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Old 05-05-16, 01:11 PM
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AVS System (Play Nintendo in HD)

Shameless plug for a close friend who's going to be releasing this system later this summer. Looks awesome, I've been testing a prototype and it looks absolutely gorgeous and fantastic.

I'll spoiler the images because of the size.

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Old 05-05-16, 02:23 PM
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Yes, I want this please! I've still got tons of NES games, I bust out the system every once in awhile but this look amazing. What's the price point and where will it be available to purchase?
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I think it's going to be $185 according to this post on his YouTube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPJ...8B8ADJJSNDlXUw

He also has some other videos related to the product on there as well!
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Re: AVS System (Play Nintendo in HD)

Comparison video between toploader and AVS.

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Old 05-05-16, 07:59 PM
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Nice! I'm impressed. I've never actually had an NES, but if I had some cartridges, I'd get one of these.

I've got an Atari 2600 with an S-Video output which still gets plenty of use.
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Re: AVS System (Play Nintendo in HD)

that does look pretty cool...
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Can't wait til try it out tonight when I get home Full prototype enclosed.
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Old 05-09-16, 08:27 PM
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Re: AVS System (Play Nintendo in HD)

Why isn't this a toploader? If it were, and the price were right, I'd likely be buying one.

Also, I am close to calling shenanigans on the video feed for the official NES toploader looking so terrible in that video.

I bought a toploader some years ago, and while it still won't look as good as the new one with HDMI output, mine doesn't look that terrible.
It's also probably not fair to be using the toploader as a video comparison as the coax output is obviously not going to be as good as the
composite output would be on 99% of the original NES systems people own(ed).
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Re: AVS System (Play Nintendo in HD)

Originally Posted by dan30oly View Post
Why isn't this a toploader? If it were, and the price were right, I'd likely be buying one.
Just out of curiosity, why?

I find the appearance of a toploading cartridge-based console to be really dated (in a bad way) compared to today's elegantly designed systems. I felt that the toploading NES in particular looked the worst, as the large carts that were designed to be hidden in the toaster stuck way out. I like that they completely enclosed the cart in this design.

It shouldn't have the issue the toaster has with the pins getting bent because you don't press the game down after you insert it, if that's your concern. You just slide the game into place, like a toploader but sideways.
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Old 05-09-16, 09:31 PM
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Re: AVS System (Play Nintendo in HD)

the pin connectors on the horizontal units are easily damaged. That is what causes people to blow into the cartridges (which is very bad for the games), and why the NES ended up being the only system that was originally designed as a toploader.

And, of course I just finished reading your post after writing the above portion and didn't realize that this system didn't require you to push down on the cartridge.

Regardless, $185 is too much for this system by about $85. If I wanted, I could pick up a retron 5 for $160 and play the games of more systems for less.
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Originally Posted by dan30oly View Post
Regardless, $185 is too much for this system by about $85. If I wanted, I could pick up a retron 5 for $160 and play the games of more systems for less.
This might be the only thing I ever agree with dan30oly on... ever. I almost feel dirty.
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Old 05-10-16, 08:16 AM
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Re: AVS System (Play Nintendo in HD)

I really like the idea of this thing, and $185 is an excellent price.

The only thing I'd really want added is a CRT simulation shader that approaches the level seen in Super Win The Game.


The guy who made that game did a great technical explanation of how he did it, and how adjustable it is.



If the AVS System had something like that built in, I'd even pay an extra $50 on top of the regular price. There's just something... wrong... about playing NES games in "pixel-perfect" resolution.

Still, I may get one of these anyway.
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Old 08-07-16, 09:24 AM
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Re: AVS System (Play Nintendo in HD)

are we getting close to this coming out? With the nightmare that was the Analogue NT..I would guess this might actually do very well...

Hell I have a CRT set up in my game room, but I would not mind getting this for my bedroom so I can play some games in there.
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I thought I read on NeoGAF that preorders are starting within the next few weeks... At $185.

Price is decent, considering that it's actual hardware, and not as limited as the Classic NES, and not as pricey as it could be.
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Let me know when there's an SNES equivalent.

I haven't had any NES cartridges for a while, but I still have more than 40 SNES cartridges.
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I think he will be doing preorders starting on Monday at www.retrousb.com
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It's up for pre-order now!

And the site has crashed.

Which is probably a good sign of the demand for this thing!
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Re: AVS System (Play Nintendo in HD)

Originally Posted by slop101 View Post
Let me know when there's an SNES equivalent.

I haven't had any NES cartridges for a while, but I still have more than 40 SNES cartridges.
This is the same thing I think anytime there's an NES product. I still have my SNES and cartridges for it at home, so I'd love a high quality home brew upgrade like this for the SNES.
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I would LOVE if he did a SNES version, don't think he will, but who knows, if this one does really well maybe he'll change his mind!
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Re: AVS System (Play Nintendo in HD)

Maybe this has been addressed, but how is this thing avoiding lawsuits? Looks cool though. A little pricey, but that's understandable.
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Maybe this has been addressed, but how is this thing avoiding lawsuits?
All the patents on the original Nintendo Entertainment System have expired. The only issue they'd run into would be trademark, and I don't see them using any "Nintendo" branding on the actual system.

There've been clone systems of the NES and SNES for years now (sometimes combined into one system). This is just apparently a higher quality one, the others all had slight issues with sound/video due to emulating the original hardware in some way instead of replicating it.


Interestingly, the name of this system, AVS, is a reference to a prototype of the NES that would've positioned it as more of a home computer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...ter_.281984.29
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Not gonna bother trying to embed, but here's a comparison video I did with the NES and Toploader with the AVS.

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Originally Posted by Jay G. View Post
All the patents on the original Nintendo Entertainment System have expired. The only issue they'd run into would be trademark, and I don't see them using any "Nintendo" branding on the actual system.

There've been clone systems of the NES and SNES for years now (sometimes combined into one system). This is just apparently a higher quality one, the others all had slight issues with sound/video due to emulating the original hardware in some way instead of replicating it.


Interestingly, the name of this system, AVS, is a reference to a prototype of the NES that would've positioned it as more of a home computer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...ter_.281984.29

Weird. I guess it just didn't occur to me that Nintendo would let something like that happen. They seem to be pretty anal when it comes to their IP.
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Weird. I guess it just didn't occur to me that Nintendo would let something like that happen. They seem to be pretty anal when it comes to their IP.
Companies don't "let" patents expire. It's how patents are designed and intended to work. It's in the Constitution that patents can only be valid for a limited time and have to eventually expire.
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Not gonna bother trying to embed, but here's a comparison video I did with the NES and Toploader with the AVS.

https://youtu.be/UhUBnJ3Vzd8
Fortunately, it looks like DVDtalk now automates embedding of Youtube links.

BTW, the reason for the choice between channels 3 and 4 on the old RF modulators was because some regions in the US actually had stations broadcasting on channel 3, but the FCC didn't typically license neighboring channels in the same area to prevent crosstalk, so if channel 3 was in use, channel 4 likely wouldn't be. I believe the default on most things like VCRs was 3, with the option to switch to 4.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_3/4_output
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_...on_frequencies
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