Night Trap gets re-release, complete with physical edition
08-11-17, 02:25 PM
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Yeah I was pretty pissed this morning at 9:02 when it sold out already. I was logged into my account and paypal and still got screwed. I really shouldn't have checked ebay. By quarter after they were already listed and selling for twice the price. I really hate this method of business. It just punishes people who actually want the items instead of rewarding scalpels. Mondo does the same shit.
08-11-17, 03:33 PM
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All the games they sell are easily available to play digitally most for like 75% of the cost. These are niche items for collectors. If they didn't use this business model they wouldn't be selling the games.
08-11-17, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by The Questyen
All the games they sell are easily available to play digitally most for like 75% of the cost. These are niche items for collectors. If they didn't use this business model they wouldn't be selling the games.
08-11-17, 04:16 PM
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I bought a LRG for Shadow Complex Remastered. Glad I did as it's one of my favorite games ever. But I am glad I'm not obsessive about their games since they're way more expensive, difficult to purchase and most are better played digitally anyway. I don't feel like I'm missing out by getting a digital copy on sale instead.
08-11-17, 04:30 PM
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$14.99
the game will also include 1986 night trap prototype 'scene of the crime' as a fully-playable extra for the first time. Night trap: 25th anniversary edition is heading to xbox one, playstation 4 and pc on 15th august 2017, priced $14.99/£11.99.
08-11-17, 04:32 PM
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Re: Night Trap gets re-release, complete with physical edition
By the way, 28 minutes until batch #2 goes up.
Regular: https://limitedrungames.com/products...night-trap-ps4
CE: https://limitedrungames.com/products...rs-edition-ps4
7" vinyl only: https://limitedrungames.com/products...rap-7-in-vinyl
Mega bundle
:https://limitedrungames.com/products...ay-mega-bundle
Documentary Blu-ray: https://limitedrungames.com/products...nt=43182212227
You may get 404 errors between now and then on those pages. Don't fret. Just start refreshing 5-10 seconds before the hour.
Advice if you're serious about trying on that site:
Regular: https://limitedrungames.com/products...night-trap-ps4
CE: https://limitedrungames.com/products...rs-edition-ps4
7" vinyl only: https://limitedrungames.com/products...rap-7-in-vinyl
Mega bundle
:https://limitedrungames.com/products...ay-mega-bundleDocumentary Blu-ray: https://limitedrungames.com/products...nt=43182212227
You may get 404 errors between now and then on those pages. Don't fret. Just start refreshing 5-10 seconds before the hour.
Advice if you're serious about trying on that site:
Spoiler:
08-11-17, 05:03 PM
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Got skunked out on the LP (gone within seconds...as I was pressing the place order button), oh well... just happy to get in on the PC & Steam version of the game.
Here's a consolation video...
Here's a consolation video...
08-11-17, 05:11 PM
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Re: Night Trap gets re-release, complete with physical edition
Originally Posted by Dan
By the way, 28 minutes until batch #2 goes up.
Regular: https://limitedrungames.com/products...night-trap-ps4
CE: https://limitedrungames.com/products...rs-edition-ps4
7" vinyl only: https://limitedrungames.com/products...rap-7-in-vinyl
Mega bundle :https://limitedrungames.com/products...ay-mega-bundle
Documentary Blu-ray: https://limitedrungames.com/products...nt=43182212227
You may get 404 errors between now and then on those pages. Don't fret. Just start refreshing 5-10 seconds before the hour.
Advice if you're serious about trying on that site:
Regular: https://limitedrungames.com/products...night-trap-ps4
CE: https://limitedrungames.com/products...rs-edition-ps4
7" vinyl only: https://limitedrungames.com/products...rap-7-in-vinyl
Mega bundle
:https://limitedrungames.com/products...ay-mega-bundleDocumentary Blu-ray: https://limitedrungames.com/products...nt=43182212227
You may get 404 errors between now and then on those pages. Don't fret. Just start refreshing 5-10 seconds before the hour.
Advice if you're serious about trying on that site:
08-11-17, 05:14 PM
#61
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Originally Posted by robin2099
Thanks for the advice I (barely) managed to snag a copy. Thank god I don't buy many online games because I'm not going through that again. All versions sold out again in 2 minutes!
08-11-17, 05:35 PM
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By sheer luck, I managed to purchase a copy of the Standard (PS4) Edition during the first batch.
It's a bit silly that the first batch had a limit of 2 per order and the second batch had a limit of 1 per order. Should have just made it the same all around.
It's a bit silly that the first batch had a limit of 2 per order and the second batch had a limit of 1 per order. Should have just made it the same all around.
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08-11-17, 05:46 PM
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Man, what a bunch of crap. I added a copy to my cart the moment the second batch went up, got put "in line" for 10 seconds, went to the checkout page and hit "Pay by Paypal". My PP account logged in and it refreshed and said "Sorry, the item you are buying is sold out."
They literally sold the copy out of my cart while I was authenticating my payment.
They literally sold the copy out of my cart while I was authenticating my payment.
08-11-17, 05:58 PM
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Re: Night Trap gets re-release, complete with physical edition
Originally Posted by Bob_Bobbson
They literally sold the copy out of my cart while I was authenticating my payment.
I'm not sure when they changed things to be that way. (Wonder Boy was my first LRG order this year.)
08-11-17, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
I'm not sure when they changed things to be that way. (Wonder Boy was my first LRG order this year.)
08-11-17, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob_Bobbson
Man, what a bunch of crap. I added a copy to my cart the moment the second batch went up, got put "in line" for 10 seconds, went to the checkout page and hit "Pay by Paypal". My PP account logged in and it refreshed and said "Sorry, the item you are buying is sold out."
They literally sold the copy out of my cart while I was authenticating my payment.
They literally sold the copy out of my cart while I was authenticating my payment.
08-11-17, 06:40 PM
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Re: Night Trap gets re-release, complete with physical edition
Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Jabroni
Every website will do that. Putting something in your cart doesn't reserve a copy until you finish checking out.
08-11-17, 06:43 PM
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5-10 minute windows aren't uncommon for tickets for shows and whatnot since each ticket is unique, but on retail sites selling X number of limited items...I think it's pretty rare.
LRG specifically said that implementing such a system would be too closely for their business. Not sure of the truth to that... But that's what they say.
This tweet thread goes into more detail. Click on the time stamp to see the rest of what they say.
LRG specifically said that implementing such a system would be too closely for their business. Not sure of the truth to that... But that's what they say.
This tweet thread goes into more detail. Click on the time stamp to see the rest of what they say.
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08-11-17, 06:48 PM
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In my experience, if they reserve anything for any amount of time, they give you a countdown clock. Tickets and Amazon lightning deals are about the only times I see those clocks. If you aren't given a clock, it's a pretty good bet that adding an item to your cart doesn't reserve anything.
08-11-17, 07:45 PM
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Re: Night Trap gets re-release, complete with physical edition
Originally Posted by Dan
5-10 minute windows aren't uncommon for tickets for shows and whatnot since each ticket is unique, but on retail sites selling X number of limited items...I think it's pretty rare.
From a quick Google search:
Online stores typically take an item out of the available inventory once it is added to the shopping cart, in order to enable the buyer to complete the purchase and not find out that it is out of stock by the time he checks out. Retailers typically leave an item there for 10-15 minutes before concluding the shopper has left the site and returning the merchandise to inventory.
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08-12-17, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
Amazon (lightning deals excepted)
08-12-17, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
It seems to be more common than you think, though not on the likes of Amazon (lightning deals excepted) or Walmart.com. There are just so few instances where it's obvious to an end user. Pretty much every shopping cart software you'll come across has this as a standard feature.
From a quick Google search:
From a quick Google search:
Shopify (one of the main hosts for this stuff) used to run exactly as described in that article, but they've since changed... just in the last few months it seems. The tweet thread from LRG specifically says this:
This bears repeating: inventory on our site is not considered reserved for you at any point. Not at adding to cart and not at check out.This is how our host's inventory system is set up. It is no small feat (nor even remotely feasible) to change it.
(someone asked) But why did THEY change it? It was fine before.
Because front end inventory never reflected what was held in checkout and that caused a ton of confusion with customers on Shopify stores. Customers could add an item to cart when all items were held in checkout and wouldn't know it was "out of stock" until the clicked checkout. Thing was, the games weren't actually "out of stock" as about 50% of holds were abandoned. Customers getting the "out of stock" message would leave the site angry and held inventory would bounce between carts as it was abandoned. Typically, under the old system, the last copy of a game would bounce around for 15 - 20 minutes before being bought. During that time, 1000s could still add item to cart and try to checkout but would get the sold out message when technically 1 was in stock.
(someone asked) But why did THEY change it? It was fine before.
Because front end inventory never reflected what was held in checkout and that caused a ton of confusion with customers on Shopify stores. Customers could add an item to cart when all items were held in checkout and wouldn't know it was "out of stock" until the clicked checkout. Thing was, the games weren't actually "out of stock" as about 50% of holds were abandoned. Customers getting the "out of stock" message would leave the site angry and held inventory would bounce between carts as it was abandoned. Typically, under the old system, the last copy of a game would bounce around for 15 - 20 minutes before being bought. During that time, 1000s could still add item to cart and try to checkout but would get the sold out message when technically 1 was in stock.
It's shitty because neither system is perfect, but I'm not sure that Shopify's current system is necessarily worse.
08-12-17, 09:10 AM
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Re: Night Trap gets re-release, complete with physical edition
Originally Posted by Dan
Weird... the tweet thread I posted doesn't seem to show up, but it's worth pointing out that that article you quoted is from December.
I posted that just to indicate that carts temporarily reserving items from inventory is not unusual (even though Shopify has changed, I don't think there's been a sea change across many/most retailers since then). It wasn't meant to indicate the way LRG is currently doing things or even how they should do things. I totally get it. I'd be annoyed if I tried to buy something, got a 'sold out' message, but then a bunch of games showed up as being back in inventory a few minutes later once some carts were abandoned. Y'know, making me think I'd missed my window of opportunity when I actually hadn't. Not that getting a 'sold out' message during checkout is ideal, but I do think it's preferable to the alternative.
08-12-17, 10:12 AM
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Yeah, you're right
I was thinking other sites had followed suit with Shopify, but that's likely not the case, as you say. My assumption was more because most of my online purchases seem to be through sites that use Shopify, so I'm used to seeing how it works (and doesn't work) for different types of orders. These high-demand, limited run type of products seem to have it the worst, no matter how the system actually works.
Personally, if I was LRG, I'd set up a system like what Data Discs uses for their vinyl releases. They send out passwords to their mailing list, and there's three batches: One batch for USA-only w/ passwords, one batch for the rest of the world w/ passwords, and one batch for the general public.
It's still not perfect, but it alleviates some of the stress. I've never had a problem placing a Data Discs order.
I was thinking other sites had followed suit with Shopify, but that's likely not the case, as you say. My assumption was more because most of my online purchases seem to be through sites that use Shopify, so I'm used to seeing how it works (and doesn't work) for different types of orders. These high-demand, limited run type of products seem to have it the worst, no matter how the system actually works.
Personally, if I was LRG, I'd set up a system like what Data Discs uses for their vinyl releases. They send out passwords to their mailing list, and there's three batches: One batch for USA-only w/ passwords, one batch for the rest of the world w/ passwords, and one batch for the general public.
It's still not perfect, but it alleviates some of the stress. I've never had a problem placing a Data Discs order.
