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Old 07-27-20, 10:57 AM
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch

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Still haven't found one in stock after months sigh even signed out for that stock finder site.
Check Wario64 on twitter regularly, he usually posts whenever a store has them in stock. I won't link it here because he uses affiliate links.
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Amazon had Switched with Neon Joy Cons for 5 minutes today.
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Keep an eye out at Target if you have one nearby. The one here has had stock recently, they went fast though. You can't trust their app for stock though, I have gotten duped on several occasions going to the store to buy something the app said they have and they didn't.
I'll keep an eye out if my store gets any more.
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch

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Gatordeb,
Keep an eye out at Target if you have one nearby. The one here has had stock recently, they went fast though. You can't trust their app for stock though, I have gotten duped on several occasions going to the store to buy something the app said they have and they didn't.
I'll keep an eye out if my store gets any more.
I stopped at a Target mid-morning on a Monday a few weeks ago, and they had three Neon bundles in stock. In the few minutes I spent mulling over whether to buy one or not, someone came in and bought one of them. That was all that I needed. 😉

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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch

Pikmin 3: Deluxe is being released on October 30th for the Switch:

Old 08-05-20, 10:42 AM
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch

Lame. More WiiU shovelware. I get they're trying to make up money they lost on the WiiU but at some point it's time to move on. Miyamoto said Pikmin 4 was almost complete way back in 2015.
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch

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Lame. More WiiU shovelware. I get they're trying to make up money they lost on the WiiU but at some point it's time to move on. Miyamoto said Pikmin 4 was almost complete way back in 2015.
Truth be told. I've never played a Pikmin game and when I shared with my kids, they said, "meh."
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch

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Lame. More WiiU shovelware. I get they're trying to make up money they lost on the WiiU but at some point it's time to move on. Miyamoto said Pikmin 4 was almost complete way back in 2015.
Hard disagree. I hope they continue to bring the rest of these Wii U games over. Pikmin is one of my favorite franchises in gaming and I'm looking forward to replaying on my Switch.
Old 08-05-20, 11:48 AM
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Lame. More WiiU shovelware. I get they're trying to make up money they lost on the WiiU but at some point it's time to move on. Miyamoto said Pikmin 4 was almost complete way back in 2015.
I dunno. Since nobody played these WiiU versions (except me) I guess it makes sense to slap a new coat of paint on them. It's not like the other consoles don't shamelessly do the same.
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch

I mean it's recycled and not really re-done, but that doesn't make it "shovelware". Because God knows, there is PLENTY of shovelware on the eShop already.

I do think asking $59.99 is a little insane though. I won't buy it at that price and I think I have already bought every major Switch first-party release so far.
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Yeah, their pricing is ridiculous.
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I put over 60 hours into Pikmin 3. Pikmin is a niche franchise so who/how many people are they really hoping to rope in that didn't already play it? And if $60 is true, that's absurd. At least get creative with it. Tease Pikmin 4 (if it's truly in the works). Toss in an exclusive Pikmin 4 demo/level and unlockables to entice people to re-buy. "Play an exclusive Pikmin 4 level! Pikmin 4 coming Winter 2021!) $40 available to download today!

The "Deluxe" part is kinda lackluster as well for anyone that already played everything.
  • new difficulty levels (meh)
  • new side missions (has potential, but need more info)
  • new Piklopedia that reveals interesting information about all the things in the game *yawn Nintendo's equivalent of some digital skins.
  • all of the previously released DLC (par for the course on a release like this)
I don't need portable versions of WiiU games I already played. It's just a lazy cash grab at $60. And this is coming from someone that re-bought both Pikmin and Pikmin 2 on the Wii having already owned them on the Gamecube. At least those brought something new to the table with motion controls. They were also only $40 on release day, IIRC.

Oh well. Maybe I'll bite if it ever hits $20.
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I get the idea though, easily ported game during a period of high boredom. The Wii U had a base of less than 14 million, the Switch has an installed base in excess of 55 million and growing.

But it should be half the price and have a "Classics" title stamped on it. Maybe they're testing the waters to see if they want to pour more money into #4.
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
I put over 60 hours into Pikmin 3. Pikmin is a niche franchise so who/how many people are they really hoping to rope in that didn't already play it? And if $60 is true, that's absurd. At least get creative with it. Tease Pikmin 4 (if it's truly in the works). Toss in an exclusive Pikmin 4 demo/level and unlockables to entice people to re-buy. "Play an exclusive Pikmin 4 level! Pikmin 4 coming Winter 2021!) $40 available to download today!

The "Deluxe" part is kinda lackluster as well for anyone that already played everything.
  • new difficulty levels (meh)
  • new side missions (has potential, but need more info)
  • new Piklopedia that reveals interesting information about all the things in the game *yawn Nintendo's equivalent of some digital skins.
  • all of the previously released DLC (par for the course on a release like this)
I don't need portable versions of WiiU games I already played. It's just a lazy cash grab at $60. And this is coming from someone that re-bought both Pikmin and Pikmin 2 on the Wii having already owned them on the Gamecube. At least those brought something new to the table with motion controls. They were also only $40 on release day, IIRC.

Oh well. Maybe I'll bite if it ever hits $20.
I like how you list everything new this re-release is bringing to the table and say it's nothing and then praise the Wii versions for motion controls which is the only thing it brought. This re-release is bringing far more to the table. Also those games were $40 when they came out 12 years ago not sure how that is relevant to releases now.
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch

Motion was new and brought different gameplay and having played through both on both systems, was a decent value add, and yeah, they weren't full price. Adding a difficulty, some light menu reading and 7 year old DLC doesn't scream "buy me." I get it, you want to pay full price for warmed over games on a WiiU2 system. I don't. No biggie.

I'd just rather see new games rather than a greatest hits console. Speaking of, I finally picked up SM Odyssey earlier. Hopefully I'll get to give it a spin this weekend.
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch

I really donít have a problem with how Nintendo is re-releasing a lot of the Wii U titles. It makes sense when a lot of those games should have sold better, but were on a flop of a console.

As far as whether or not they should be full price I guess is up for debate. To me itís not much of an issue as theyíre not games Iíve previously purchased, and in essence are new to me. I also get Nintendo wanting to protect their brand and they generally donít discount their big titles.
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It would have been nice if this was all three games for $60.
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch

Some people just love to complain.
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Some people just love to complain.
It's a totally legitimate complaint though. The pricing of last generation games that have been remastered for this current generation has been well established. Either its less than a new game's $59.99 MSRP (Gears Ultimate, Bulletstorm, Burnout Paradise Remastered, God of War 3, Darksiders 2) or it's a collection of multiple games for the price of a new game (Borderlands Handsome Collection, Ezio Collection, Bioshock Collection, Batman Return to Arkham, Master Chief Collection ). Sometimes it's even both (Bayonetta and Vanquish 10th Anniversary bundle, Prototype Biohazard Bundle, Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 REmix).
Even Nintendo has for the most part followed this pricing structure, charging $39.99 for Captain Toad and bundling Bayonetta 1 &. 2 for $59.99 (though they did charge full price for the most recent Donkey Kong game). If you exclude Nintendo, the ONLY examples that I can think of where a previous generation single game remaster (NOT remake) are GTA V and Skyrim. And both those were HUGE games both in terms of scope, content and popularity. And GTA V was still a pretty new game at that point. Pikimin 3 is none of that and it's overpriced for sure based on all recent precedent.
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch

I remember years ago Bruce Campbell was at a convention and somebody asked him why Anchor Bay kept putting out different DVDs of Army of Darkness.

He replied "because you people keep buying them!"


Obviously some people have no issue paying triple AAA new title prices for remasters and they keep buying them so Nintendo keeps pricing them at that price.
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I don't think people care that much about initial price, the issue is that this is Nintendo and they won't deep discount like ever.

But that's ok with me, it's not like I don't already have too much to play.
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It's a totally legitimate complaint though. The pricing of last generation games that have been remastered for this current generation has been well established. Either its less than a new game's $59.99 MSRP (Gears Ultimate, Bulletstorm, Burnout Paradise Remastered, God of War 3, Darksiders 2) or it's a collection of multiple games for the price of a new game (Borderlands Handsome Collection, Ezio Collection, Bioshock Collection, Batman Return to Arkham, Master Chief Collection ). Sometimes it's even both (Bayonetta and Vanquish 10th Anniversary bundle, Prototype Biohazard Bundle, Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 REmix).
Even Nintendo has for the most part followed this pricing structure, charging $39.99 for Captain Toad and bundling Bayonetta 1 &. 2 for $59.99 (though they did charge full price for the most recent Donkey Kong game). If you exclude Nintendo, the ONLY examples that I can think of where a previous generation single game remaster (NOT remake) are GTA V and Skyrim. And both those were HUGE games both in terms of scope, content and popularity. And GTA V was still a pretty new game at that point. Pikimin 3 is none of that and it's overpriced for sure based on all recent precedent.
All the Nintendo first party ones have been full price. Captain Toad was already a $40 game on Wii U so that is why it was cheaper. NSMBU Deluxe was full price.
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All the Nintendo first party ones have been full price. Captain Toad was already a $40 game on Wii U so that is why it was cheaper. NSMBU Deluxe was full price.
I didn't realize that about Captain Toad. Pokken Tournament DX was also full-priced. I guess they're consistent, but it does seem like a bit of a reach compared to everywhere else in the Market.

I wish they would at least bring back the Voucher deal.
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I wish they would get around to bringing Super Mario 3D World to the Switch. I spent so many hours playing that game, it's not even funny.
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I wish they would get around to bringing Super Mario 3D World to the Switch. I spent so many hours playing that game, it's not even funny.
Supposedly there is a remastered collection of 3D World, Super Mario 64, and Super Mario Galaxy coming for Marioís 35th anniversary.
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