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@majornelson: This table shows the similarities & differences in Xbox Series X and Series S hardware. #PowerYourDreams https://t.co/l3KoLjON0V
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^^ $600 Canadian dollaridoos! My goodness.
It makes sense with the conversion rate, but still. I feel for my friends up North, but then I remember they don't have to deal with {REDACTED}.
It makes sense with the conversion rate, but still. I feel for my friends up North, but then I remember they don't have to deal with {REDACTED}.