mattysemo247

Yep, sorry about that. I fixed it. If it came with a 1TB SSD, it would come with a $999 price tag

RichC2

True, though the Crucial 960gb SSD did finally dip below $300 a few weeks ago.

Dan

No need to apologize. And yeah, the price would be ridiculous. I'd guess $899. I do wonder if performance could be drastically improved with an SSD inside for the Xbox OS and another SSD plugged in via USB for all the game data. I know when the console first came out, people stuck an SSD inside and found it to be marginally faster (unlike a computer, where SSD makes a huge difference, IMO), but some thought it might be because of how the OS is setup. With the change to Windows 10 in a few months, trying an SSD again isn't a bad idea.

MoviePage

The Forza 6 demo is up for download, not that you'd know it from the Home screen, the Store, the website, or anywhere else that matters. 12.67 GB.

Mike86

That's pretty cool. I might get one of those eventually when I pick up an external drive.

BeanDip0001

I've used a few different drives with mine. The difference between daily use of the thing with a 1TB Samsung 3D/3D 850 pro SSD, a WD 6TB My Book and an 8TB My Book, and an Intel 750 1.2TB SSD well you guessed it, it'd be a waste of money to put an SSD on the thing and use it unless you have the attention span of a 4 year old. A lot has to do with the interface itself. You could hook a rocket up to USB 3, but you'll still bottle neck. As for replacing the internal disk with an SSD, I can't be bothered it's just a game console. I have no idea who thought it was a good idea to ship with such a small hard disk, but I'd like to meet them so I could beat them over the head with my XBox controller and say bad bad you bad.

Matthew Chmiel

Both the PS4 and Xbox One should've shipped with 1TB drives at launch; either 7200-rpm or SSHD. Its nice to see Microsoft throw in a 1TB SSHD, but its too late in the game.

Based upon the hardware these consoles use, SSDs are waste of money for both internal and external options.

Jay G.

Borderlands has been added to Backwards Compatibility today. DLC reportedly works for it, although to what extent it isn't clear.
http://majornelson.com/2015/09/03/bo...compatibility/

chuckd21

I love that the demo is mentioned 5 different places INSIDE THE FORZA APP and there's no way to get to it.

kgrogers1979

It's not really surprising that the PS4/XO launched with smaller hard drives if you paid attention to the last generation. The PS3/360 launched with small hard drives (only 20 GB!!) and got a newer model almost every year with a larger hard drive. It is basically a way for them to keep costs down. As hard drives get cheaper per GB, then they can add larger hard drives without increasing their own costs.

gerrythedon

Forza Motorsport 6 on Xbox One
9.0
AMAZING

Forza Motorsport 6 boasts some of the finest racing you can find on console. Easily worth the upgrade

+Incredibly varied car roster
+Wet weather is impressive
+Rock-solid racing
+Returning players are well rewarded

– Baked-in track conditions


http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/09/...paign=Blogroll

chuckd21

Wait, baked-in is a negative? The hell?

slop101

Yeah, but the games in the previous gen didn't have to load the entire game off the disc onto the machine's HD like they do now. And you have the huge patches which used to be a fraction of the size they are now.

kgrogers1979

The point was that the last gen consoles launched with pitifully small hard drives too. They had 20 GB hard drives at launch, which was pitifully small in 2005-2006. I had a 20 GB hard drive on my PC in 2000-2001.

It's about the costs, like I said. Consoles are very cheap (compared to gaming PCs). Consoles are cheap precisely because they use cheaper tech. If you want better and more expensive tech, then get a gaming PC, not a console. As tech gets cheaper (i.e. as hard drives increase in size the cost per GB ratio decreases) then the console companies can add a larger hard drive model without increasing their costs. (A 1 GB hard drive is cheaper now than it was 2 years ago when these consoles launched.) That is what it is all about is keeping their costs low.

pinata242

I know nothing nor care anything about cars and their abilities to race for slips of any color, pink or otherwise, but I can see how it would be super boring to only race on a particular track if it's always exactly 76 degrees and partly cloudy at 2:30 GMT on April 5th.

Adam Tyner

On the other hand, I had tons of patches, saved games, and DLC last gen, and I never ran out of space, even though I bought into the 360 on day one and the PS3 with its first price drop. (...although the YLOD on my fat PS3 forced me to move up to a 60 gig console.) I've had to do Spring cleaning on both the Xbox One and PS4 in a year and a half, something that I didn't have to do during the entirety of last gen.

The motivation behind having smaller hard drives may be similar, but it's not apples to apples. 500 gigs isn't just small; it's woefully inadequate.

slop101

Yeah, after 6 years, I never ran out of space on my 360 or PS3 - I ran out of space on my PS4 within 6 months.

davidh777

I ran out of 360 space when the Games with Gold started piling up so I started downloading them only when I knew I was going to play them.

But I agree that current games plus patches and add-on content are huge. I just added a portable hard drive so I could stop deleting stuff from the console I got for Christmas.

kgrogers1979

I remember the good old days when fully installing a CD-ROM game (not DVD but CD) was considered huge. I remember Fallout 1 and 2 had a warning in all caps HUMONGOUS INSTALLATION for a 625 MB install.

fumanstan

Yeah, that's the big difference this gen. 500 GB would have been fine if there weren't mandatory installs.

The small hard drive sizes that launched with the 360 and PS3 weren't too big of a deal because they were largely just for saved games and small arcade titles that had size limits, and I don't think people predicted digital titles to succeed as much as they did.

If anyone watched that whole 3 generations of XBox leads on IGN, it came up as something that the 360 might not have even included too even though the original XBox had one. The market was different then and has continued to change.

Music

2 years later and people are still debating the hard drive size?

I ran out of space on my PS3 even after I put in a bigger hard drive.

I ran out of space on my 360 and had to use multiple USB thumb sticks even after upgrading the drive to 250GB.

Why they waited so long to allow an external drive with good size, I'll never know.

Brack

I bought a 4TB external hard drive around a year ago. If the console came with a big hard drive, the cost of the console would probably be even more overpriced. Now if Sony got their act together, I'd be happy, because I'm not sure 2 TB is enough for the PS4 lifecycle. And I don't want to delete any games unless they are freebies and godawful.

Michael Corvin

Not sure how MS does it these days on the X1 but you have a library on the PS4 so you can delete all you want and still have access to them. As soon as I finish something I delete it. All the freebies are good for a playthrough, if that, no reason for them to take up space. And I did add 2TB and still delete them. No need to be a digital hoarder anymore, there are too many free/discounted/mediocre games. If I have an itch to run through one again, I'll re-download it.

DVDGamer

Games you get for free while on Gold, will only be free while on gold subscription. Once it lapses and you're not renewed currently, so goes your ability to play those games. So I've learned to just delete the free games after checking them out to free space for other games.

fumanstan

I just delete the games i'm not playing on XBox too, so the original 500 GB drive has been ok for me although it's getting close to maxing out.