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Old 04-08-13, 02:49 PM   #126
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Re: Kickstarter: Tropes vs. Women in Video Games

Dammit. When I saw this thread updated I thought she posted her second video already.
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Old 05-28-13, 03:29 PM   #127
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Old 05-28-13, 04:11 PM   #128
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let the firestorm commence.
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Old 05-28-13, 04:14 PM   #129
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Video removed because it violated Youtube's TOS?
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Old 05-28-13, 04:18 PM   #130
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Video removed because it violated Youtube's TOS?
Musta been the "trigger warning"
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Old 05-28-13, 04:27 PM   #131
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That's weird. They even blocked out the bare breasts with pink bars. I think she must have been reported by people just because of who she is.
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Old 05-28-13, 04:28 PM   #132
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I did get to watch it, and since I don't play that many games anymore I was shocked at the overall story laziness. There was a lot of dead female motivators.
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Old 05-28-13, 04:40 PM   #133
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Probably got falsely reported by youtube assholes, which seems to be a redundant description these days.

It could also be a robot tagged it for copyrighted content, but I think the error specifies that. I know Nintendo caused a stir recently by enabling copyright content matching on many of their titles's gameplay footage, but even then it leaves the video in place and Nintendo takes the ad revenue.
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Old 05-28-13, 04:56 PM   #134
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Re: Kickstarter: Tropes vs. Women in Video Games

I was able to watch it, there's nothing there that should cause it to be pulled.

Not as good as the first installment...seemed a little redundant. Not to mention that in most of the games she profiles, hundreds of male characters get killed...but she focuses on the deaths of the female characters only.

Lots of spoilers for newer games, as you can imagine. No mention of Tomb Raider or Bioshock: Infinite.
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Old 05-28-13, 05:16 PM   #135
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It seems to be up again. I'm loading it now. Can't wait to watch it.

EDIT: I had to stop viewing halfway to say that I knew I really like this woman when she laughed at the Bionic Commando remake because I know she was thinking exactly what I thought when I was told of that game's big twist.

EDIT #2: Finally finished watching it. Loved it. Bring on part 3.

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Not to mention that in most of the games she profiles, hundreds of male characters get killed...but she focuses on the deaths of the female characters only.
In all fairness, most of those male deaths are canon fodder rather than the McGuffin that sets the story in motion.

Hell, look at Max Payne 3. Even though he takes the male deaths hard as well, what really gets Max going is a kidnapped helpless woman. And he also has to deal with her obnoxiously whiny sister later on.
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Old 05-28-13, 06:29 PM   #136
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So is this a "women in refrigerators" theme (haven't watched it yet)? If so I blame Ron Marz for writing the story that prompted Simone to coin the term...
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Old 05-28-13, 10:37 PM   #137
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So is this a "women in refrigerators" theme (haven't watched it yet)? If so I blame Ron Marz for writing the story that prompted Simone to coin the term...
Women in Refrigerators is mentioned, but the scope is bigger than that, and the trope is much older than a 90's comic book.
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Old 05-29-13, 08:19 AM   #138
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Women in Refrigerators is mentioned, but the scope is bigger than that, and the trope is much older than a 90's comic book.
Yeah, she could have easily relied on that trope but she really did her homework and brought up a lot of interesting points. I also like that she acknowledges that none of this means women can't/shouldn't die in games nor that playing any of these games will suddenly transform you into a misogynistic douchebag. However, the tropes are really overused and are getting more pervasive in their depiction rather than at least trying something different.

I hope that in part 3 she mentions that in Uncharted, Drake races to rescue Elena only for her to have to rescue him. Sure she later has to be rescued again but it’s more a case that she’s out cold due to a helicopter crash she indirectly caused while trying to escape.
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Old 05-29-13, 11:18 AM   #139
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So I'm curious how many dudes instinctively tried to contact YouTube and save her video when it went down...
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Old 05-29-13, 02:32 PM   #140
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So I'm curious how many dudes instinctively tried to contact YouTube and save her video when it went down...
How would they even do that? It got reported, she contacted YouTube, and it went back up.
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Old 05-29-13, 02:34 PM   #141
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Old 06-02-13, 06:36 PM   #142
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In all fairness, most of those male deaths are canon fodder rather than the McGuffin that sets the story in motion.
I lost interest when I realized that she'd overlooked the game that was probably the biggest trendsetter here:

Final Fantasy 7.
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Old 06-02-13, 06:51 PM   #143
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I lost interest when I realized that she'd overlooked the game that was probably the biggest trendsetter here:

Final Fantasy 7.
Aeris is a main, playable character though. I don't think that qualifies her as a damsel. We might get something about her later.
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Old 06-02-13, 09:59 PM   #144
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I lost interest when I realized that she'd overlooked the game that was probably the biggest trendsetter here:

Final Fantasy 7.
Regarding FF7..
Spoiler:
Aeris is more of an example of women in refrigerators (death) than damsel in distress (needing rescue). Also, her death wasn't the main narrative drive; the other characters were already committed to stopping Sephiroth before he kills her.

However, she is included in the tumblr feed:
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Old 08-01-13, 04:52 PM   #145
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Old 08-01-13, 05:53 PM   #146
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She should buy a second shirt.
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Old 08-01-13, 06:56 PM   #148
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5 months, 3 videos, one trope...I'm not even bothering with this one.
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Old 08-01-13, 07:16 PM   #149
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She should buy a second shirt.
Maybe that was a Kickstarter stretch goal that she didn't reach.
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Old 08-01-13, 09:15 PM   #150
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She should buy a second shirt.
She filmed all of these videos in one day. No time for a wardrobe change!
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