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chess 06-13-13 07:34 AM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 

Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 11729428)
...or the guy who's been overly pro-Sony since the last generation and has putting down everything Microsoft related all week.

Please scroll up post 336 to see me saying that Titanfall was the best exclusive of the show, and save your fanboy accusations.

Any criticism for Xbox One is well deserved, and it's obvious to any person capable of comparing one thing to another.

Spiderbite 06-13-13 07:40 AM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 
Everyone keeps mentioning Titanfall but when was the last mech game to have a huge success?

Mech games always seem to be more niche than mass.

RichC2 06-13-13 08:00 AM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 

Originally Posted by brianluvdvd (Post 11729613)
Everyone keeps mentioning Titanfall but when was the last mech game to have a huge success?

Mech games always seem to be more niche than mass.

What was the last Call of Duty style game to feature Mechs as a weapon? If it were a straight Mech shooter I'd agree.

What's funny is they finally found a way to make these games appeal to Japanese audiences, on a console not yet announced for release in Japan.

That said I really want to play it, but will purchase it for the Xbox 360.

chess 06-13-13 08:12 AM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 
It could be mediocre, and it might not do well in the market (as a launch exclusive for a console with a lot of negative buzz), but it showed better than any exclusive in the show and better than any multi-platform games other than Watch Dogs and Destiny. If it plays like it shows, it could even drive X1 sales.

I'll be interested in seeing what exclusives Naughty Dog and Quantic Dreams have in store for PS4, as they are Sony's best teams along with maybe Santa Monica, but I understand why they didn't show anything given that they still have Last of Us and Beyond releasing for PS3.

Rob V 06-13-13 08:29 AM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 
If it was mentioned in this thread, I missed it... But Battlefront 3 bitches!!!

Michael Corvin 06-13-13 09:11 AM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 

Originally Posted by chess (Post 11729631)
It could be mediocre, and it might not do well in the market (as a launch exclusive for a console with a lot of negative buzz), but it showed better than any exclusive in the show and better than any multi-platform games other than Watch Dogs and Destiny. If it plays like it shows, it could even drive X1 sales.

Meh. Looked like CoD with mechs. Give me Destiny.


Originally Posted by chess (Post 11729631)
If it plays like it shows, it could even drive X1 sales.

Titanfall is on the 360 too.

chess 06-13-13 09:13 AM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11729701)
Titanfall is on the 360 too.

Oh.

That seems kind of dumb.

Groucho 06-13-13 09:20 AM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11729701)
Titanfall is on the 360 too.

Well, cool. That was the one thing that I was going to miss by not Xboning myself in 2013.

chess 06-13-13 09:26 AM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 
"Xboning myself"

:lol:

That one is like an onion. Layers.

fumanstan 06-13-13 09:27 AM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 

Originally Posted by chess (Post 11729610)
Please scroll up post 336 to see me saying that Titanfall was the best exclusive of the show, and save your fanboy accusations.

Any criticism for Xbox One is well deserved, and it's obvious to any person capable of comparing one thing to another.

I never said the criticism for the One isn't deserved. But that doesn't mean your comment to discostu1337 was deserved when all he did was mention that Killer Instinct was pretty fun at the show, a thought shared by more then just him from the reactions i've seen online. And given that you've already said those same things about your thoughts on whether Killer Instinct will be a success before, it just seems like you're railing on him. Yeah he's been pro-One, but nothing wrong with him sharing his thoughts of a game from the actual show floor.

Michael Corvin 06-13-13 09:33 AM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 

Originally Posted by chess (Post 11729702)
Oh.

That seems kind of dumb.

Best chance at making it a franchise, especially with all the negativity surrounding the xbone.

fumanstan 06-13-13 09:43 AM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 
All the word about Titanfall on the 360 is that its being done with "help from another developer" though. I'm curious how it will even compare, or if it will just be a simple port by the time it's released on the One/PC in 2014.

fumanstan 06-13-13 09:45 AM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 
http://kotaku.com/according-to-its-d...eale-513072870


In an interview with Famitsu.com, director Tetsuya Nomura noted that the announcement for the first official numbered sequel in nearly 8 years since Kingdom Hearts 2 may have been somewhat premature. "There have been a lot of spin-off games since Kingdom Hearts 2 and a lot of fans were probably getting anxious, so we made the announcement together with Final Fantasy XV." Nomura stated, adding, "Considering where we are in development, it may have been a little early."

According to Nomura, the visual direction of the game has been mostly solidified into what we saw in the teaser. Like FFXV, the development team is currently using the Luminous Studio engine to make an over-spec version of the game that can subsequently be ported to the PS4 and Xbox One.

Due to technical difficulties, a realtime rendering of the battle sequence at the end of the teaser could not be shown at E3 and had to be pre-rendered, but Nomura assures that, "When you actually see the game running in realtime, it'll look almost exactly the same."
This makes me think Kingdom Hearts 3 won't be ready for quite awhile.

chess 06-13-13 10:11 AM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 

Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 11729722)
I never said the criticism for the One isn't deserved. But that doesn't mean your comment to discostu1337 was deserved when all he did was mention that Killer Instinct was pretty fun at the show, a thought shared by more then just him from the reactions i've seen online. And given that you've already said those same things about your thoughts on whether Killer Instinct will be a success before, it just seems like you're railing on him. Yeah he's been pro-One, but nothing wrong with him sharing his thoughts of a game from the actual show floor.

I think it's fair to..
  1. Question Rare's ability to make a good game or a fighting game
  2. Question Double Helix's ability to make a good game or a fighting game
  3. Question Microsoft's ability to do much of anything right at the moment
  4. Quesion discostu's objectivity when it comes to Microsoft
I could be wrong about any or all of those, but I'll take my chances.

chess 06-13-13 10:15 AM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 
How relevant is Square these days?

They're still a big name developer, I suppose, and they have some famous franchises, but they don't seem good enough to justify how quirky and slow they are with development cycles.

Good job taking 5 years to make the 5th best JRPG this year. [/hyperbole]

badlieut 06-13-13 10:17 AM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 
Titanfall may come to PS4 they are saying so it looks like it might just be a timed exclusive for the Xbox.

RichC2 06-13-13 10:17 AM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 

Originally Posted by chess (Post 11729782)
How relevant is Square these days?

They're still a big name developer, I suppose, and they have some famous franchises, but they don't seem good enough to justify how quirky and slow they are with development cycles.

Good job taking 5 years to make the 5th best JRPG this year. [/hyperbole]

Square, as developers, still have a lot of pull with their big name games like Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts, but that's pretty much all they have these days. The company is now a publishing mega house, runs Enix so there's Dragon Quest to think about, etc;

Looking at their upcoming games it's literally:

Final Fantasy X/X-2 (Vita, PS3)
Final Fantasy XV (Xbox One, PS4)
Kingdom Hearts III (Xbox One, PS4)
Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII (PS3, X360)

They need to hurry up and get the new Legacy of Kain out.

Also I remember how much shit Destructoid got for their Final Fantasy XIII review when it was first published (a 4 out of 10), and it's funny seeing all the current comments which simply state "You were right."

fumanstan 06-13-13 10:26 AM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 

Originally Posted by chess (Post 11729779)
I think it's fair to..
  1. Question Rare's ability to make a good game or a fighting game
  2. Question Double Helix's ability to make a good game or a fighting game
  3. Question Microsoft's ability to do much of anything right at the moment
  4. Quesion discostu's objectivity when it comes to Microsoft
I could be wrong about any or all of those, but I'll take my chances.

I never said it wasn't fair to question those first 3. :shrug:

I don't really mean to give you shit, more so defend discostu a bit since other people have their console preferences but he's getting a lot of crap for it, while I know you're a Sony guy. Nothing wrong with that, and I don't mean it in a fanboy type of negative connotation.

chess 06-13-13 10:43 AM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 
Pretty decent discussion here...

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discostu1337 06-13-13 11:15 AM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 

Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 11729798)
I never said it wasn't fair to question those first 3. :shrug:

I don't really mean to give you shit, more so defend discostu a bit since other people have their console preferences but he's getting a lot of crap for it, while I know you're a Sony guy. Nothing wrong with that, and I don't mean it in a fanboy type of negative connotation.

It's ok, It is my fault for posting thoughts on an E3 game in the E3 thread...I forgot all of these gaming threads turned into "XBOX sucks, can't wait to have sex with my PS4" ;)

Perhaps the anti XBOX stuff should be left in the PS4 forum? That way, we can actually talk about relevant things in here, and let people who want to enjoy the new XBOX talk in that thread without being insulted every 5 minutes?

Music 06-13-13 12:41 PM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 

Originally Posted by DVDChris (Post 11728177)
why the heck would master chief need to wear a hoodie. He's wearing a helmet.

Looked like his visor/helmet was damaged.

Then again, he could just be hiding.

chess 06-13-13 12:48 PM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 

Originally Posted by discostu1337 (Post 11729884)
...all of these gaming threads turned into "XBOX sucks, can't wait to have sex with my PS4" ;)

...let people who want to enjoy the new XBOX talk in that thread without being insulted every 5 minutes?

I'm not a smart man, but I think I detect an irony.

Michael Corvin 06-13-13 01:53 PM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 

Originally Posted by discostu1337 (Post 11729884)
It's ok, It is my fault for posting thoughts on an E3 game in the E3 thread...I forgot all of these gaming threads turned into "XBOX sucks, can't wait to have sex with my PS4" ;)

E3 summary in pictures:

Microsoft:


Sony:


Nintendo

RichC2 06-13-13 01:56 PM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 

Originally Posted by House (Post 11729368)
It was a teaser and they didn't want the audience to know it was Halo until the end. Stop trolling.

That isn't trolling, it really was a silly trailer. Visually cool, conceptually idiotic.

I saw D4 and thought they finally made a sequel to D2 :lol: made me think it was time for more Maken X and Timesplitters while we were at it.

That said I give Microsoft props for basically funding Hidetaka Suehiro to make another game.

ultimaton 06-13-13 02:02 PM

Re: Official E3 Thread of Microsoft's Self-Inflicted Misery (June 10-13, 2013)
 

Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 11730140)
That isn't trolling, it really was a silly trailer. Visually cool, conceptually idiotic.

Well, his armor looked damaged, so the cloak would serve to help keep sand and grit out of the vulnerable joints and damaged areas. :shrug:


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