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Old 11-12-17, 12:36 PM   #8251
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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

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Who the fuck buys every single revision of every console?
I know plenty of people that buy every console, when they were released in generations. That's the point. Now they won't.


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If you don't like the games on the Xbox, then go play the games on the system you do like.
Taking video games pretty personal? I have both Xbox and PS. What games I like has nothing to do with the fact that the Xbox isn't exactly brimming with exclusives.

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Old 11-12-17, 12:52 PM   #8252
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I know some people really hate the idea of mid-generation refreshes, but I'm not sure how a brand new console 3-4 years would be any better since it leaves people who bought the previous console in the dust in just a few years. I like the idea of a generational upgrade that is optional while keeping compatibility since it gives consumers more options without completely screwing over early adopters.

Also, are you counting the Xbox One S as an additional console? That seems weird, even though they added the UHD player and some small performance changes. That would be like counting the "slim" PS4 as a new console as well to me.
Pick your poison. New system every so often or finding out the one you previously bought has been released again with better specs. Their is a reason the PC/console divide is what it is. I built a 5K computer back in 2013 and have no desire to go back to upgrading the $700 GPU every 2 years. A new bleeding edge console every 4-5 years sounds much better to me.

The PS slim played games exactly the same as the fatter machines released at launch. (Not forgetting the removal of hardware BC.) I didn't count it as a new console. Now, the S and X are both technologically different from the original.
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Old 11-12-17, 12:57 PM   #8253
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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

Not personal at all... just don't know why you would come in here and put down the systems with a bunch of garbage that others have already commented on.
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Old 11-12-17, 02:55 PM   #8254
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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

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Pick your poison. New system every so often or finding out the one you previously bought has been released again with better specs. Their is a reason the PC/console divide is what it is. I built a 5K computer back in 2013 and have no desire to go back to upgrading the $700 GPU every 2 years. A new bleeding edge console every 4-5 years sounds much better to me.
Except no one is forcing you to have the latest and greatest, especially when you can play all the same games just fine. I'm not sure what PC/Console divide you're referring to, but as someone that's also a PC gamer, no one really needs to buy a $700 GPU every 2 years; my $350 GTX 970 from 3 years ago still works just fine on my 1440P monitor, as does my regular PS4 or even original Xbox One. Just fight the desire to have the best and it doesn't hurt you

I imagine there will still be a "new" console generation in 2-3 years, all these mid-generation upgrades do is extend the life of the existing generation a little bit longer in a market where games take longer and are more costly to make. Seems to me that if someone doesn't like that type of product cycle, it's easy enough to ignore and wait for the "real" next generation of consoles that will probably come as part of the typical 6-7 year console cycle.

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The PS slim played games exactly the same as the fatter machines released at launch. (Not forgetting the removal of hardware BC.) I didn't count it as a new console. Now, the S and X are both technologically different from the original.
The S plays games basically the same as the fatter machines either, I don't consider the differences significant enough to distinguish it as a separate console that someone with an original Xbox One would want to upgrade to from a game perspective. Only UHD, really.
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Old 11-12-17, 02:58 PM   #8255
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Didn't the One S also implement HDR? I'm pretty sure the regular One didn't have that firmware update, just the baseline PS4 did.
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Old 11-12-17, 03:03 PM   #8256
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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

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Didn't the One S also implement HDR?
Yeah, you could play games like Forza Horizon 3 with HDR on the S but not on the launch XB1, and its CPU is very slightly faster. At the same time, I think that's what fumanstan means by 'basically the same' and the differences not being that significant. I bought an S out of necessity (the optical drive on my launch XB1 died), but I wouldn't have found those features compelling enough to warrant an upgrade otherwise.
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Old 11-12-17, 06:59 PM   #8257
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Based on that, I would say the One X is the third "console" for MS in this generation then. HDR and a UHD drive is a significant improvement over the base version. Whereas the PS slim was just that, a slimmer version of their base console. So I would say Sony has two consoles for this generation. At the end of the day I'm not sure it really matters though, and would even give MS props for mentioning the Scorpio at the end of their E3 conference last year, that way people were not blind sided by the announcement later if they just bought the One S.
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Old 11-12-17, 07:04 PM   #8258
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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

No interest in the X.

I'm perfectly happy with the S, which I got last year. It more than satisfies my gaming needs for this generation.

2 console upgrades in the 4 years the One has been in existence is crazy and anyone who keeps upgrading with every new console is crazy.
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Old 11-12-17, 07:32 PM   #8259
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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

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Now, the S and X are both technologically different from the original.
The S was the normal redesign of a console after its been on the market for a few years. We've seen it with pretty much every generation at this point.

To implement HDR and 4K playback, Microsoft were able to overclock the power on the CPU/GPU allowing for a whopping upgrade performance of 7%. They were also able to cut the price due to the fact the hardware in the Xbox One is a fraction of what it was costing to assemble in 2014.

The S is literally the same hardware as the original console with the exception of the 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray drive and some minor tweaks under the hood. Microsoft never told customers to replace their Xbox One with the Xbox One S because they literally announced Project Scorpio a month prior to the One S announcement (Project Scorpio: E3 2016, One S announcement: July 2016).

I don't consider 4K/HDR to call a device "technologically different" when there were no "dramatic" changes to the SOC.
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Old 11-12-17, 07:54 PM   #8260
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The S shouldn't be considered a new console... it was simply a console refresh due to very minor upgrades. There was no real improvement to games.

Looking at all the reviews along with the DigitalFoundry comparisons (as well as other sites), I have to say the X is a beast. It really does feel like you're getting a gaming PC for the living room. I'm impressed.
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Old 11-13-17, 08:30 PM   #8261
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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

If any Xbox owners also own a Galaxy S6, 7 or 8, you can use Samsung Pay app and get a $50 Xbox card for $40 (20% savings). May buy up to 2 a day and up to $500 total purchase with the discount. Nice deal, and you get the online code almost instantly in your email.
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Since there does not appear to be a Forza 7 thread (that I could find), there's a code for some in game content from Totino's pizza:

RFXF-GRFR-PXMR

You have to go forza.totinos.com to redeem it. If you use it, just post that you did so people aren't trying for it. Thx.
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^ Taken by a lurker.

Also game isn't very good.
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Yep, already taken, or the code is wrong...

The game is good, just a little different from 6.

But I still prefer the Horizon series.
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Looking at all the reviews along with the DigitalFoundry comparisons (as well as other sites), I have to say the X is a beast. It really does feel like you're getting a gaming PC for the living room. I'm impressed.
Unlike in 2014, I feel Microsoft was able to gauge the reaction of the PS4 Pro both prior and after launch in order not to repeat reactions from the community and the developers.

PS4 Pro utilized a GPU that was 2x faster than what's currently in the PS4 and added a whopping 1GB of RAM to help with background tasks. In addition, they made it a pain in the ass for developers to code for both the PS4 and PS4 Pro. The community was disappointed by the lack of upgrades to the console (specifically 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray playback) and the fact it seemed rushed to market.

The Xbox One X utilizes a GPU that's nearly 5x faster than what was in the Xbox One/One S, increased the RAM to 12GB (with 9GB dedicated specifically to gaming) by ditching DDR3 and eSRAM by going the route of GDDR5, and made the developers kit extremely easy to code for that they could port a game with Xbox One X enhancements within hours. Besides the other enhancements to the console, the Xbox One X showed that Phil Spencer and company are not fucking around when it comes to the Xbox brand from here on out.

The downside to the Xbox One X, which the PS4 Pro also shares, is the utilization of the same AMD Jaguar CPU found in the past models of their respective consoles. It's what holds the machines back from achieving insane power, but I assume both Microsoft and Sony will resolve that in the next generation.
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^ Taken by a lurker.

Also game isn't very good.
Which is why I usually post to see who wants it then PM the code. Fuckers
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I'll take it!
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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

Kalimba is on GWG in Japan. I was able to log in and grab it for free just now.

https://www.microsoft.com/ja-JP/stor...1D8B4H2B?rtc=1
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I love the translation

If you choose OK, you agree with the store's terms of sale .

Cancel or Roger that
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Kalimba is on GWG in Japan. I was able to log in and grab it for free just now.

https://www.microsoft.com/ja-JP/stor...1D8B4H2B?rtc=1
Thanks Dan, didn't even have to switch countries or something equally annoying. Now...WTF is this game about?
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Ha! I had no idea either, so I looked it up. Turns out it's made by the same studio that made Max: The Curse of Brotherhood. That was a really fun little game, so I think I'll actually check out Kalimba sooner than later. My only concern is that it looks like it's multiplayer only, based on my interpretation of the trailer, but I don't know if that's true. Hopefully not.
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^ It is single player, but you control two characters at once.
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https://www.xboxachievements.com/new...afe-Mode-.html

Frictional Games has announced that its soggy sci-fi survival horror game SOMA will be coming to Xbox One in a couple of weeks, complete with a new optional Safe Mode that enables you to explore the game's story without fear of being torn to shreds by the monsters that lurk within its creaking, dark corridors.

Critically acclaimed upon its release for PlayStation 4 and PC in 2015, SOMA explores existential themes as you strive to escape from underwater facility PATHOS-II. All alone, you'll face questions surrounding the idea of identity, consciousness and "what it means to be human".

SOMA will be making its way to Xbox One, two years after the game's release on PS4 and PC, on 1st December 2017 for $29.99/£23.99. SOMA is available to pre-order via the Xbox Store now and you can check out a teaser trailer for the Xbox One version of the game below.

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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

I've gone on a bit of a spree with the new Black Friday deals, thanks to getting an additional 20% off with Samsung Pay ($50 Gift Cards for $40).

So far I've gotten :

Wolfenstien II Deluxe Edtion
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Life Is Strange : Before the Storm Deluxe Edition
Minecraft Story Mode Season 2
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Wow, that's a lot for a couple of days. I told my kids (who played Batman, Minecraft and Life is Strange episodic seasons with me) that they would have to wait for a sale before I got the next season. Time to pay the piper. I asked my daughter if she wanted Before The Storm and she said "Hella Yes!".
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