What's all the fuss over trophies?
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What's all the fuss over trophies?
I am not starting this thread to get flamed, I am just curious.
With the great PS3 black-out of 2010, it looks like a lot of people lost their trophies. People are up in arms over this all over the web.
I mean, it is pretty cool when a trophy pops up in the upper right corner, but I forget about it shortly thereafter. As an example, I lost my "Good Father" trophy from Hard Rain, but I would not start the game over just to get the trophy back.
My question is simple, why do some people care so much about these trophies? Maybe there is something I am just not aware of.
With the great PS3 black-out of 2010, it looks like a lot of people lost their trophies. People are up in arms over this all over the web.
I mean, it is pretty cool when a trophy pops up in the upper right corner, but I forget about it shortly thereafter. As an example, I lost my "Good Father" trophy from Hard Rain, but I would not start the game over just to get the trophy back.
My question is simple, why do some people care so much about these trophies? Maybe there is something I am just not aware of.
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Moot point anyway, since the trophies all came back, right?
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I could personally care less about "trophies" however "achievements" give me a boner
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Re: What's all the fuss over trophies?
It's a similar concept to any other tracking or leveling system, at it's most basic level they represent a way for the user to track how much they have accomplished in a game. It's just an e-peen thing and like any other system, some people care about it, some don't.
If you were a person who does care about such a thing, how would you feel if essentially a certain amount of work you had already completed (and maybe spent a lot of time doing so) was wiped out without any trace that you actually did it?
Personally, I don't care, but there are a lot of people that do. I can see how the uproar came about.
If you were a person who does care about such a thing, how would you feel if essentially a certain amount of work you had already completed (and maybe spent a lot of time doing so) was wiped out without any trace that you actually did it?
Personally, I don't care, but there are a lot of people that do. I can see how the uproar came about.
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I've basically abandoned game-playing on my PS3 in favor of the 360 for now, but for me the drive to obtain achievements/trophies comes from the sense of completion that accompanies finishing a game 100% or as close as possible, and the added challenges and replay value of getting to that point.
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I still don't get the whole "achievements" thing. Everytime I get one, I'm like, "OK, what does that mean?" Is there some XBOX shop you can redeem then for prizes at, like tickets in a arcade?
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I've basically abandoned game-playing on my PS3 in favor of the 360 for now, but for me the drive to obtain achievements/trophies comes from the sense of completion that accompanies finishing a game 100% or as close as possible, and the added challenges and replay value of getting to that point.
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I've basically abandoned game-playing on my PS3 in favor of the 360 for now, but for me the drive to obtain achievements/trophies comes from the sense of completion that accompanies finishing a game 100% or as close as possible, and the added challenges and replay value of getting to that point.
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The fact that i'm going to be buying ffxiii for the 360 instead of ps3, does that mean I favour achievements over graphics? Yikes something wrong with that picture.
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They are used to exploit the obsessive flaws of most hardcore nerdlingers. More trophies/achievements = stronger Geek Fu. If you still don't understand and relate, consider yourself lucky.
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As others have said/implied, the best trophies/achievements extend the game in some way by making you do things you wouldn't otherwise do. I have platinums in Burnout Paradise, Fallout 3, Uncharted 2 and Borderlands (almost in InFAMOUS and LBP)...all games that I absolutely adored and wanted to get maximum mileage out of. Trophies gave me extra mileage, and in some cases gave me a completely different perspective of the game.
Also, I have no interest in the "e-peen" aspect of trophies, but I do like to compare mine to other people I know just to see what they've played. As in, hey, you have a bunch of trophies for GAME X...how was that? Or, hey, he got a platinum in GAME Y, so he must've really liked it.
Also, I have no interest in the "e-peen" aspect of trophies, but I do like to compare mine to other people I know just to see what they've played. As in, hey, you have a bunch of trophies for GAME X...how was that? Or, hey, he got a platinum in GAME Y, so he must've really liked it.
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I could care less about trophies. Don't even know which ones I have. I just wish Sony would give me a new controller. That might spark my interest to play more games (other than exclusives) on their system. 10+ years with no redesign is just plain lazy for any company, especially Sony.
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To that note, their new controller looked like a boomerang sex toy with no actual change to the controls.
I like Achievements more for some reason, but the whole thing works as a "Try to do this in the game!" sort of extends value. Having the higher score though? Kinda lame.
Of course, there is always this old comic describing it (NSFW-ish)
I like Achievements more for some reason, but the whole thing works as a "Try to do this in the game!" sort of extends value. Having the higher score though? Kinda lame.
Of course, there is always this old comic describing it (NSFW-ish)
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As others have said/implied, the best trophies/achievements extend the game in some way by making you do things you wouldn't otherwise do. I have platinums in Burnout Paradise, Fallout 3, Uncharted 2 and Borderlands (almost in InFAMOUS and LBP)...all games that I absolutely adored and wanted to get maximum mileage out of. Trophies gave me extra mileage, and in some cases gave me a completely different perspective of the game.
Also, I have no interest in the "e-peen" aspect of trophies, but I do like to compare mine to other people I know just to see what they've played. As in, hey, you have a bunch of trophies for GAME X...how was that? Or, hey, he got a platinum in GAME Y, so he must've really liked it.
Also, I have no interest in the "e-peen" aspect of trophies, but I do like to compare mine to other people I know just to see what they've played. As in, hey, you have a bunch of trophies for GAME X...how was that? Or, hey, he got a platinum in GAME Y, so he must've really liked it.
I pride myself on my "completion percentage". Not because I care what other people think of my e-peen, but because I care. I'm a self-professed "Achievement Whore". I get everything I can out of a game. I'm not a "Gamerscore Whore". I don't play games just to get quick points.
Looking back at the PS2, I busted my ass to 100% Kingdom Hearts II to see a special video at the end that I could easily see on youtube. I played through this insane tournament in game and got by by the skin of my teeth. I did it and the only thing I have is a memory. A trophy would be something I can display.
In that regard, as I'm stream-of-conscious here, I guess I don't them as anything other than virtual trophy cases. People earn trophies, medals, ribbons, and plaques in real life for their accomplishments and honors. Why should gaming be excluded? Why is taking pride in what you do and what you play nerdy? Why does it always come down to e-peen? Sure, I'm not saying everyone who plays games should care about this stuff. But I'm also don't think it's appropriate for those that don't care to chastise those that do care.
Both ways of gaming are fun for the player.
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Very lucky. I'm one of those who really doesn't care that much. I hate being asked what my gamer score is LOL. To me it's such an arbitrary number. As for trophies, I honestly don't think I could have that many since I haven't done a ton of gaming on the PS3. That'll change when FF13 comes out though =)
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I agree with all of this. I've always been a completionist. Trophies/Achievements give me another way to complete a game. Usually they go hand-in-hand with doing everything in a game, but sometimes they're meant for extra challenges (doing things fast, a certain way, a certain number of times, no weapons, etc.... skill-based tasks).
I pride myself on my "completion percentage". Not because I care what other people think of my e-peen, but because I care. I'm a self-professed "Achievement Whore". I get everything I can out of a game. I'm not a "Gamerscore Whore". I don't play games just to get quick points.
Looking back at the PS2, I busted my ass to 100% Kingdom Hearts II to see a special video at the end that I could easily see on youtube. I played through this insane tournament in game and got by by the skin of my teeth. I did it and the only thing I have is a memory. A trophy would be something I can display.
In that regard, as I'm stream-of-conscious here, I guess I don't them as anything other than virtual trophy cases. People earn trophies, medals, ribbons, and plaques in real life for their accomplishments and honors. Why should gaming be excluded? Why is taking pride in what you do and what you play nerdy? Why does it always come down to e-peen? Sure, I'm not saying everyone who plays games should care about this stuff. But I'm also don't think it's appropriate for those that don't care to chastise those that do care.
Both ways of gaming are fun for the player.
I pride myself on my "completion percentage". Not because I care what other people think of my e-peen, but because I care. I'm a self-professed "Achievement Whore". I get everything I can out of a game. I'm not a "Gamerscore Whore". I don't play games just to get quick points.
Looking back at the PS2, I busted my ass to 100% Kingdom Hearts II to see a special video at the end that I could easily see on youtube. I played through this insane tournament in game and got by by the skin of my teeth. I did it and the only thing I have is a memory. A trophy would be something I can display.
In that regard, as I'm stream-of-conscious here, I guess I don't them as anything other than virtual trophy cases. People earn trophies, medals, ribbons, and plaques in real life for their accomplishments and honors. Why should gaming be excluded? Why is taking pride in what you do and what you play nerdy? Why does it always come down to e-peen? Sure, I'm not saying everyone who plays games should care about this stuff. But I'm also don't think it's appropriate for those that don't care to chastise those that do care.
Both ways of gaming are fun for the player.
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Also, I have no interest in the "e-peen" aspect of trophies, but I do like to compare mine to other people I know just to see what they've played. As in, hey, you have a bunch of trophies for GAME X...how was that? Or, hey, he got a platinum in GAME Y, so he must've really liked it.
In that regard, as I'm stream-of-conscious here, I guess I don't them as anything other than virtual trophy cases. People earn trophies, medals, ribbons, and plaques in real life for their accomplishments and honors. Why should gaming be excluded? Why is taking pride in what you do and what you play nerdy? Why does it always come down to e-peen? Sure, I'm not saying everyone who plays games should care about this stuff. But I'm also don't think it's appropriate for those that don't care to chastise those that do care.
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I just consider the trophies to be a part of beating the game. I've beat GTA IV, got 100% complete in the actual game, but I'm still playing it because I'm missing 4 trophies. Three of them are online and of course the Platinum. I really don't care who sees what trophies I have, I do it because I want that platinum trophy in every game I own.
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The layout may have been the same but some little things could have been different. It could have been more ergonomic than the DS and it could have had real triggers or better analogs for all we know but we won't because Sony decided to listen to internet chatter.