re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

You would. -ptth-

This game is so grindy/repetitive, it really does take a special person to enjoy it.

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

I'm special.

Orokin Reactor alert mission for next 24 hours. Don't miss it.

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Same on PC.

I just ran 3 T3 Capture missions and all three gave a T3 Capture key as the reward. This is after they "fixed" the loot tables. Meh! I need a new game for a while I think.

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Got your message while playing and I assume it was for this? Got it almost the moment it came up. Also grabbed another Ash Helmet on the Alert..already have it anyway but another strange mission....not a single enemy anywhere and not a single shot fired?

I sent you a message that I went ahead and built four OD Keys...two for Defend and two for Survival. Be a good night for a good group if Flash wants to join in. To bad he has T3 Capture Keys for the PC and not the PS4...darn it!

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

If every T3 Cap gave a T3 cap key, I would have a billion credits.

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

And I would have no Bronco Prime, still. :(

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

FWIW...we did a ODD and got a T3 capture Key out of the deal. I used mine, Chess his and Sith had to give me his (3) Keys because we just couldn't get the invite. That's five T-III captures we ran last night....and still no Bronco Reciever.

Since I've begin a quest for just this one missing piece...almost 32-35 T2/3 Captures and nothing...did get another Bronco Barrel BP...now have close to (8) of them. Considering what I'm missing from the Void I can honestly claim the title of ....Grand Dragon of The Hard Luck Missing Prime Parts Club...

Boar Prime....Missing Receiver
Brayton Prime....Missing Barrel
Bronco Prime....Missing Receiver
Burston Prime....Missing Stock
Ember Prime....Missing Helmet

I can build the Latron Prime but though it's better than the normal why when the Soma is far better. Also can build the Sicarus Prime pistol but why bother...they took away some from the normal version including 1.5x Crit multiplier from 2.0 and cut in half the Impact. Neither is worth (10) Orokin Cells IMHO.

At least Loki will be ready here in about 5-6 hours. Speaking of which I saw this on the official forums talking about Nerfing Frames and the person posted it has close to 1200 posts so take FWIW...

It's going to happen to Loki too. I've known it for a very long time now. They're going to make it so radial disarm is on a timer so enemies weapons are not permanently disabled. In addition to this it's likely to have a timer for a cool down too. When the time comes they will do it. No real need to but they will.

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Finally got the Bronco! Congrats.

FWIW, you turned down 2-3 Boar Prime Receivers today in ODD. They're pretty common there.

On Burston Prime, you're missing the part you should be missing (i.e. the hardest one to get). The stock and barrel drop at 20 minute intervals on Derelict Survival.

On Ember Prime, the helmet shouldn't be too hard to get. Common in T2 Cap until next update. Not sure how we didn't get it already.

Braton Prime...don't bother.

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

So I have a Rhino, Oberon, Nova and Loki being built in the Foundry at the moment.

I have my Grakata to level 30 as well as the 2 Bratons. What other primary weapons should I try and start leveling?

Still need to learn about fusing, what best to do with the mods, and keys.

And once I reach level 30 on something (like the starter items) is there any reason to keep it?

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

I'd say you're good on frames for a while. Nice work, and good choices. Did you get the Orokin Reactor alert? The essence Loki helmet came up yesterday as well.

On keeping guns, if they aren't keepers and you didn't potato them, I'd say clear the inventory slot. The only other factor is how hard they are to farm (ie keep primes and such).

You'll likely level everything at some point, so there's no reason not to experiment with whatever looks interesting. For me, the Boltor and the Sobek held me over until I got the Soma, and I didn't potato either of them. If you really want to optimize your time and get some keepers now, I'd suggest going for Burston Prime on Derelict Survival. It's fully potato worthy. And Bronco Prime and Kunai are among the best secondaries in the game.

I keep seeing that you were online after the fact, and I turned off the pop ups for psn messages, so check to see if I'm in party chat, or send me a message in game, and I can give advice on fusion. I should be on a good portion of the day today.

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Wizard....FWIW....I wouldn't even worry about...or do any Core Fusion fpr awhile. Since playing I haven't done it once though now I have close to 3200 cores/mods and usually maintain around 750,000 credits average. The cost is one thing at 30,000 to do one and it's really a crack shoot. I've heard people getting good stuff with so-so mods and others using high uncommon & rares getting nothing. Use it 3-4 tmes that's 90-120K credits gone....

Did well yesterday by starting out with un-ranked Penta and Bronco Prime and finished the night by putting a Forma on both and getting them back to at least 26-30. Carrying both at the same time is a serious 1-2 punch. I've been impressed with both but really with the Penta. I thought it would be a short trivial thing like the Flame Thrower to play with. What we did in the ODD...two Penta's and one Ogris was something. Sorry my Vauban was not higher to have a better effect with Bastille. Still wave 55?

I guess for me tonight wouldn't mind just continue with Vauban, Bronco and Penta. I think you and even Sith mentioned several areas still not unlocked so maybe get four of us and do the defend/mobile or do a bunch of Tower's for the credits...still have those (7)T3 exterminate. Heck...another ODD would be fine. Good place for a bunch of cores also....what was it (97)?

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Just to avoid confusion, you're talking about Transmutation here, not Fusion. You should absolutely fuse and level up your mods, eventually to max with the possible exception of maybe one or two of the Corrupted Mods.

Agree about the Penta, and I bought a potato for it, but I haven't yet forma'd it. I find it much more interesting to run and gun with than the Ogris.

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Thanks for the correction on the Transmutation...which I still haven't tried yet.

Got one more of those green reactors to build and then I can assemble the Ogris. I'm going to see just how one Forma will do on the Penta but it didn't have a single polarity slot to begin with so who knows. I was showing some really good damage numbers using the base damage (Blast) with a combo elemental and a few others but had to leave one slot open due to running out of points.

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Made 105 plat in the market in ~ 20 minutes this morning. The biggest chunk of it was T3 keys at 5 plat each. Sold 11 of those in one shot to one guy. He posted what he wanted and the price he wanted to pay, I PM'ed "sure, have 11", and 5 minutes later, I had 55p. I also sold a spare Split Chamber for 30p and a couple of randoms (Seeker and Firestorm) for 10p each.

So I'm back over 750 platinum, but I have all of the frames, all of the helmets, all of the Primes, all of the Stalker's stuff, more slots than there are frames, tons of weapons slots, and a bunch of colors/cosmetics, so I'm not sure what I'll actually spend the platinum on other than maybe a couple of Orokin Catalysts and weapons slots.

It's crazy to think that I could have never bought the 370 plat I bought, and I would have had all of this fun at no cost whatsoever. I really just wanted to support the game and felt like $15 was a very small price.

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Chess, I think you told me how to do this, but how do I upgrade my mods?

I'll pick up the Boltor and Sobek. I have the Kunai but I'm waiting to level up my Wraith vipers.

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Pretty simple when it get a feel of and plus when really start to accumulate a lot of them.

A...Just pull up the Mod Window

Left Side...you'll see the window where the mod you want to fuse will go. Below it are your options...pick the second...Fusion.

At the top you'll see a row of icons. All represent the areas like Warframe, Pistol, Rifle, Sentinel, Fusion Cores, Aura, Melee and the first one is all combined.

Top help out more over to the end of that row on the right you can sort them all out by name, polarity and even recent which is real good at the end of the night to see what you got.

As Chess as probably told you certain Mods are a "must to level"...like Serration for the Rifle (increases the base damage of the gun). So...

Hit the "Fusion" (second button) on bottom left.
At the top move over to the "Rifle"
Sort by "Name" and find Serration...click it.
It should appear in the large window on the left.
Now which Mods/Cores to Fuse???...typically you want to Fuse/Use Mods with the same polarity but any will work. Of course the Fusion Cores are the "Wild Cards" which work with any mod period. You'll also want to pay attention to Rarity and Rank. the higher the rarity the more points added to level the mod. You can experiment a bit by...

Find a "Common" and add it to the Serration and notice the "Blue Gage"on the left and the bottom of the Mod with the "%" going up.. Now find say a "Uncommon" or even a "Rare" and add it. You might move the gauge twice and double the "%". Of course the higher the mod the more it takes to level based on the Rank/Rarity of the Mod itself. Don't like that mod or don't want to use it...just click again, the outline will change back to normal from Red.. You can add and subtract any mods by simply click and re-click. You can just hit "Back" and start over.

Now also it takes credits to pay for this so at the top of the Mod when you add another it will display the cost so bear that in mind. Again...the higher you go the more expensive it gets but so are the rewards in performance.

I rarely sell Mods since you can use the "crappy" ones for Fusion instead of the Fusion Cores. Some of these Mods require a lot of Mods/Cores to build up. Chess can attest to that. They can always be used to Fused and can be sold for credits. You can never have enough of them. Survival Mission and Endless Defend are great places to rack up XP, Level up and of course get lots of Mods. We got like (97) on the ODD last night

Not sure if Chess agrees on this but when you get "Rare Mods/Fusion Cores" save them for the higher leveling of the Mods. In other words some mods when you get it to Rank 7+...you can add 14-16 "Common" Mods/Cores and it might move the bar 1/5th. You want to get the most out of the commons and uncommon early on and save the higher for later on.

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Some nice runs with Wiz this evening. Got some solid nightmare mods and walked through some tutorials.

Crazy thing Wiz. I'm helping another guy do some of the same stuff, and our first nightmare run was Hammer Shot...probably 15 minutes after you got off.

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Thanks for such a nice detailed write-up. Chess actually jumped on board with me earlier today and helped me navigate through the process with some of my specific mods, so between this and that I think I got it figured out.

I think the next thing Chess was gonna help me work on is the Void stuff. In the meantime, I'm gonna work on leveling up my new Rhino!

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Congrats on getting Rhino finished! He's not really a frame you need to power level to make useful, because the second he gets Iron Skin and Stomp, he can hang in almost any setting. Just use him normally and let him level naturally. As he levels, you'll put on, in order: Streamline, Stretch, Focus along with a Redirection if you aren't comfortable with using Iron Skin as your primary defense (hint: get comfortable with it).

Please refresh me on where you are on frames. Like I said, I'm helping another guy get started, and I get a bit mixed up on which of you has what. Right now, you just have Excalibur and Rhino, correct? Anybody else in the oven? If not, we should probably farm you up a Nova sometime soonish, especially since she'll take 4 days to build. [Edit: nevermind, see your post above.]

For efficiency's sake, I'd like to see you get in some Orokin Derelict Survivals. For starters, you'll get Burston Prime parts, and it's the best weapon available to you right now. It's absolutely a potato-worthy gun that is usable against any level enemy, and you can use it at your current mastery rank. I currently use it more than Soma, but partly because it's new. Derelict Survival is also great for leveling, because you'll get tons of XP along with a few Orokin Cells and Neurodes. You'll also get rewards every 5 minutes, including Burston Prime parts, Void keys, Fusion Cores, and credit caches. You can build Derelict Survival Keys in 60 seconds for ~3000 credits, and you make more credits than it costs to make the key, especially after you run the Void key that's guaranteed to drop at the 15 minute mark. To summarize: XP, Void Keys, whatever credits/parts you get from Void Keys, Burston Prime parts, credits, Orokin Cells and Neurodes.

In terms of mods, you're off to a good start on Nightmare Mods, and with Rhino, I'm pretty confident you know which ones to run and how to solo them. If memory serves, you're after Hammer Shot (rare) and Shred primarily. After nightmare mods, it's probably worth going for some of the corrupted mods, which is a seemingly complicated process but really not that bad once you've done it. You just need four people to do them, and I already have 5 or 6 keys built. Off the top of my head, the "normal" mods I'd like to see you work on are Barrel Diffusion (pistol multishot, reward for tier 3 defenses) and Split Chamber (rifle multishot, tier 3 survival reward or farm Sargus Ruk).

Finally, you need to save enough credits to buy a sentinel blueprint, and I recommend Carrier. His ability to pick up mods, ammo and credits that you might not otherwise see or get is invaluable. Sentinel BPs are 100K credits and another 15K to build. The only "rare" materiel you'll need is Control Modules, and you'll have plenty from Void runs.

Whew, that sounds a lot...but it really isn't. I'd do it like this: Survival for reasons listed above, run whatever Void keys you get from survival for credits and prime parts, use credits to buy Carrier BP, and finally, farm up specific Nightmare, Corrupted and Rare mods.

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Overall a fun night for me.

Helped Wiz out, and he got some of the better Nightmare Mods, including Lethal Torrent.

Helped that other guy with some of the same stuff and got a Hammer Shot along with Whirlwind, a mod I've wanted to get for a while that will make Glaive Prime worth investing some time in.

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

My take on Nightmare Mods [bolded the ones I use]:

- Hammer Shot (A staple on any primary with a status or crit build...ie, almost every worthwhile primary)
- Constitution (I don't use this on anything, but you could make a case for Loki/Frost/Vauban)
- Fortitude (I don't use this on anything. Shield recharge sounds nice, but not worth a mod slot IMO)
- Shred (I go back and forth using this on Soma, and it's currently on my Burston Prime build)
- Focus Energy (A must for Galatine)
- Lethal Torrent (Goes on every secondary weapon. Period. The best of all Nightmare Mods IMO.)
- Stunning Speed (I don't use this on anything)
- Vigor (Looks great, but it's expensive for the relatively small % it gives)
- Blaze (I don't use shotguns for primaries, but this stays on my Carrier's shotgun)
- Ice Storm (A must on Bronco Prime, increases clip from 4 to 6 and covers ice elemental)
- Wildfire (I use this on Penta, increases clip from 5 to 6 and covers fire damage)
- Rending Strike (A must on Galatine)
- Accelerated Blast (On my Carrier's shotgun)

So I use 9 of the 13 regularly. Not too shabby, and they are all pretty easy to farm other than Hammer Shot and Blaze.

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Not bad a night last night and somewhat interesting on the Tower Survival. That was actually not a bad room to be in. Thanks for getting me the Whirlwind. I got my both the Penta and Bronco Prime way back up and they're almost ready for a second Forma...the Bronco for sure. Got vauban back up a bit where he makes a difference. Looked at several of his builds and almost reminds me of Loki's....all built around Duration and Efficiency. Vortex is actually a pretty good defense ability.

If ya'll run ODD/S I've got (2) each along with bunches of tower keys. Plus I'm still missing some of the Prime parts and could always use more of the special mods. Good to see some new friends in the mix to.

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

The problem with a Duration and Efficiency build on Vauban is that it's hard to maximize both without taking a big hit on Power or Range.

Both Loki and Vauban can use Continuity (30% Duration) and Streamline (30% Efficiency) with no penalty.

Efficiency: Fleeting Expertise sacrifices Duration for Efficiency, so that's a no-go on both Loki/Vauban because Duration is their bread and butter. Luckily, Loki has an Efficiency helmet to add 25% (55% total), but Vauban doesn't, so he's really capped at 30%. Vauban's Esprit Helmet gives him an extra 10% Energy pool though, so he might be a rare candidate for Flow.

Duration: Narrow Minded sacrifices Range for Duration, which is fine on Loki because he can use an Overextended without penalty because none of his abilities rely on Power, but Vauban's Vortex and Tesla do. Vauban can use Constitution for an extra 28% Duration without penalty (58% total).

Vauban's ideal build is probably more like Frost than Loki. Loki can actually get really good mileage out of Corrupted mods, but Vauban can't, other than maybe a low-mid level Narrow Minded combined with Stretch.

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Speaking of Corrupted Mods, my take is that they are almost custom made for specific frames and weapons, and at least half of the 16 are close to useless.

The popular ones:

• Fleeting Expertise (+ Efficiency, - Duration): Good for any frame that doesn't rely too much on Duration (Rhino, Nova, Mag)
• Heavy Caliber (+ Damage, - Accuracy): Good on flame throwers and rocket/grenade launchers. I hate this on rifles
• Blind Rage (+ Power, - Efficiency): [Edit] I currently use this on Rhino and Nova at rank 5 and offset it with both max Fleeting and max Streamline
• Narrow Minded (+ Duration, - Range): Good at mid levels on frames that don't need range (Volt, Trinity) and/or that can use Overextended (Loki, Nyx)
• Overextended (+ Range, - Power): Good for frames that don't rely on Power (Loki, Nyx and maybe Rhino)
• Critical Delay (+ Crit Damage, - Fire Rate): I hear good things about this on Grakata. Didn't like it on Soma
• Corrupt Charge (+ Charge Damage, - Charge Speed): Galatine
• Magnum Force: Heavy Caliber for pistols. Not something I use but maybe for something like Embolist?

re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Yea, I've looked at Frost especially Snow Globe and the +/- of Duration, Efficiency, Range and Strength are almost identical. No matter what you do or aim for, you'll be penalized with some negative effect. With Bastille...

You want duration but more time the negative is a smaller radius.
You want better efficiency but the negative is less duration.
You want some range with the curtain/wall but the negative is wider the area less enemies held up.
You want more power strength because that means more enemies held in place but power cost goes up.

Vortex is a bit better...
Strength and Range has no positive effect
Duration increase time and has no negative
Efficiency reduces power cost but reduces duration

I'm wondering if it's better to stick in a max/best Flow for a Power Pool, go for a mid level Duration , mid level Stretch and not even use Efficiency since it pretty much kills duration. It seems duration is the most important factor with both Bastille and Vortex with Range & Strength only helping Bastille.


...nice little summary of the Corrupted Mods. Good write-up