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Coral 03-15-18 10:24 PM

Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 
I'm at a certain point in Rise of the Tomb Raider (XBOX One X) and just can't get past it.

I'm 20% into the game and it's at a spot where you need to get into a cave but a Snow Leopard gets in your way. I've followed different gameplay walkthroughs and it's not making a difference... no matter how many poison arrows and bullets I hit it with - it just won't die and I wind up running out of bullets and getting mauled.

I've spent hours on this and really can't spend anymore time on it as it's getting extremely dull and frustrating and is ruining the enjoyment of the game.

How do I skip past a spot in a game? Is there someplace I can just download a way to bypass a certain spot?

There has to be a way around it as I'm sure people aren't going to play the same scenario or days/months/years when they're stuck.

mattysemo247 03-16-18 12:08 AM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 
I remember the encounter that you are talking about, but I don't remember having any issues with it. I think you just keep dodging while shooting it. You might get some other answers as well if you bump the TR thread.

tonyc3742 03-16-18 07:13 AM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 
Is Gamefaqs still a thing? I used to hit them, both the faqs and message boards, for 'how do I get past this place?"

My most extreme was with the original Driver on PS1 - in order to earn your "license" and really start the game, you had to do one of every trick in the game, even the advanced ones you wouldn't do or need till later. It would not let you pass without doing so. There was one I could not do. I downloaded a save and used the DexDrive to put it on my PS1 so I could get past that stupid test. It was so frustrating, the alternative was getting rid of the game (or, I guess, keep practicing till I could do it. Nahh...)

Kedrix 03-16-18 07:31 AM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 
The best way these days especially with the newer games is to go to YouTube, they will give you videos and as long as you can follow what they are doing it should be no issue. GameFaqs at this point is pretty much for older games, 360/PS3 and before. Anything new, I would say YouTube for sure.

Noonan 03-16-18 07:36 AM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 
Is this where you are? Starting to type Tomb Raider Sno...auto filled to snow leopard. Seems to be a lot of vids out there.


K&AJones 03-16-18 07:59 AM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 
When you find the answer...on how to bypass a point in a game...let me know so I can use it in Bloodborne.....and probably a few times....

Coral 03-16-18 09:23 AM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 

Originally Posted by Noonan (Post 13291477)
Is this where you are? Starting to type Tomb Raider Sno...auto filled to snow leopard. Seems to be a lot of vids out there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JxyQkCnLOg

No, it's earlier in the game.


I've found a few videos on youtube for the exact spot and have read website walkthroughs at the same point - and I can't kill stupid thing. I run around like an idiot trying to avoid getting mauled after hitting it multiple times with a poison arrow and rifle fire, but it either mauls me or it goes back in the cave - and then I shoot it some more and it still doesn't die. Once I went around 10 minutes surviving while trying to kill this thing.

At this point I just want to bypass this. How can I just skip past this point... I can't spend more hours on this.

Rob V 03-16-18 10:08 AM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 
Out of curiosity, are you playing on easy setting? It might be a good idea to lower the difficulty all the way down to get past this part. Killing the bears and leopard - to me - are the most challenging parts.

james2025a 03-16-18 11:19 AM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 

Originally Posted by tonyc3742 (Post 13291468)
Is Gamefaqs still a thing? I used to hit them, both the faqs and message boards, for 'how do I get past this place?"

My most extreme was with the original Driver on PS1 - in order to earn your "license" and really start the game, you had to do one of every trick in the game, even the advanced ones you wouldn't do or need till later. It would not let you pass without doing so. There was one I could not do. I downloaded a save and used the DexDrive to put it on my PS1 so I could get past that stupid test. It was so frustrating, the alternative was getting rid of the game (or, I guess, keep practicing till I could do it. Nahh...)

MY GOD!!!! I remember that Driver bit. It was horrible. You had to be perfect on it, and you couldn't not do it and just go onto the game. Horrible idea including it. Took me a while to beat the damn test.

james2025a 03-16-18 11:22 AM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 
I have played through this Tomb Raider game, but this section does not come back to memory. Whenever i have to fight something thats kicking my ass, if i can use the terrain around me to gain height or avoid, i always do.

Coral 03-16-18 04:51 PM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 

Originally Posted by Rob V (Post 13291582)
Out of curiosity, are you playing on easy setting? It might be a good idea to lower the difficulty all the way down to get past this part. Killing the bears and leopard - to me - are the most challenging parts.

Thank you so much. I forgot I didn't have this on the easiest setting.
After doing this, it took only 3 attempts to kill the little bastard.

I haven't played videogames in probably 15 years, so I'm not proficient by any stretch - especially with shooter-style action.
I played the original Tomb Raider 1 and 2 on PC when they were first released in the 90s, and I don't remember there being difficulty levels on them... so I forgot about it here.

This really is a great game, but I find there's just a little too much dependency on the shooting/fighting. I'm really not a fan of playing the same scenario over and over until "getting it right". Taking away the time I spent trying to kill this now leopard, I'm finding the game to be longer than I thought it would be. I'm only 20% in and have played for a while. You seem to get a big bang for your buck.

Thanks again.

mewmartigan 03-16-18 06:34 PM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 
That 20% might just be trophy collection. Its possible to finish a game and be at 50% completion or so because you didn't perform certain feats.

I don't remember how far in the snow leopard is but don't use that percentage as a gauge.

mhg83 03-16-18 11:45 PM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 

Originally Posted by james2025a (Post 13291663)
MY GOD!!!! I remember that Driver bit. It was horrible. You had to be perfect on it, and you couldn't not do it and just go onto the game. Horrible idea including it. Took me a while to beat the damn test.

Same with GTA San Andreas. I got to the mission where you had to get your flying license. I spent hours on that mission I couldn’t believe the game wouldn’t let you skip it ! And it was right before Vegas .

Michael Corvin 03-17-18 10:49 AM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 
I don't recall having any issues with the snow leopard. I think I drew it out and then climbed to a higher elevation and took him out fairly easily.

Rob V 03-19-18 06:41 AM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 

Originally Posted by Coral (Post 13291957)
Thank you so much. I forgot I didn't have this on the easiest setting.
After doing this, it took only 3 attempts to kill the little bastard.

I haven't played videogames in probably 15 years, so I'm not proficient by any stretch - especially with shooter-style action.
I played the original Tomb Raider 1 and 2 on PC when they were first released in the 90s, and I don't remember there being difficulty levels on them... so I forgot about it here.

This really is a great game, but I find there's just a little too much dependency on the shooting/fighting. I'm really not a fan of playing the same scenario over and over until "getting it right". Taking away the time I spent trying to kill this now leopard, I'm finding the game to be longer than I thought it would be. I'm only 20% in and have played for a while. You seem to get a big bang for your buck.

Thanks again.

LOL... I'm the King of "easy setting"... I'm too old and have too little time to challenge myself to the point of frustration. I enjoy the experience for what it is and I distinctly remember how tough the wildlife fights are in this series. There are some puzzles that are pretty trick too... but Youtube is your best bet with this game.

ben12 03-26-18 04:41 PM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 
Have you tried talking to the snow leopard?

davidh777 03-26-18 05:05 PM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 

Originally Posted by mewmartigan (Post 13292021)
That 20% might just be trophy collection. Its possible to finish a game and be at 50% completion or so because you didn't perform certain feats.

I don't remember how far in the snow leopard is but don't use that percentage as a gauge.

Yep, I think I finished one of the Arkham games at 41% because I didn't do the side quests. :lol:

Coral 05-01-18 06:13 PM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 
So I've been playing this game for 6 or 7 weeks and I'm still not done.

The battles take way too long to get by. It can take me days and many many many attempts to get past it. Stuck on another one now and it's impossible to get through.

Why do they put so much concentration on the battles? The game is mostly about exploration and puzzle solving, then I have to deal with trying to kill like 10 guys. They shouldn't make it so hard.
The worst part is this is the 2nd time that, for some reason, I no longer have as much ammo as I had just before a major battle. I just magically lost it in time to be handicapped for a big battle. WTF is that about?

Again, I ask... there has to be a way to skip past something that's too hard.

RichC2 05-01-18 07:24 PM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 

Originally Posted by Coral (Post 13322781)
So I've been playing this game for 6 or 7 weeks and I'm still not done.

The battles take way too long to get by. It can take me days and many many many attempts to get past it. Stuck on another one now and it's impossible to get through.

Why do they put so much concentration on the battles? The game is mostly about exploration and puzzle solving, then I have to deal with trying to kill like 10 guys. They shouldn't make it so hard.
The worst part is this is the 2nd time that, for some reason, I no longer have as much ammo as I had just before a major battle. I just magically lost it in time to be handicapped for a big battle. WTF is that about?

Again, I ask... there has to be a way to skip past something that's too hard.

Game makers are afraid of losing "core" gamers by not having enough action, and they want people to like the play mechanics enough to be a multiplayer hit.

I loved Uncharted 2, for instance, but feel like it loses some ground when it becomes a non-stop shoot 'em up in it's final quarter.

Rob V 05-02-18 06:48 AM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 

Originally Posted by Coral (Post 13322781)
So I've been playing this game for 6 or 7 weeks and I'm still not done.

The battles take way too long to get by. It can take me days and many many many attempts to get past it. Stuck on another one now and it's impossible to get through.

Why do they put so much concentration on the battles? The game is mostly about exploration and puzzle solving, then I have to deal with trying to kill like 10 guys. They shouldn't make it so hard.
The worst part is this is the 2nd time that, for some reason, I no longer have as much ammo as I had just before a major battle. I just magically lost it in time to be handicapped for a big battle. WTF is that about?

Again, I ask... there has to be a way to skip past something that's too hard.

Is it the underground setting where you need to duck around stanchions/ pillars as it feels endless enemies come at you? I struggled with that part -- but again, on easy, most things are doable.

Coral 05-02-18 12:32 PM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 

Originally Posted by Rob V (Post 13323062)
Is it the underground setting where you need to duck around stanchions/ pillars as it feels endless enemies come at you? I struggled with that part -- but again, on easy, most things are doable.

No, I got past that part (if it's what I think it is).

I'm at a part where these "guys" (they don't look human) in heavy armor are attacking me while some of them are throwing some kind of blue flames at me.
I have it on the easiest setting, but I still can't get by them.

Wouldn't have been too hard if the game didn't just strip me of a lot of ammo for no reason before the fight.

This is exactly where the battle starts:


Rob V 05-02-18 02:54 PM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 
Try getting to higher ground and using those exploding urns to maximize damage.

Coral 05-02-18 05:26 PM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 

Originally Posted by Rob V (Post 13323355)
Try getting to higher ground and using those exploding urns to maximize damage.

Overall, it didn't help.

I killed a bunch of them, and then another batch came out and killed me.
Then it starts me from the beginning again instead of after I killed the first batch - which is total bullshit. If it's not going to create proper savepoints, then I should be able to save it myself so I don't have to continue starting over. Now I'm spending hours trying to kill the first batch again.

I have to call the publishers up and get them to cut me past this part. I spent money on this and I can't play the same part of the game for weeks. This is nonsense.

davidh777 05-02-18 06:16 PM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 

Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 13322834)
Game makers are afraid of losing "core" gamers by not having enough action, and they want people to like the play mechanics enough to be a multiplayer hit.

I loved Uncharted 2, for instance, but feel like it loses some ground when it becomes a non-stop shoot 'em up in it's final quarter.

I also think that they worry a game will lose replay value if it's only exploration and puzzles. And yes, I know some people will never replay a game regardless.

Hailey G 05-02-18 08:03 PM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 

Originally Posted by Coral (Post 13322781)

Again, I ask... there has to be a way to skip past something that's too hard.

I can't think of any game that has such a feature. My kids have this feature, it's called "hand the controller to dad." I always get annoyed at them when they do this though, because yes, I can get them past the part they're having trouble with, but if I do that, they're just going to get stuck on the next part which is harder, and builds on the skills you would have learned if you had done it right.

It may be time to admit that you suck at videogames and find another pastime. Have you tried basket weaving? ;)

fumanstan 05-02-18 08:43 PM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 

Originally Posted by Coral (Post 13323469)

I have to call the publishers up and get them to cut me past this part. I spent money on this and I can't play the same part of the game for weeks. This is nonsense.

Developers/Publishers don't owe you anything because a portion of the game is too difficult for you :shrug:

davidh777 05-02-18 09:36 PM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 
I wonder if the OP missed a gear upgrade or something that would make the combat more manageable.

DRG 05-04-18 01:32 PM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 

Originally Posted by davidh777 (Post 13323679)
I wonder if the OP missed a gear upgrade or something that would make the combat more manageable.

That's actually a good point... it could be that they haven't been upgrading the skill tree the best way, or maybe haven't been doing enough side quests to earn XP to use to build up skills.

Rob V 05-07-18 09:25 AM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 
Coral, I'm not pointing this out to make fun of you (ok, maybe a little) but my 10 year old finished this game on Friday. He just turned 10 too... so, hang in there. ;)

Coral 05-07-18 06:26 PM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 
Well I've gotten past the point I was stuck on for a few days... just tried it hundreds of times to finally get through and to be honest I got a little lucky as well.

So now I'm stuck at another battle - big surprise. And it's been days as well.
Once again, I go into battle with being stripped of the ammo just before I got there. So I have to battle like 15 of these a-holes with only 20 bullets for my regular gun, 3 shotgun shells and like 5 arrows. That's it.
I honestly don't see myself getting past this stage, and apparently I'm VERY close to finishing the game.

Coral 05-10-18 05:10 PM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 
Finished!

I am the greatest Tomb Raider of all time.

Thanks to those who assisted and motivated me by comparing me to their 10 year old son. :lol:

I'm about 15 years removed from gaming, so going from that point to now - I'm blown away by how much things have advanced... graphically, AI and gameplay-wise.

This really was an amazing game. Can't believe how big this TR universe was.
I still think they need to have an even easier setting for the battles, because it gets repetitive fighting the same battles over and over. For people like me who are more into the environment and puzzles and not mindless shooting, most of those battles felt like chores. Having a much easier setting opens the game up to more people like me and widens the games audience. Why not sell more copies if you could?

I'll have the think about whether I want to go through the upcoming game in the fall if the battles are just as daunting.

Anyone play the previous game? Worth playing?
Are they planning to patch it for the One X?

mattysemo247 05-10-18 06:33 PM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 
The original reboot was great. I don't think they did anything to boost it for the One X. The next one comes out in September though and that will be optimized for One X.

fumanstan 05-11-18 12:44 AM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 
Yeah, Tomb Raider is fun. Luckily the story in 'Rise' isn't too reliant on the events of the first game, so it should still be fun to see a more amateur Lara doing her thing and learning to survive. I had started playing it again after watching the new movie, and it still looks pretty good.

That said, I can see you potentially getting pretty angry if you get stuck and see those death scenes over and over again. :p

Rob V 05-11-18 07:08 AM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 

Originally Posted by mattysemo247 (Post 13329295)
The original reboot was great. I don't think they did anything to boost it for the One X. The next one comes out in September though and that will be optimized for One X.

I echo this sentiment... great game. Climbing the tower was amazing.. you'll know it when you get there.

Coral 07-07-18 10:51 PM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 
A few weeks ago the digital version of Tomb Raider Definitive Edition (they couldn't think of a better name than that?) was on sale for $7 - so I jumped on it.

Just finished it today. Great game.

It was much easier and less frustrating than Rise of the Tomb Raider (which is still a great game anyway). I found the game was less bogged down in battle sequences where I had to continue to play them out over and over and found myself frustrated as hell. The battles were tough, but not overly so.

I also liked that there wasn't nearly as much backtracking as in Rise - which was also a little annoying.

Can't wait for the new one in the fall.

Michael Corvin 07-08-18 07:26 AM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 
This one was easier because you came into it as the greatest Tomb Raider of all time. :)

But seriously, they're both amazing games. I'm glad you powered through and enjoyed them.

Coral 07-08-18 02:40 PM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 13367978)
This one was easier because you came into it as the greatest Tomb Raider of all time. :)

Excellent point. ;)

But yea, it definitely seems like when they made Rise they figured they needed to make the battles tougher with the hope of drawing people who are into shooters or something. I think it backfired because it took away from the adventure and got bogged down in button mashing and scrambling.

The talk is that Shadow will be more stealth action instead of straight on battles. This will be a welcome change as it's a more strategic and methodical way to handle the action/battles.

fumanstan 07-08-18 06:19 PM

Re: Bypassing a spot in gameplay
 
It's funny, I really recall Tomb Raider being much more difficult then Rise. There were a few times where I saw so many of those damn death sequences.


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