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Curse_7781 05-21-09 11:32 AM

Metal Gear Next?
 
I'm sure everyone has seen the countdown for the Next Metal Gear game but here's something we can all discuss...

Here's a news article from a n4g.com which took it from onelastcontinue.com:



As we all know, Kojima Productions is counting down to a reveal of a new title; the countdown timer ends in roughly nine hours, but rumor has it another will soon take its place. Has Japan’s 7-11 spoiled the announcement for everyone? Count this under rumor for the time being, but one clever poster on NeoGAF has uncovered something quite interesting.

On 7Andy, the Japanese retail arm of 7-Eleven, a listing has been put up for next week’s issue of Famitsu PSP + PS3, set to hit store shelves on May 30th. Listed in the table of contents is what translates, literally, to “New Metal Gear”. Could Kojima’s next project be a Playstation game? He’s already developed multiple PSP games, and the engine that powers Metal Gear Solid 4 was certainly not cheap to produce; it would make sense for Kojima’s next game to appear on either system. With the countdown timer ticking away and no hints appearing as of yet, it seems the best thing gamers can do is to wait and see how this all turns out; after all, E3 starts in less than two weeks, and this supposed issue of Famitsu lands in Japan two days before the show.
IMO, a new Metal Gear game on PS3 sounds more reasonable as Konami stated that they made more money in the PS3 than in other consoles...

PopcornTreeCt 05-21-09 11:46 AM

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Seriously...

The hype they create is unbelievable.

RocShemp 05-21-09 11:57 PM

Re: Metal Gear Next?
 
I don't get all the excitement. Yes, I've played and enjoyed each [home console] game in the series but not once was I so super excited. Kinda like how fans would go apeshit over Kojima's claim each sequel that someone else will take over. I dunno how anyone could seriously believe him.

And although I had a great time with MGS4, it quickly felt outdated. I've been going through the series since MGS1 and other than graphically, the leap from game to game hasn't been all that great. Sure, MGS1 was a big deal coming from MG1 and MG2. However, MGS2 was essentially MGS1 with a newer graphics engine, the ability to drag and hide bodies, and more useful first person view mode. MGS3 felt like a more complete game but all it really added was a few extra grapple moves. MGS4 wasn't that big a gameplay leap from MGS3, either. Other than being able to buy and upgrade weapons and an FPS-lite view mode, there wasn't that much of an innovation.

I'm not denying all four games were fun (once you get passed the fact that Kojima is in love with his terrible narratives) but my excitement has certainly diminished. I look forward to another MGS but not with the same ammount of thrill I do for Uncharted 2. Assasins Creed 2 or another Call of Duty.

I don't mean this as a thread crap since I am a fan of the series but I hope either Kojima has a gamplay epiphany or some new blood takes over this franchise.

ultimaton 05-22-09 12:36 AM

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Why wouldn't fans of the series be excited for another Metal Gear?

RocShemp 05-22-09 01:06 AM

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Just because I'm a fan of the series doesn't mean I have to be excited for another outing.

But, so as to better elaborate, I'm not excited since the last game wasn't the great experience I was looking for. Yes, it was fun but nothing compared to all the hype it got. I think the only game in the series that lived up to its hype was MGS3. It had solid gameplay, the story rarely got in the way, and I felt like I really experienced something wonderful and was eager to head back in right away. I still find myself going back to it.

MGS4 had me at first. That's why I went through all the different difficulty modes. However, the more I played, the more I realize how outdated and rather sloppy a lot of it was. The heavily publicized graphics have poor textures and iffy animation. The actual gamplay seemed limiting (compared to other current games) because Snake couldn't climb over an obstacle because it was chest high (and I'm not even asking for Assassin's Creed style climbing) which was rather silly. The story segments (cutscenes and codec calls) were at their most obnoxious. I didn't skip those cos I wanted to know what the hell was going on but on subsequent playthroughs I find myself skipping all the useless "intel" and endless rambling from the secondary characters. Don't get me started on the sloppy controls during the final boss fight.

I do love the audio. That was fantastic. And I don't deny the game is fun (to a point). It's just not great. I'll play the game from time to time but it's not a game that immediately comes to mind when I happen to be in the mood to play a game.

RocShemp 05-22-09 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkestPhoenix (Post 9459541)
Because the story is tired.

It used to be about a badass Solid Snake from the 80s just ruining people's shit, now it's a three hour video diatribe about how nuclear weapons are bad. Oh, and how your favorite character from the series is a busted up old bastard from years of hard living.


Originally Posted by DarkestPhoenix (Post 9459546)
Oh, and while I loved the first Playstation game, (and Nintendo, though I could never beat the bastard) they should really seek to revolutionize the gameplay a bit, because it too is tired, becoming boring and outdated while titles I used to hate (CoD) are becoming the standard of awesomeness.

If you would permit me, I would like to happily co-sign both these statements. :up:

JohnSlider 05-22-09 01:20 AM

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Metal Gear Online is my favorite multiplayer game, I will gladly shell out a small fortune for a new installment if it comes with the online multiplayer shooter.

Supermallet 05-22-09 02:12 AM

Re: Metal Gear Next?
 
So now there's a new countdown, starting at 120 hours. Behind the countdown flashes the symbols "5 @ e 3" or "5@E3." On the other hand, knowing Kojima, that has an equal chance of not meaning MGS5 will be debuted at E3.

Bandit03 05-22-09 07:32 PM

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It's not a matter of if MGS5 will be announced but a matter of when. Having that said, I'm really hoping for the next MGS to start a completely new story with new characters (slim chances I know)

darkside 05-22-09 10:08 PM

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I loved 4 and I typically hate stealth games. I definitely want a new Metal Gear, but hopefully in a bit different direction. Not sure what else they can do with Snake after 4.

RocShemp 05-23-09 01:38 AM

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I'd like a new entry without Snake and with a totally different approach to gameplay. It's too bad they botched Raiden in his first outing because he'd be fun to play in his MGS4 incarnation. Unfortunately, I don't see Kojima making the major leap required to not make playing him feel restrictive. I fear a Twin Snakes scenario where the lead character has an amazing moveset in the cinematics but just a standard punch-punch-kick attack style when under player control.

They should really look at what Naughty Dog is doing with Uncharted 2 and what Ubisoft is doing with Assassin's Creed 2. Combine the two and add a totally new character reminicent of Raiden in MGS4 (in terms of his moveset) and you'd have the gameplay for a kickass MGS5.

But keep Kojima far away from the actual writing. He can make up the characters and scenario but hire a real writer and a real editor to work on the story aspect of the game. There's no excuse to halt the game for a 10 - 20 minute cutscene and a lengthy codec conversation. I like the Splinter Cell approach to radio transmissions. You get them as you play. MGS4 teased with this in parts but mostly stuck to the "stop the game so you can listen to me drone on" approach. It didn't help that the dialogue was dreadful.

RocShemp 06-22-09 09:15 AM

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So the new game is to be called Metal Sear Solid RISING. Presumably Raiden is to be the star and it's to take place between MGS2 and MGS4. However, certain fans have noted the eye color is all wrong to be Raiden and actually matches Sunny's eye colour. So the fan theory is that it actually stars Sunny. Of course, given it's a prequel, the lead character is as obvious as Big Boss was for MGS3. The lead character is Olga. The diagonal strap across the forehead is undoubtedly covering the bullet hole from the headshot she received from Solidus Snake in MGS2. So they probably pulled a Gray Fox on her and in the end of the game she most likely bites it to save Raiden. Unless they're pulling a fake marketing maneuver like MGS2 (which featured Snake in most of the trailers to hide the fact that Raiden was to be the star of that game), I'm pretty certain about my theory.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3...tal-gear/50036

http://xbox360.ign.com/objects/143/14354401.html

http://kotaku.com/5274844/metal-gear...box-360-ps3-pc

Apparently Hideo Kojima claims he wont be involved this time around. Then again, he said he wasn't to be involved in MGS2, 3, or 4. In each of those case the team "begged him to come back". I bet he never left. Personally, I think Hideo Kojima is Japanese for "bullshit".

Bandit03 06-22-09 07:43 PM

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I've heard of the Sunny theory, but the Olga theory you just mentioned makes a lot of sense. Maybe it starts off as Olga, and ends with Raiden saving Sunny.

RocShemp 06-25-09 10:11 AM

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What you suggest sounds like an MGS2 scenario (the first part of the game was with Snake and the latter with Raiden). Yeah, I can see that happening.


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