PC Gaming Thread
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Actually, no, an HDMI to VGA adapter is doing way more than just "re-directing the pins". It's converting a digital HDMI signal to a VGA signal. It has a video processor built in do do so, as this image from the Amazon listing shows (as a "smart chip")

The specs show it can output 1080p/60hz, which should be enough for the existing monitor.
Noonan, you may be thinking of older DVI-A adapters, since that was just VGA with a different pinout. But that was because a DVI port could theoretically output both digital and analog signals, depending on the connector type. Graphics cards would typically have a DVI-I connector, which could connect to both DVI-A and DVI-D devices.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digita...face#Connector
HDMI and DisplayPort, however, are fully digital, so any adapter for VGA has to actually convert the signal. However, electronics has progressed to the point where little chips in the adapter, powered by the power coming from the port, can do the job fairly easily.

The specs show it can output 1080p/60hz, which should be enough for the existing monitor.
Noonan, you may be thinking of older DVI-A adapters, since that was just VGA with a different pinout. But that was because a DVI port could theoretically output both digital and analog signals, depending on the connector type. Graphics cards would typically have a DVI-I connector, which could connect to both DVI-A and DVI-D devices.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digita...face#Connector
HDMI and DisplayPort, however, are fully digital, so any adapter for VGA has to actually convert the signal. However, electronics has progressed to the point where little chips in the adapter, powered by the power coming from the port, can do the job fairly easily.
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lwhy? (01-04-23)
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OK, I found the specs for the Tower, and it says that the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER it comes with has:
https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys...6AMR5_Spec.pdf
So you could, theoretically, plug in a DVI to VGA adapter.
It adds in potential compatibility issues, since DVI has different, incompatible pin configurations. Based on what I can find, such as this video at the 4:48 mark, the 1660 Super that comes with the Lenovo has a 24+1 pin DVI port:
So based on that, this DVI-to-VGA adapter for $3.59 should work:
Just don't get a 24+5 pin DVI adapter, that won't work with your card.
If you get the DVI-to-VGA adapter, you could keep using your existing monitor even when you get a new monitor, and have a dual-monitor setup, or even potentially a triple-monitor setup down the line. Just keep in mind the more monitors you're running at the time, the lower resolution/framerate you'll be able to run any single monitor at, although a 1080p/60hz monitor isn't going to really stress the card.
Edit: Now that I've checked back with the Wikipedia article, the "24+1 pin" configuration some adapters mention is the pinout for "DVI-D (Dual Link)," while "24+5" is for DVI-A, since the 4 extra pins are all analog signal. So the GTX 1660 Super card is digital-only on all 3 ports, and the adapter I linked to is doing the same digital-to-analog conversion as the HDMI-to-VGA adapter, and is likely just cheaper due to DVI adapters not being in as high demand anymore. It's still probably the better option, not just for being cheaper, but keeping the HDMI and DP ports free, but either way you're not getting analog from the card, and are thus limited by the limitations of the processor in the adapter (which, at least for the DVI adapter, are close to the limits of the interface anyway).
- 1x DVI,
- 1x HDMI 2.0b,
- 1x DP 1.4
https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys...6AMR5_Spec.pdf
So you could, theoretically, plug in a DVI to VGA adapter.
It adds in potential compatibility issues, since DVI has different, incompatible pin configurations. Based on what I can find, such as this video at the 4:48 mark, the 1660 Super that comes with the Lenovo has a 24+1 pin DVI port:
So based on that, this DVI-to-VGA adapter for $3.59 should work:
Just don't get a 24+5 pin DVI adapter, that won't work with your card.
If you get the DVI-to-VGA adapter, you could keep using your existing monitor even when you get a new monitor, and have a dual-monitor setup, or even potentially a triple-monitor setup down the line. Just keep in mind the more monitors you're running at the time, the lower resolution/framerate you'll be able to run any single monitor at, although a 1080p/60hz monitor isn't going to really stress the card.
Edit: Now that I've checked back with the Wikipedia article, the "24+1 pin" configuration some adapters mention is the pinout for "DVI-D (Dual Link)," while "24+5" is for DVI-A, since the 4 extra pins are all analog signal. So the GTX 1660 Super card is digital-only on all 3 ports, and the adapter I linked to is doing the same digital-to-analog conversion as the HDMI-to-VGA adapter, and is likely just cheaper due to DVI adapters not being in as high demand anymore. It's still probably the better option, not just for being cheaper, but keeping the HDMI and DP ports free, but either way you're not getting analog from the card, and are thus limited by the limitations of the processor in the adapter (which, at least for the DVI adapter, are close to the limits of the interface anyway).
Last edited by Jay G.; 01-04-23 at 01:14 PM.
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Looks like that's just the way they are mounted: https://www.google.com/search?q=leno...KHUpDjyk-VvFhM
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Looks like that's just the way they are mounted: https://www.google.com/search?q=leno...KHUpDjyk-VvFhM
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My main complaint so far is that the USB ports on the top of the desktop are hard to get my flash drives into. I've been using two Samsung flash drives to transfer files. You have to press them down to get them to connect and it's already scratched them. I didn't have any problems with them on my old pc.
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I don't know about that so-called...CPU Cooler....I've never seen anything like that mounted like that.....I'd recommend something from Cooler Master, ID-Cooling, Noctua, Be-Quiet but not sure how the mounting holes would work or not.....
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The adapter came in the mail and I was able to get my monitor hooked up. Everything is working well. I've been playing Dave The Diver most of the day.
Thanks for all the help with picking out the computer and getting it set it up. I'm really happy with my purchase. I'm going to wait until I get my tax refund before I buy a new monitor and an Xbox controller
Thanks for all the help with picking out the computer and getting it set it up. I'm really happy with my purchase. I'm going to wait until I get my tax refund before I buy a new monitor and an Xbox controller
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Dave the Diver looks fun, I want to check that one out one day.
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Feb 15th. Great fucking game. That is all.
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This series was IT back in it's heyday and you basically played this or Quake or both.....apparentlly it along with several other Unreal Games are being sent off to the sunset. It's really sad because it was truly a outstanding series to play. At one time it looked like it was going to make a comeback but some weird new cell-shaded game came along....Fortnite....that shocked the Gaming World and Epic put it front & center and put Unreal Tournament on the shelf....a good read for those that remember....
Unreal Tournament Deserves Better From Epic
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A Killtrocity Of The Worst Kind.
Unreal Tournament Deserves Better From Epic (dualshockers.com)
Unreal Tournament Deserves Better From Epic
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A Killtrocity Of The Worst Kind.
Unreal Tournament Deserves Better From Epic (dualshockers.com)
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Tl;Dr: UT 1 - 3 are being pulled offline and replaced with Unreal Tournament 3X which is a free to play title.
It's undoubtedly the worst entry, but they can technically fix that pretty easily.
It's undoubtedly the worst entry, but they can technically fix that pretty easily.
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I got UT3 for the XBox 360 and for me I actually liked it and had fun. I think at the time the rip was some of it was a bit too close to Gears of War and some saw it a rip-off. I posted a video on the XBox Series x topic of someone actually playing this title...13yrs old...on a XBox Series X which frankly didn't look bad at all, not going to win any Visual Awards but it's playable and even still in the XBox Store for $10....