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I also hate any and all games that use them. I've just played the same section of The Last Of Us about 25 fucking times. I then slammed down the controller and cut power to the console. I will never return to this game. I absolutely LOATHE this game because of the save system...or should I say the NON-save system. If I had known the thing used checkpoints I never would have bought it. How do you feel about not being able to save when and where you want? Do you like playing the same damn thing over and over and over and over?

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It's fine, learn 2 play.

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As long as there is a short distance between checkpoints i don't get too frustrated, but I definitely would prefer a save anytime you want option. Especially now since i have kids and have to stop playing at the drop of a hat sometimes.

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There are very, very few games these days that let you save anywhere and anytime you want. I'm struggling to think of any besides Bethesda-developed games (Elder Scrolls, Fallout).

Did you consider dropping the difficulty?

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I miss the PC days where you could save anytime you wanted. It's still one of the things I dislike about consoles; even with plenty of hard drive space, I thought it was silly that some games still even restricted the number of saves you could have.

Also, long live the Quick Save/Quick Load.

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If you like story driven games but don't like checkpoints, I've got some really bad news for you.

Was Last of Us a hard game? I don't remember it being a hard game.

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I wish GTA IV had checkpoints :(

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Just out of curiosity, what part of the game are you stuck at? I agree there are some games that have obnoxious checkpoints -- or lack thereof (I'm looking at you, GTA4). Still, I don't remember having a supremely difficult time with the ones on Last of Us. I suppose some of the stealth areas were a pain in the ass when I'd sneak around for 10 minutes carefully taking out enemies only to miss one, get killed, and have to start it all over, but once I made that mistake once I rarely made it again (in that same area).

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The Last of Us would be too easy if you could simply play each encounter and save or re-load and play it again until you got it just right. The existence of checkpoints at all takes away just a tad from the feeling they want you to have of actually controlling these peoples' lives in this bleak world. I suck at the game and haven't finished it yet but I still think checkpoints are a better choice than saving when and where you want.

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I prefer the save anywhere but I also don't mind checkpoints or autosave.

Then again, these days I rarely play anything above the "easy" difficulty. I just want to have fun and play and don't have the time to bang my head against the wall or put a ton of time into a game. I'm about to turn 42 and with a family, full time job, etc., gone are the days of playing a section over and over for me or even playing games through to the end that I am not highly enjoying. I used to finish games that I wasn't having much fun with just because. Now if I am not feeling the love or it feels like a chore to play I dump it. Whether it is two hours in or 12 hours in.

But as everyone said, drop the difficulty. Then enjoy or dump it.

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I love checkpoints. I hate games where you have to manually save, because of that one time when you spend hours on the game, and 1) you turn it off and forget to save, 2) a random power outage, and 3) something goes wrong.


Also, there isn't a part in the last of us that is that hard. Difficult sure, on survival, but not impossible.

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It certainly had some parts that were hard. Well, not "hard", but difficult in that they were designed to be played one specific way with little deviation. And if you're not playing it that one way, you're not getting past that point.

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My one complaint about the Borderlands series which I otherwise love is the checkpoints and lack of Fast Travel from any point in the game. As long as you have reached a point already, they should include a option to travel there at any time from any place. I hate having to constantly travel back and forth over the same exact route 20 times.

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I disagree, if anything i'd say dying a bunch of times just takes away from the story which for me was the only compelling part of the game for me.

I don't recall Last of Us being that difficult, but do recall a few cases where I died a half dozen times or so.

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Is that a hint? :D

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I don't mind Check Points, adds a little bit of challenge to games that are by and large too easy these days.

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It doesn't matter because I gave the game to my nephew, but I didn't get very far. I had to take out a clicker surrounded by runners so... the runners could see me and the clicker could hear me so no matter what I did I was fucked. I took out the runners several times but could not kill the clicker... shot him 6 times and wore out the pipe... that damn thing was invulnerable, at least with the weapons I had.

Numerous aspects of the game irritated me. A 9mm with a 6 shot capacity? Really? I've owned numerous guns but never seen one of those.

My head almost exploded when they escaped the city and the game didn't give the option the scavenge the ammo and automatic weapons... at the very least. This was game of the year at lots of places that talked about how "real" it was. Seriously? I don't see it. I would have never left those weapons behind.

Damn lame weapons that break all the time and controls that don't work. You're supposed to push the button with the square on it to break free if something grabs you. Yeah, right. It never works. NEVER. I guess I'm not a fan of sneaky games and the checkpoints make it intolerable. I could have made it past this if I could have saved after taking out the runners.... just as well I couldn't. I wasn't having fun and I have a feeling it only gets more irritating.

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I hate checkpoints in games where they're not clearly marked, so I have no idea where I'm going to start from if I turn the game off.

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I actually think I know the exact spot you're talking about, and honestly it was one of the hardest parts of the game just because your character is still pretty weak at that point AND you haven't had a chance to learn the patterns and tactics... meaning it would have gotten a bit easier to manage after that.

That said, if stealth games aren't your thing you were probably never going to enjoy The Last of Us, regardless of checkpoints. You probably saved yourself a lot of misery by quitting when you did because that stealth dynamic is pretty much the whole game.

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Yeah, that first one is really hard. Most people repeat that part several times. That's when you learn how to deal with your enemies.

Later you get molotov bombs, fire, and clear areas more easily.

I would give it another try. After this encounter the AI even becomes dumber, you can see NPCs walking along the zombies and not being attacked.

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Play Last of us On Grounded difficulty. It takes away most checkpoints, problem solved!

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It's unfortunate that you didn't restart on an easier difficulty because that is easily one of the best games from last gen.

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Op... how good are you at games?

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I hate checkpoints that come just before lengthy, unskippable scenes.

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I ran into the same thing with that game. Restarted the same area probably 20 times, said "fuck it," shut it off and sold it the next day. No game is worth that annoyance.

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Surprised people had problems with TLoU. I didn't find it overly difficult. Maybe the part in the barn with only Ellie where you get swarmed.

Also, I would have gone insane if GTAV didn't have checkpoints during missions.

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Two bad you guys quit at that part. I'd say it was the hardest section for me in the game as well. Once you get past it, you're able to level up some and the rest of the game was very enjoyable...

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If I remember correctly, that was the same section that was included in the demo that came with God of War Ascension. I played through that demo a couple times, so maybe that's why I didn't have any problems with it when the full game came out :lol:

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Thanks for taking the time and the explanation. I appreciate it.

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So much this!

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I am guessing it is the one-on-one fight using Ellie?

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I always play games on the easiest settings... Most times its the right balance of challenge and time spent on a game.

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I'm pretty sure it's the section in the old skyscraper where you have to use a lot of stealth. It was a major pain at that point in the game...

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Yeah, that's what I thought too.

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Mine was a few hours in. You are in a rectangular room. Exit is at the end. There is a room in the middle, hallways on both sides. Enemies in both halls, in the room and in the back hall near the exit. All stealth to get through it. Annoying.