Mark Shepherd

Hello everyone,

I bought a used Sega Genesis (Model II) on ebay. And it works. I played a game on it. It came with two controllers. One was a regular standard genesis controller. And another one was like a Turbo controller with six buttons.

The standard genesis controller is the only one that works. The turbo controller won't. Unless it put the switch all the way to fast (turbo) then it starts going nutts and automatically selecting stuff without me pushing buttons.

I am wondering if there is an issue with the controller or the Sega Genesis? The Sega Genesis says made in Taiwan. I thought maybe this was a illegitimate console. But I opened up the system and the metal plate covering the motherboard is full of spots of rust. And on another forum, AtariAge forum they said that Sega Genesis model II were made practically everywhere, from Japan, to China, and yes even Taiwan.

The Genesis I have feels kind of cheap. The plastic feels cheap. I remember playing the Sega Genesis when I was a kid and I don't remember it feeling like it was made out of cheap plastic. I always remember the Sega Genesis feeling and looking really strong and durable.

So anyone have any thoughts? Do I keep buying Model II's and trying out the controller in different machines? What's funny is that the only thing that looks and feels durable about this set up I bought on ebay is the Controller that doesn't work. It actually looks like it is made out of better plastic and it says, "Made in China." The controller and system that says Made in Taiwan feels flimsy and cheap in comparison.

Thanks

Breakfast with Girls

I assume you've swapped controller ports to see if the port is the issue.

These controllers are old. Sometimes the connections break or decay. If one controller is working and the other isn't, it's probably the controller.

Mark Shepherd

Yeah I tried the bad controller in the second port. That wouldn't work at all. Thanks for your help.

Michael Corvin

I have no advice for you, but welcome to the forum.

Noonan

Sounds like the controller is sticking. If you're able, I'd try to take it apart and clean out the inside. Buttons are registering as being pressed when they're not.

mattysemo247

If you are experiencing the same issue in both ports, that sounds like a controller issue. But that also doesn't mean that the system isn't a fake either.

Mike86

Not saying it couldn’t be a fake but the Genesis isn’t exactly uncommon and I wouldn’t think there are that many fakes out there. When you’re into retro the bigger thing to be wary of is the games.

Mark Shepherd

Mike, Matty, Noonan. Thanks a bunch! A lot to process there. The reason I thought it might be a fake is because I hear that a lot of the reproduction black market games are being made in Taiwan. I know that's where they are making tons of Pokemon games that are fake.

I'll try that with the controller. Whenever something is small like that and I take it apart I usually break it! But hey if it is already broke then what's the harm. I know the Sega Genesis I have the power button sticks in half the time I press it. I hate that.

Also the plastic cover to me looks practically brand new. But it was supposedly used when I bought it on ebay. When I opened it up the metal plate covering the mother board definitely has spots of rust all over it. So it is not new. I also saw something online that if the metal plate covers the entire motherboard (where you see the air holes in the back) then it is a bad Sega Genesis. And if it only covers it up partially then it is a good Genesis.

But I hear that Sega Genesis are really common. So I don't know why they would make reproduction ones. Maybe this is why Sega went out of business. Maybe their production standards starting going low, almost to the point of what they were making started looking like repos. Anyway thanks everyone. I'll just be on the look out for a Sega Genesis model II that doesn't look so cheap.

Mike86

Yeah, games are a different story. There’s so much there that bootleggers try to pull fast ones on collectors with. Anything from reproducing labels and sticking them on common cartridges to make it look like a rare game to repro boards people try and pass off as the real deal and still try and charge top dollar for. Sometimes just slapping a reproduction label on a cartridge with a damaged label too (which can diminish the value of some rarer games). I’ve heard about those kinds of things more with NES and SNES games but I don’t doubt there are some rare Genesis games that have been faked.

DVDTalker76

I wouldn't worry that the console is a fake. As has already been touched on, Sega had production in Japan, China, Taiwan, and Malaysia. The varying quality of controllers is very obvious when you have them all in hand, yet each is official. When you've seen a selection of everything it's quite clear Sega were more concerned with profits than quality control.

The Model 2 itself, given that it was a cost-cutting measure vs. the bigger original model, doesn't surprise me at all in having noticeably cheap plastics, etc. And there are a huge number of Model 2 revisions, varying in quality in a number of ways. If you want something that feels more substantial I'd look for a nice M1 or check out more 2's. But maybe start trolling yard sales and retro stores rather than continuing to roll the dice on eBay.

There's info online on the different versions of the console if you search. They even affect the quality of video and sound output, and - again - this is all within officially produced consoles. Sad, but good ones can be found if wanted.

Mark Shepherd

That is well said. Definitely true. Ebay is nothing but a roll of the dice. I have had some luck and usually when I get lucky I am duped into thinking that I am always going to get the same luck. Then I get a clunker.

Thanks. I have really been trolling every place that I can troll. (Please don't think that I mean here!). I guess my last question would be if this is a fake Sega Genesis but it works when playing games, could it harm or damage a game that I put in it, like in the long run.

Mark Shepherd

Wtsang if there is one positive out of this then it is that I am glad that I wasn't a Sega Fanboy when I was a little kid. I can handle disappointment a lot better now being much older.

DVDTalker76

That's cool. Good luck finding a nice one.

milo bloom

Is that second controller a third party one? That could be the issue too. They weren't manufactured to the same standards as the 1st party ones.

story

Welcome, Mark, I hope you stick around and have a good experience. And thank you, everyone, for being so welcoming and helpful!

Kurt D

Seconded!

(Not a gamer, but liking the helpful, welcoming vibe.)

tanman

I really like this guy's channel. He puts out a lot of good stuff. I had no idea that there was a genesis 3. Might help you a little with the differences between the different versions.

Mark Shepherd

Hi Milo Bloom. I think it is a third party controller. I have to go back to my house to see what it says on it! It says something on it that I think means it is a third party controller. I posted this same thing in a different video game forum. Here is something someone said. I don't know if this is right. Or you agree with it.

Mark Shepherd

Appreciate the welcome Kurtie Dee, Story and Michael!

cruzness

I remember those turbo controllers from back in the day. They were junk and the one I owned did exactly what you are describing

Mark Shepherd

Tanman. Have you played Earthworm Jim? For either the Sega Genesis or the Super Nintendo? Oh but wait. There is a Sega CD version! But that one supposedly the music does some kind of Resident Evil like pause if you press pause. That is kind of what I am talking about. I doubt Frank James was using this turbo controller on the Subway. Sega Genesis tried to engineer and innovate everything, including smart belts for your Honda Pilot. Text Sent on April 18, 2022

I believe that spiritual warfare is going on. The Catholic Church yesterday didn't even have coffee. But some priest offered me some food. But I turned it down. It's like these people all went to the same Bob Jones University.
I told the priest that I don't do drugs. He said, "That's good." I said, "Well you are the first priest who ever said that!" (Then the other priest behind him, aka good cop bad cop scenario, make a sarcastic smirk, as if he knew what I was inferring.)

Well, I don't see anyone giving anyone the good old fashioned bear hugs anymore. I should have told the priest, do you have a Tridacna gigas, or giant clam. Because that is what you guys are. Clamming it up. Churches used to have bus or shuttle ride service, for people who can't really make it. Now it is just a parking lot with a handful of 60,000 dollar chevy suburbans. Real holy. The ballistic communication channel, talk to a priest, but only on the phone. Dumas Texas vs Space Odyssey 2010. Well you know there are ten bible verses about false prophets. One might be about the Sega Turbo Controller.
But Tanman, if Earthworm Jim is better on the Sega Genesis but really better on the Sega CD, then why would you get a Sega Genesis? And you are showing me some guy's channel. Have you seen ProJared. He does a good job. Just don't go to a Final Fantasy forum and post anything on someone talking about Hairy Crocodiles! They will do a Sega Turbo Controller on you! Well a Sega Turbo controller that works. Schedule me for the reply is "Flour." I feel like talking about all of these Sega consoles is a cartoon competition. One is the 2, the three, and then just bow down to Sony? Or be like me (now, finally after learning the hard way) and just get a Super Nintendo.
Sega was trying to do too much, like they were trying to rethink in a Jonathan Raunch way the four food groups. And I mean at the end of the day we just want a console that works. Seriously I go to ProJared channel. But I don't subscribe, because you are talking about 90 percent phony products anyway. I am trying to squeeze out that ten percent that might be real. The should have called the Sega the Sega Stomache chest. Did you know that Aladdin was the third best selling game on Sega? And now they are saying that Aladdin on the Super Nintendo was actually the better game (if you don't mind not having a sword.) You might as well stamp that as the fate of the turbo controller.