K&AJones

Thanks for clarifying the Channeling Blood Echoes. I never played any of the Soul games so the leveling, consumables and inventory is all new to me. So I'm treading softly on some of that just finding my way in the menus.

I still need to work on combat and movement before going to far but I do want to get in the co-op...just don't want to spend the "Bell" on unnecessary areas. I'd like to get to a point where arrange a night/time to do this....probably in the Chalice Dungeon but even with a Boss and area for the fun of it. Just how many and how often do you get a "Bell"?


mhg83....did you use the Music Box at all? I read one helpful tip on when to and how to use it against Father G. Something about if you use it too much it'll trigger his transformation?

flashburn

After you use the bell three times he will then transform immediately after that. You can then use the bell one more time when he is in beast form.

Gooter

Can you experienced players please type up a brief synopsis on the weapon ratings? Each weapon is tied to a stat or stats? Meaning, the weapon will do more damage if those stats are high (up to the soft cap I assume). What about the Letters assigned to the weapon (C, D, E etc)? C is better than D and D better than E?

Thanks

dsa_shea

I had a funny thing happen to Mr. Turret. I will spoil it for those that want a surprise.

foxdvd

Yeah each stat like strength, skill, arcane will have a letter below it on the weapon...some will be empty which means you get no bonus. The rank of the letters go S-A-B-C-D ect... As you rank up your weapon it is possible that one of those will move up. So a C might become a B. The higher the rank the more of your stats are applied to the weapon. So if you have 25 strength and your weapon is ranked D on strength you might get (this is just a made up number) 10 extra damage. If that weapons rank was a B it might give you 20 damage instead.


Right now my Cane weapon has a B on the skill and a C on arcane. It is a level 6 weapon but my total damage is 235 because of the bonus damage from my high skill ranking and arcane.

foxdvd

Lol everyone gets lucky on this guy but me. My son also got this real easy..

mhg83

I tried the first two times but ended up not using it in the battle I defeated Him.

RichC2

Just got to the BSB boss and this game is starting to give me feelings of nostalgia to the first time I played Symphony of the Night. Not entirely sure why but it's definitely a good thing. Generally have to wait far further into the life a system for something like this.

mewmartigan

So I am in the Cathedral portion and all the stuff at the store has just doubled in price My insight is only at 7. Blood vials are easy to come by and silver bullets are okay but I always need to buy Molotov cocktails as I rarely ever get drops of those.

I am at level 22 I think...or 23. Maybe its time to do some echo farming to level up a bit.

RichC2

Yeah prices double a little after you beat boss 2. My two cents : you get a ton of echoes going through that area.

mhg83

It wouldn't be so bad if it was just Machine Gun Steve firing but then I have to deal with that other crazy dude that moves like he's on speed. Can I just ignore him and go for Machine Gun Steve?

RichC2

I don't know why I keep typing in spoilers, but I've come this far.

flashburn

For people putting points into strength, get the Kirkhammer. At first I was disappointed in it when I was using it as a 2 hander, it just didn't seem to do much damage compared to the starting ax. However when I switched back to 1 hand mode, holy shit, it's amazing. It's fast as hell, and every hit seems to stagger enemies. Not sure if that's the intent of it or not, but as is, it's pretty badass.

K&AJones

This is more detailed than even on the Wiki..so thank you for providing that.

By the way, why is the letter (S) even in the mix which had me confused. Why just let it be "A, B, C, D, F"

foxdvd

It is the same in Resident Evil and other games... just seems to be a Japanese thing..S is the best..so good it is better than an A...lol

foxdvd

As much as I love my threaded cane...I have a new love. Ludwig's holy blade. The small version is like the kirkhammer's sword...the large version is a huge sword that has a nice sweep attack. Damage is insane because after leveling it up it is B on all stats (and goes to A on arcane) R2 charge attack hits for about 800 damage. The stats on it right now at level 6 for me...160 base damage and 140 bonus damage from skills and runes...I do miss the range of my cane's whip but this weapon is just amazing.

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mewmartigan

okay...coldblood dew and thick coldblood.............if I use them, do I just immediately get a set amount of blood echoes? For some reason I thought they were like a timed thing...use a coldblood dew and all enemies you kill for a short time will be worth more blood echoes. I think I might be wrong in that though. So is there a reason to hold on to them? Or should I just burn them all and level up? I have quite a few because I didn't want to use them until I found a good farming spot. But like I said, I think I understand them wrong.

flashburn

Does Ludwig's stagger on every hit with the 1 hand version like the Kirkhammer does? If so I might have to try to get that next.

mhg83

Old Yharnam and that Asshole with the Machine Gun can fuck off. I had to break down and watch some videos and holy crap dude is way OP!

RichC2

I knocked him off the tower, battle was over in 20 seconds.

mhg83

Yeah I noticed in the vids you have to corner him to the edge. Dude didn't even give me a chance. I guess it's just pure luck? It doesn't help that the are is like a maze trying to get to him a PITA

RichC2

I've gotten to know that little area a little too well, it was confusing the first run, now I know it inside out.

Knocking him off was unintentional, just a powered swing of the dual hand axe

foxdvd

just use them when you need them. I sort of keep them until I am real close to getting a new skill or an item I want...you don't lose them when you die so it is sort of like banking points.

foxdvd

I never used the kirkhammer but there is a stagger with every hit with the ludwig..but the cane did as well in short form so I don't know if the kirk has more stagger or not. In short form you can stun lock most easier enemies with it though.

What I do know is I love this weapon. Honestly I don't even touch my cane anymore because this beast destroys.


I can not get over how much this game has overwhelmed me and my son. I honestly need to buy him a copy because we keep fighting over who gets to play and who can get to the next boss first. At this point I am level 59, and I still feel myself getting stronger and stronger.