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chess 11-17-13 11:34 AM

Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
Warframe Wiki: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/WARFRAME_Wiki

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/9fNLhVpBrBM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

The same guy does videos for most of the Warframes and some of the weapons and sentinels HERE.

Note that the game his its own friends list separate from PSN, so you'll have to send friend invites to fellow DVD Talkers in-game.

chess 11-17-13 11:37 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 11912389)
Warframe is pretty sick. My only complaint really is the camera and the melee combat being nearly impossible. The game just needs some polish.

To equip the Orokin Reactor/Catalyst go to the upgrade screen for your Warframe or weapon, and then press R2. If you've already spent all your platinum, I'd suggest just buying a small amount to get the Orokin items, going without them sucks. As a refresher for others, they double the amount of skill points available to use for that specific Warframe/weapon.

Is there a Warframe thread? We should probably just post in there if so.

So I used 40 of my last 50 platinum on the 2 orokin items. Thanks again for the tip.

There isn't an R2 option in the upgrade screen, but it does look like they equipped automatically, because they are at the top of the screen along with another grayed out item that I apparently don't have.

I also bought a Volt because he looked fun and I bought a sentinel, but apparently the wrong one.

As far as the melee, I'm mostly playing it as a shooter unless ammo becomes an issue.

flashburn 11-17-13 11:41 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
Orokin Reactors and Catalysts. There is another Orokin item that's used for crafting, but you can find it as a drop as well. Don't buy this one.

The only other way to get the Reactors and Catalysts is from "Alert" missions, occasionally. You won't see any "Alert" missions until you unlock more levels probably.

Yeah, you shouldn't of bought a Sentinel, you'll get a BP for one soon enough.

The other things you want to buy are slots for weapons and warframes. The only way to get more slots is by spending Platinum.

I'm really shocked at how little of a paywall (pay hump?) this game has.

flashburn 11-17-13 11:42 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
Protip: For Survival mission you only need to last 5 minutes. You should slowly make your way to the exit the entire time, but then when there's about a minute left, haul ass to the exit. You can stick around and shit gets tougher and drops get better, but you will probably die.

flashburn 11-17-13 11:46 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
Transmute: Turns 4 unwanted upgrades into a random one. Different chances on getting a different rarity level dependent on the rarity of the combined upgrades. I did it once, and it didn't seem worth it, cost a lot of credits.

Fusion: Upgrade a selected upgrade by "fusing" other upgrades. This increases the amount of skill points needed to use however. You can also use Fusion Cores (don't sell these!). Fusing an upgrade of the same type is much more efficient than just picking whatever.

flashburn 11-17-13 11:47 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
Warframe Wiki: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/WARFRAME_Wiki

chess 11-17-13 12:09 PM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
I just started fusing last night, and I built a sword in the foundry.

It looks like a want to spend my credits on blueprints. That about right? Any particular guns I should be blueprinting?

I bought the vacuum sentinel, and he's not terrible. In theory he sucks up loot without me having to walk over it, which sounded appealing but doesn't seem to be all that effective. He also has a nice little shotgun blast if anybody gets too close to me. I bought the blueprints for dethcube, which is the one I should have gotten in the first place.

Also sent you a friend request in game.

flashburn 11-17-13 12:24 PM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
Yeah, I think so. Get the Braton (not the MK-1 you start with). It's a really solid gun, and you can easily use it until you find a drop.

I crafted a sword from a BP drop last night as well, pretty cool. I think there's a pistol you can buy for around 25,000 credits, so I'll probably just do that too.

chess 11-17-13 12:55 PM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
Shit. I used my orokin thingie on my starter pistol thinking I could unequip it. Doesn't seem to be the case.

flashburn 11-17-13 01:12 PM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
Doh, that sucks. Well, I guess you could always buy some more platinum. I don't remember what it costs, maybe $10 for 500?

chess 11-17-13 10:46 PM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 11912730)
Doh, that sucks. Well, I guess you could always buy some more platinum. I don't remember what it costs, maybe $10 for 500?

I'll probably buy some at some point, but I want to make sure I fully understand everything this time. That really bummed me out.

I freaking love this game...for a lot of the same reasons I like Borderlands so much. I dumped $80 in Borderlands 2, so I should probably buy some platinum at some point just on principle.

I got a Rhino blueprint drop tonight, and I had everything I needed to build him. :banana:

Groucho 11-17-13 10:55 PM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
Sorry for not knowing the terminology...

How come the cost of power-ups changes when I put them on my toon? For example, I had a card that had a cost of 2 but when I dropped on my dude the cost changed to 1?

Hope this question makes sense...

chess 11-17-13 10:58 PM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 11913503)
Sorry for not knowing the terminology...

How come the cost of power-ups changes when I put them on my toon? For example, I had a card that had a cost of 2 but when I dropped on my dude the cost changed to 1?

Hope this question makes sense...

I hope this answer makes sense...

If the slot you're putting a power up in has the same symbol as the card, it only uses half the energy.

Just don't ask me what the symbols mean or what "polarity" is about. :lol:

flashburn 11-18-13 04:51 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
Yep, that's basically all there is to it. Match the symbol, and it costs half. If you mismatch the symbol, it costs 1 more I believe.

Groucho 11-18-13 08:13 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
It won't even let me mismatch symbols I think.

flashburn 11-18-13 08:20 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 11913703)
It won't even let me mismatch symbols I think.

You probably don't have enough energy (or skill points, whatever its called) then. Unless it's an Aura, those specifically need an Aura slot.

K&AJones 11-18-13 08:44 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
Posted over at the PS4 topic but I really need to get in a game with Chess and Flashburn. I only did the install, the pre-order add-on and did the first part where you choose a character...no world mission. Probably not tonight but Tuesday looks good.

chess 11-18-13 09:17 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Originally Posted by K&AJones (Post 11913742)
Posted over at the PS4 topic but I really need to get in a game with Chess and Flashburn. I only did the install, the pre-order add-on and did the first part where you choose a character...no world mission. Probably not tonight but Tuesday looks good.

Sure thing. I'll probably be on Tuesday night. Just remember that you have to send an in-game friend request, and it's probably best to set up party chat outside of the game, because it's still prone to occasional network oddities.

I'm really loving the game. My take is that if you like the chaos of a good fight in Borderlands, you will love Warframe. It's grindy, but in a way that's always fun, and the loot drops are usually worth checking out, where that's not always the case in Borderlands or Diablo.

My only issue thus far is that the gameplay is pretty easy to figure out, but I've absolutely stumbled through the crafting and menu navigation, and I've wasted a good amount of platinum in the process. I bought a "Volt" frame because he looked fun (and he is), but I could have just bought the blueprint for in-game currency and built him. Same for my sentinel. And I wasted that Orokin thing on my starter pistol not realizing that it was permenantly attached. That kind of stuff is frustrating, but maybe others can learn from my mistakes. I guess I'd recommend using your bonus platinum on an extra Warframe slot and the Orokin items (but save those for when you get that special gun).

Flashburn is absolutely correct that the paywall, if any, isn't exactly prominent. I'm probably 8-10 hours in, and everything I've bought with platinum was either a result of me not knowing what I was doing or was something I could have waited for. I've also found that some of the things I found clumsy about the controls initially have become really rewarding as I've grown accustomed to them. I'm starting to get the wall runs and sliding moves down, and you feel like a badass when you pull them off.

K&AJones 11-18-13 09:40 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
thanks for all the info. When I did the first part it gave me which "Warframe" to choose. Not really knowing much I chose the one on the right...something about taking down shields and such. I'll need to look at that video you posted on the basics again so not to get in the game blindly. Looking forward to this...now to find time to continue ith Killzone and Resogun not to mention my BF4 copy comes in the next few days....good grief...and I still haven't popped in Knack!

chess 11-18-13 10:04 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
Updated OP with wiki link, basics video and link to other videos.

Groucho 11-18-13 10:15 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
Thanks, chess. The tutorial for this game is fine, but there's a lot of complicated concepts they don't explain at all...like upgrades. Also, on my first mission it asked me if I wanted to revive or quit. Well, of course I want to revive! Later on I realized that those revives are bought with platinum. Oops.

chess 11-18-13 10:19 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
Each Warframe has the power to self-revive 4 times every 24 hours

Groucho 11-18-13 10:20 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
Oh! Cool. I don't think I'll ever exceed that.

This is why games need to spend more time and effort on easing players in. I imagine a lot of people get turned off by the complexity of this game and don't ever progress far.

flashburn 11-18-13 11:04 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
Are you sure its on a 24 hour cycle for revives? It seemed like less than that to me.

I agree that the game doesn't do a good job of introducing itself to new players. However, once you fight through the oddities, it's a pretty rewarding experience.

I absolutely love the CCG style mods system.

I'd probably be down with playing a game on Tuesday night (depending on the time). If you see me on, send me an invite.

chess 11-18-13 11:07 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 11913885)
Oh! Cool. I don't think I'll ever exceed that.

This is why games need to spend more time and effort on easing players in. I imagine a lot of people get turned off by the complexity of this game and don't ever progress far.

Yeah, I agree, and just so you know, I had to look that up. I knew my revives had reappeared, but I wasn't sure how! :lol:

Warframe definitely throws you in the deep end of the pool...not in terms of the game itself, which is pretty straighforward shoot and slash, but rather in terms of the metagame of building, crafting, combining, etc.

I watched the video in the OP before playing, but I didn't REALLY WATCH the video like I should have. Now that I have context and have made some mistakes, that tutorial makes a lot more sense.

chess 11-18-13 11:13 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 11913951)
Are you sure its on a 24 hour cycle for revives? It seemed like less than that to me.

I agree that the game doesn't do a good job of introducing itself to new players. However, once you fight through the oddities, it's a pretty rewarding experience.

The 4-revives thing is from the Warframe page...or at least in the google description when I searched. Can't get there from work. :)

I really love the game, and I think I'm going to spend my $10 PSN credit on platinum...maybe even a little more. It's one of those games that gets better and better the more you play it. It's good for all the reasons that I think Destiny will be good, and it actually feels like a low rent version of what Destiny will eventually be.


I'd probably be down with playing a game on Tuesday night (depending on the time). If you see me on, send me an invite.
I sent you an in-game friend request (and one on PSN as well). It seems to me that if we had a group of 6-10 people who played regularly, we could probably put together a squad of 3-4 pretty easily on any given night. I could see me playing this regularly for quite a while...maybe leveling up multiple Warframes even.

Groucho 11-18-13 12:06 PM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
How does this game handle Warframes of different levels playing together?

chess 11-18-13 12:11 PM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
As far as I can tell, it doesn't care, except that somebody in the lobby has to have access to whatever level you're trying to get into.

Two things we haven't really touched on:

- Levels are procedurally generated. They seem to have a large framwork for each world, and the engine chooses a path to the objective procedurally, so it's slightly different every time.
- The touchpad for casting spells is pretty good. I'd probably pick the d-pad given the option, but when your character is throwing a projectile spell and you swipe up to do that, it feels pretty great.

flashburn 11-18-13 12:37 PM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
Oh yeah, the game has it's own friends list eh? Okay, that's kind of stupid, but whatever.

I forgot about the $10 PSN credit. I've been itching to use it on something, so I might spend it on Platinum too.

flashburn 11-18-13 06:20 PM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
This game has been nothing but a buggy fucker for me tonight. Twice now we've basically completed a mission with it not giving credit and basically failing. It's the mission where you need to pick up some datapods and carry them to extraction. Holy buggy shit.

flashburn 11-18-13 06:35 PM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
As much as I hate to say it, fuck this game, for now. This mission has bugged out for us in different ways three times so far. I'm juts going to wait for a patch I guess. What a waste of fucking time tonight was. Ugh.

edit: WTF after standing at the extraction point it finally decided to end the mission saying we completed it. Then we go to a black screen where we can run around and shoot (and die)... forever. FUCK YOU DIGITAL EXTREMES!

I can't even abort the mission because it says I've already completed it! Wow.

chess 11-18-13 10:52 PM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
I find that the bugginess is directly related to the connections of the people you are playing with. I've had a round or two with choppy frame rate, one where I was sort of invincible because of lag, and one with the black screen thing you describe. I solved that by switching to another game and then switching back.

But otherwise it's been pretty smooth sailing in 10-11 hours of play. And I made it through Earth tonight, so I can farm a ton of new materials. My only disappointment tonight was that I thought I had a Rhino blueprint, but it was only the chassis. Still a way to go on that.

And my dual pistols now do fire, ice and electrical damage. It's kind of comical watching enemies freeze and burn and twitch at the same time.

K&AJones 11-19-13 06:51 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
I'll be on around 7:30 central tonight and will see what happens. Still need to check the "basics' on the game. As Chess said it could be others connections. Shouldn't be the servers on Warframe end but then again...considering there is million PS4 owners and just a handful of games. Interested to know how many have DL Warframe.

Looking around on the net i found this site that seems to have a lot on there.....http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/WARFRAME_Wiki

After seeing the "Crash Course" video this game is far more deeper than I thought. The upgrade/inventory actually reminds me of Diablo III...as you need "Crafting Plans" along with the items...helmet, vest, boots, gloves, etc...to forge a set. Of course you have to find everything which is random.

K&AJones 11-20-13 07:22 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
Played last night the first two missions solo. Pretty impressive visual wise and game play overall was good. As flashburn noted the game needs a bit polish in certain areas like...

Melee Combat...hate to say but the worse part of playing. How the camera goes from simple and steady when shooting to spasmatic when using the sword is beyond me. I died a couple of times enough though I swung several times....My fix was using the Charged Attack (one swing) and doing Stealth Kills.

Help Menu...what help menu? Several times in the game I didn't have a clue like capturing a person. It took 5-7 minutes to figure that out. And understanding how to use the Mods...better to find the info online.

Map...if there is way to call up a bigger map than he tiny one in the upper left let me know.

Positives...
FTP...least we forget it is with option pay to upgrade. The game makes some of the Free XBL Gold games look like 8-Bit has beens.
Lots of potential with a great deal of customization. Looks like you really have lots of possibilities here. maybe not like say in Diablo III with individual items , gems, crafting but close.
Solo and Co-op...can play both but the lure is co-op...hint Chess and Flashburn...but you need to get a few missions under your belt or at least I do to feel more comfortable going along with others.

flashburn 11-20-13 07:55 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
Apparently one of the daily login rewards is a % discount off of Platinum, but I'm not sure if this applies to the PS4 version, since I think you need to buy the packs from the store. If they do a sale (Black Friday? Haha) on Platinum, I'll definitely spend at least my $10 credit, but maybe more.

chess 11-20-13 07:56 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
K&A, I actually sent you a party chat invite and an in-game friend request last night.

Was going to give you the tour.

As you get more nimble with the parkour stuff, and you will if you keep playing, the camera starts to make more sense.

flashburn 11-20-13 07:58 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
Apparently this pack was on sale for $50 a little while ago on PC:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/238482/

But I don't think it exists on PS4. I'd totally buy that for $50 though.

flashburn 11-20-13 08:01 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
K&A (and anyone else), buy the better Burston gun immediately. The MK1 is a POS and you'll wind up sticking with the regular Burston for quite a while. It's a huge upgrade.

I'd also buy one of the 20-25K Pistols as well.

flashburn 11-20-13 08:02 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 
Apparently the Soma is an awesome gun too.

K&AJones 11-20-13 08:23 AM

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Originally Posted by chess (Post 11916636)
K&A, I actually sent you a party chat invite and an in-game friend request last night.

Was going to give you the tour.

As you get more nimble with the parkour stuff, and you will if you keep playing, the camera starts to make more sense.

Man...I'm sorry...I did see something flash up on the screen while in the middle of combat and bunch of crap going on. I thought it was and hit the "options" but I'm totally unclear on how to accept, get or initialize any messages while in game. With XBL it's easy and I'm use to that...with PSN, a little lost. So I apologize...wasn't ignoring you and yea a "tour" might be helpful.

Not tonight..it's back to the 360 with my Diablo III co-op. Tomorrow night is fine...I can see this game growing on me...minus that #!*% melee camera!

Oh..and Flashburn...thanks for the tip though I'm trying to get to the finer details of the "stuff". So the weapons that came with the pre-order are so-so? I was going to ask about some of these like the dual-weld pistols. Some of the details on the items doesn't sound like much but it must make a difference.


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