Re: Bungie - Destiny
Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
(Post 12146126)
There's no way a new IP is going to sell 8 million in a week, especially now where there's a user base divided over four platforms.
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Re: Bungie - Destiny
Originally Posted by foxdvd
(Post 12146483)
When Halo 3 launched there were 8 million xbox 360 users in America..(not sure world wide, but prob less than 15 million)
Not fair to compare sales on 15 million units with one with sales on over 100 million units... Halo Reach was not part of the main series, and followed lowered sales of Halo ODST. AND it was on one system. You are comparing Ghost sales to past Call of Duty games? :lol: Call of Duty is losing steam. It has nothing to do with system fragmentation.. The bottom line is it is difficult to compare game sales from past systems and years. You have to go off recent trends. Watch Dogs sold over 4 million games on its first week. Destiny preorders are higher, and continue to actually pull away. There is a massive drought of games from now until Destiny launches. (I don't think any of the big games you quoted come out before Destiny outside Madden..which will not hurt Destiny sales) |
Re: Bungie - Destiny
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
(Post 12146409)
Sure but wouldn't it make sense to ease people into the transition? There's no reason to go digital when the disc copy comes with a day one deal and/or extras.
I do agree though, if they are trying to get more people to go digital, they should make it more enticing. |
Re: Bungie - Destiny
Eh...it'll sell 2-3 shit tons, and rightly so.
Here's a pretty slick video that's worth a look. http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/s...lay-experience Get hyped, bitches! |
Re: Bungie - Destiny
None of my friends have played this, but we were wondering, are you limited to groups of 3?
Chess - that video wa great; thanks. |
Re: Bungie - Destiny
In the "co-op" portion yes it's in groups of (3)...but you can actually have say two groups of (2) working in tandem if you coordinate it correctly. In other words you can be in the same area, just not in the same group. Does that answer your question.
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Re: Bungie - Destiny
Sort of. My 3 friends and I frequently play through co-OP games together. I'm still trying to figure out if this 3 party system will prevent that, or if it's just a technicality.
I suppose we could do 2 x 2 or all solo and do a party chat...? |
Re: Bungie - Destiny
Originally Posted by foxdvd
(Post 12146483)
You are comparing Ghost sales to past Call of Duty games? :lol: Call of Duty is losing steam. It has nothing to do with system fragmentation..
Yeah, that's why I can't take you seriously. |
Re: Bungie - Destiny
Originally Posted by Superman07
(Post 12146771)
Sort of. My 3 friends and I frequently play through co-OP games together. I'm still trying to figure out if this 3 party system will prevent that, or if it's just a technicality.
I suppose we could do 2 x 2 or all solo and do a party chat...? On a side note Bungie has released a T-shirt that now has become their most sold and popular commemorating the Destiny Alpha. Profits sold from this will be donated to a Bungie Charity... http://bungiestore.com/collections/a...-alpha-t-shirt |
Re: Bungie - Destiny
Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
(Post 12146784)
That's why Call of Duty: Ghosts has moved nearly 25M copies and is still the most played game on Xbox Live? That's why it was the number one in the charts for four months straight?
Yeah, that's why I can't take you seriously. They peaked with MW3, and ever since, each CoD has had slightly lower sales #s. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psc8ad9166.png http://g.foolcdn.com/editorial/image...ales_large.png |
Re: Bungie - Destiny
Originally Posted by K&AJones
(Post 12146796)
On a side note Bungie has released a T-shirt that now has become their most sold and popular commemorating the Destiny Alpha. Profits sold from this will be donated to a Bungie Charity...
http://bungiestore.com/collections/a...-alpha-t-shirt http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/041...g?v=1403287708 It was so bad, it became a meme on NeoGAF, and they're owning it. Well played Bungie, well played. |
Re: Bungie - Destiny
Originally Posted by Superman07
(Post 12146771)
Sort of. My 3 friends and I frequently play through co-OP games together. I'm still trying to figure out if this 3 party system will prevent that, or if it's just a technicality.
I suppose we could do 2 x 2 or all solo and do a party chat...? Strikes (boss raids basically) are limited to the one three-man fire team. |
Re: Bungie - Destiny
Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
(Post 12146784)
That's why Call of Duty: Ghosts has moved nearly 25M copies and is still the most played game on Xbox Live? That's why it was the number one in the charts for four months straight?
Yeah, that's why I can't take you seriously. I played all of the Call of Duty games, and the hype going into Ghost was not NEAR the level felt among players as the last few call of duty games. In fact, there has been a bit of FPS fatigue on all games for a while now, and the timing of new systems was needed badly. Ultimately all the games you had in bold mean nothing since those games were either established ip's or released at a different time in gaming. The ONLY game we can compare for this generation is Watch Dogs. It is the only serious gross generation new ip released, and it set the record. I guess I am bat shit crazy for thinking Destiny is going to do even better. But at least I can go to bed tonight and tell each of my children that THE Matthew Chmiel ..the most respected and quoted man in dvdtalk history does not take me seriously. I can scratch that off my bucket list. and just out of curiosity, what do you think this game will do the first week? |
Re: Bungie - Destiny
Yea...i saw the shirt and almost certain Ill get it but that 12x18 lithograph signed and limited to "150 pcs"...almost to good to pass up.
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Re: Bungie - Destiny
Originally Posted by foxdvd
(Post 12146924)
But at least I can go to bed tonight and tell each of my children that THE Matthew Chmiel ..the most respected and quoted man in dvdtalk history does not take me seriously.
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:lol:
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Re: Bungie - Destiny
Originally Posted by mattysemo247
(Post 12146589)
I don't think those are the people they are trying to target. People looking to buy digital on day one are doing it out of convenience (don't have to leave the house or swap discs), not by trying to save money (promos, a disc you can trade in at a latter time).
I do agree though, if they are trying to get more people to go digital, they should make it more enticing. I assumed they'd have to introduce download cards at some point to appease retailers once these consoles are all digital. |
Re: Bungie - Destiny
Does Destiny have an end game? In other words, it's not like World of Warcraft where you go out and spend 8 hours or 8 years just building up your character with no true ending, is it?
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Re: Bungie - Destiny
I'm not certain Bungie can even answer that question or at least now. I believe it's been mentioned their long term vison of Destiny is around 10 years. Halo has stayed alive since 2001 and that's wih one main character and universe compared to what Destiny has in store far smaller.
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Re: Bungie - Destiny
Originally Posted by foxdvd
(Post 12146924)
But at least I can go to bed tonight and tell each of my children that THE Matthew Chmiel ..the most respected and quoted man in dvdtalk history does not take me seriously. I can scratch that off my bucket list.
I think Destiny hits a scary cross section of gamers. For starters, it's going to pull in anybody who liked Borderlands or Halo, and that's quite a few people. Add in anybody who likes loot games, sci-fi, MMOs and coop or competitive multiplayer FPS. Add in the timing of Destiny's release with a month to itself, tons of games getting pushed to 2015, and people hungry for content on their new consoles. Add in the masterful use of the Alpha (literally won E3) and probably the Beta for positive word of mouth. Add in the monstrous marketing push it will get between the Beta and launch. Looks like a perfect storm to me. |
Re: Bungie - Destiny
Originally Posted by Rob V
(Post 12147411)
Does Destiny have an end game? In other words, it's not like World of Warcraft where you go out and spend 8 hours or 8 years just building up your character with no true ending, is it?
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/s...lay-experience Not sure how that translates to "end game" though. |
Re: Bungie - Destiny
Originally Posted by chess
(Post 12147558)
:lol: Hope you slept OK!
I think Destiny hits a scary cross section of gamers. For starters, it's going to pull in anybody who liked Borderlands or Halo, and that's quite a few people. Add in anybody who likes loot games, sci-fi, MMOs and coop or competitive multiplayer FPS. Add in the timing of Destiny's release with a month to itself, tons of games getting pushed to 2015, and people hungry for content on their new consoles. Add in the masterful use of the Alpha (literally won E3) and probably the Beta for positive word of mouth. Add in the monstrous marketing push it will get between the Beta and launch. Looks like a perfect storm to me. |
Re: Bungie - Destiny
I find it very odd that they haven't announced a limited or collectors edition yet. It's Bungie and Activision, I can't see how this kind of game could be released without one.
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Re: Bungie - Destiny
Originally Posted by chess
(Post 12147558)
I think Destiny hits a scary cross section of gamers. For starters, it's going to pull in anybody who liked Borderlands or Halo, and that's quite a few people. Add in anybody who likes loot games, sci-fi, MMOs and coop or competitive multiplayer FPS. Add in the timing of Destiny's release with a month to itself, tons of games getting pushed to 2015, and people hungry for content on their new consoles. Add in the masterful use of the Alpha (literally won E3) and probably the Beta for positive word of mouth. Add in the monstrous marketing push it will get between the Beta and launch.
Looks like a perfect storm to me. |
Re: Bungie - Destiny
Originally Posted by mattysemo247
(Post 12148184)
I find it very odd that they haven't announced a limited or collectors edition yet. It's Bungie and Activision, I can't see how this kind of game could be released without one.
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