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Kijdhefgi 02-23-09 06:30 PM

Re: Rock Band: Official Thread
 

Originally Posted by Liver&Onions (Post 9286928)
Laughable because i view altering games as a cheat/breaking the user experience that was the intended way to play?

Fun fact: Harmonix never intended Breakneck Speed to be in the game. One of their programmers snuck it in before gold and it wasn't caught until release. They're actually really adamant about people using it since they never wanted it in the game in the first place.

Also, you're only allowed to play on 42" TVs as all others have different sized notes and they come down the screen at different speeds so that's cheating.

Seriously, man? You have a decent point to make, but mod or not, dropping f-bombs and sarcasm is pretty childish, don't you think?

devilshalo 02-23-09 06:54 PM

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I understand L&O's pov... it's like getting into a CoD or GoW tournament and being able to glitch. :shrug:

I've never tried using superfantasticalmegadropdeadludicrousspeed for Rock Band.

hail2dking 02-23-09 07:01 PM

Re: Rock Band: Official Thread
 

Originally Posted by Liver&Onions (Post 9286928)
I'm starting a new contest, people can play one of three games that I choose then I will pick a winner based on a score that really doesn't mean anything because the people can play on one of 4 difficulty levels, and one of 4 different methods of play, with or without cheats. Who wants in?

I'm in...can it be this game?

flashburn 02-23-09 07:05 PM

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Oh, sweet, I started up another argument about Hyperspeed being a cheat! Excellent. Should I be at all surprised that it was L&O that started it again? No, I'm not. Just had to bait the trap. :lol:

rabbit77 02-23-09 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Shagrath (Post 9282973)
To answer the questions:

Corvin: I hadn't even planned on adding myself to the mix. I didn't feel it was fair for me to create the challenges and participate in them. This is something I'm doing just for the community.

devilshalo: I was just thinking score-based on this first challenge. I can't really think of a good way of factoring in different difficulties. Score obviously doesn't work, and neither does streak. I don't think there are going to be enough participants to really have separate tiers for the challenge "leaderboard", so to speak.

If anyone has any inputs on how to make this better, let me know.


I know this is your thing, Shag, but I think a good "prize" for first place is that the winner gets to create and host (but not participate in) the next challenge. That way you can get in on subsequent challenges.

Liver&Onions 02-23-09 07:15 PM

Re: Rock Band: Official Thread
 

Originally Posted by Kijdhefgi (Post 9287008)
Fun fact: Harmonix never intended Breakneck Speed to be in the game. One of their programmers snuck it in before gold and it wasn't caught until release. They're actually really adamant about people using it since they never wanted it in the game in the first place.

Seriously, man? You have a decent point to make, but mod or not, dropping f-bombs and sarcasm is pretty childish, don't you think?

Adamant about people using it, or not using it?

And yes - i use sarcasm. And yes, I swear. In real life too!


Originally Posted by hail2dking (Post 9287098)
I'm in...can it be this game?

Looks great! Are there cheats?


Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 9287102)
Oh, sweet, I started up another argument about Hyperspeed being a cheat! Excellent. Should I be at all surprised that it was L&O that started it again? No, I'm not. Just had to bait the trap. :lol:

Oh, so it was a troll then? Guess that's ground for suspension. ;)

But seriously, since when can someone not have a differing opinion from - he guys who take rock band seriously? it's just that, my personal opinion. Just like some people will think it's the opposite of mine.

Shagrath 02-23-09 07:17 PM

Re: Rock Band: Official Thread
 

Originally Posted by rabbit77 (Post 9287112)
I know this is your thing, Shag, but I think a good "prize" for first place is that the winner gets to create and host (but not participate in) the next challenge. That way you can get in on subsequent challenges.

That's not a bad idea, but I really don't care about being in on the challenges. I just want to liven up the community.

Plus, I don't want to burden someone else with creating the next challenge, or relying on them to do so. I was in on the "Pig Mask" thing in Otter where someone bought a pig mask off eBay and they sent it to users around the world taking pictures of it, and then one guy got it and just fucking kept it.

I know the challenges are just text, and I could come up with another one if someone fell through, but it's really not a big deal. Also, I'm running the same challenge on another board and they don't care if I participate there, as I'm not "top dog" or whatever.

Shagrath 02-23-09 07:21 PM

Re: Rock Band: Official Thread
 

Originally Posted by Liver&Onions (Post 9287123)
But seriously, since when can someone not have a differing opinion from - he guys who take rock band seriously? it's just that, my personal opinion. Just like some people will think it's the opposite of mine.

You can have your opinion. It's just that this isn't a live tourney or anything. Everyone has the right to play the challenge the way they see fit (on the instruments and difficulties they choose). Playing with Hyperspeed on on a 42" TV is probably close to the same as without Hyperspeed on a 10' projector. You're playing the notes at the exact same time, it's just that they're scrolling at different speeds. It's all a preference in viewing, like turning the gamma up or down on a game.

flashburn 02-23-09 07:54 PM

Re: Rock Band: Official Thread
 

Originally Posted by Liver&Onions (Post 9287123)
But seriously, since when can someone not have a differing opinion from - he guys who take rock band seriously? it's just that, my personal opinion. Just like some people will think it's the opposite of mine.

Yep, that is fine. Just as long as you realize your opinion is wrong.
Spoiler:
;)

Michael Corvin 02-23-09 08:06 PM

Re: Rock Band: Official Thread
 

Originally Posted by Shagrath (Post 9286918)
I just know your feelings on the Hyperspead/Breakneck "cheat", and well, it's laughable.

If everyone has the option to use/not use it, then it's a moot point.

:doh:

<--- skips next 50 posts. Should be enough padding to make it to the end of the Hyperspeed debate.

Liver&Onions 02-23-09 08:56 PM

Re: Rock Band: Official Thread
 

Originally Posted by Shagrath (Post 9287134)
like turning the gamma up or down on a game.

slayer?

Shagrath 02-24-09 08:01 AM

Re: Rock Band: Official Thread
 
Guitar vids are updated into post #2. Drum vids are incorrect right now due to them not being uploaded, and the way my automation works.

Also, current challenge has migrated over to Post #4. I'll be posting up the new challenges there as we move along, as well as the results.

pinata242 02-24-09 08:46 AM

Re: Rock Band: Official Thread
 

Originally Posted by hail2dking (Post 9287098)
I'm in...can it be this game?

http://achievements.schrankmonster.d...%20101%20Award

Shagrath 02-24-09 10:51 AM

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Rock Band coming to PSP???

http://www.gaming-age.com/news/2009/2/24-58


Publisher support for the PSP system will continue throughout the year with Rock Band Unplugged, launching exclusively on PSP. MTV Games and Harmonix announced separately that gamers will be able to take Rock Band Unplugged on the road with the first ever portable version of the popular music and gaming experience. Rock Band Unplugged will take center stage as it leverages the PSP system's Wi-Fi capabilities and becomes the first PSP game to include a fully-featured in-game store for downloadable content in the North American and Europeans markets.
While it does seem more full-featured than the DS GH games, I still say WTF to it.

UncleGramps 02-24-09 10:55 AM

Re: Rock Band: Official Thread
 

Originally Posted by Shagrath (Post 9288213)
Rock Band coming to PSP???

http://www.gaming-age.com/news/2009/2/24-58



While it does seem more full-featured than the DS GH games, I still say WTF to it.

Bah. I'll reserve final judgment until we see more details, but I really liked Harmonix's "less is more" approach to releases. This just seems like a money grab.

Shagrath 02-24-09 10:59 AM

Re: Rock Band: Official Thread
 

Originally Posted by UncleGramps (Post 9288226)
Bah. I'll reserve final judgment until we see more details, but I really liked Harmonix's "less is more" approach to releases. This just seems like a money grab.

I will also reserve final judgment until we get more info. However, we can assume some things.

- The online store will allow for expandability without having to pump out titles every 4-6 months
- Being on the PSP would also allow for the game to be patched for new features, right? (I don't own a PSP)

pinata242 02-24-09 11:01 AM

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Does the PSP support accessories?

I can't imagine this will be "Rock Band" as we know it. Maybe it's an RPG?

UncleGramps 02-24-09 11:10 AM

Re: Rock Band: Official Thread
 

Originally Posted by Shagrath (Post 9288234)
I will also reserve final judgment until we get more info. However, we can assume some things.

- The online store will allow for expandability without having to pump out titles every 4-6 months
- Being on the PSP would also allow for the game to be patched for new features, right? (I don't own a PSP)

Definitely agree with your first point.

As for the 2nd one, I know that the PSP's firmware can be updated. I've never heard of a PSP game getting patched, but I don't know for a fact that it couldn't be done. :shrug:

Unless the PSP version can do something really new and interesting, I can't see myself getting it. Rock Band, even more than Guitar Hero's earlier guitar-only games, seems so well-suited to consoles and so poorly-suited to portables that I can't imagine how this will be enticing to anyone who owns a home console in addition to a PSP.

Imprint 02-24-09 11:25 AM

Re: Rock Band: Official Thread
 
Saw this article at digg:

http://www.wired.com/culture/culture...17-03/st_essay

This is what I found interesting (although not confirmed):

"The money Warner receives for the use of its songs is "paltry," he said, and if the gamemakers don't pony up more cash, "we will not license to those games." In response, Rock Band publisher MTV Games is now boycotting Warner artists, according to a source close to the negotiations."

lordwow 02-24-09 11:42 AM

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Guys Guys Guys. Chill Out. Journey is not a Warner artist.

Shagrath 02-24-09 11:58 AM

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More news on Rock Band Unplugged

http://www.primotechnology.com/2009/...d-for-the-psp/


Gamespot may have turned the very concept of it into an April Fool’s gag, but EA will indeed be releasing a PSP-exclusive entry in its Rock Band franchise later this year. Primotech has learned that Rock Band Unplugged, as it’s titled, is currently in development at Backbone Entertainment (Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix, 1942: Joint Strike) and will mark the third release in MTV Games and EA’s burgeoning series of music video games.

The gameplay is largely the same as that of Rock Band and Rock Band 2; players must hit corresponding buttons in-time as they scroll by on-screen. There will not be a peripheral attachment available, like that which Activision produced for Guitar Hero: On Tour for the Nintendo DS. Instead, all input is handled by the ‘Left,’ ‘Up,’ ‘Triangle,’ and ‘Circle’ buttons. The player can switch between guitar, drums, bass, and “vocals” (although he won’t physically be singing, merely tapping buttons) using the L and R shoulder buttons.

Tracks are broken down into what are called “phrases.” Play a phrase perfectly to earn a multiplier boost and a prompt to switch to a different instrument. The player can actually choose to switch instruments at anytime, but switching prematurely will cause him to lose his multiplier. “Overdrive,” used to rack up big points and avoid failing a track, is of course included as always.

The game will ship with tracks from Blink 182, Boston, AFI, Kansas, Lit, and The Police. DLC tracks will be made available through the PlayStation Network and can be accessed through the game’s own built-in store. Multiplayer functionality will not be available. Visually, the style and feel of Rock Band is maintained perfectly, with only a drop-off in the polygon count.

Look for an official announcement soon. Based on its current development progress, we surmise the game should ship to retail by year’s end.
This is essentially Frequency/Amplitude with the Rock Band name thrown on. I loved this game back in the day.

superfro 02-24-09 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Imprint (Post 9288300)
"The money Warner receives for the use of its songs is "paltry," he said, and if the gamemakers don't pony up more cash, "we will not license to those games." In response, Rock Band publisher MTV Games is now boycotting Warner artists, according to a source close to the negotiations."

So "no money" is better than "not enough money". Makes sense Warner. :rolleyes:

(Not to mention what popularity in RB/GH does for bands and their music on the back end outside of the game. Duh.)

edstein 02-24-09 12:04 PM

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The PSP 3000 does have a built in mic that the 2000 and 1000 models do not. That could pose a compatibility problem or at a minimum require an external mic adapter for vocals.

edit: Now I see actually singing is not part of the game. Lame!

Shagrath 02-24-09 12:08 PM

Re: Rock Band: Official Thread
 

Originally Posted by edstein (Post 9288401)
The PSP 3000 does have a built in mic that the 2000 and 1000 models do not. That could pose a compatibility problem or at a minimum require an external mic adapter for vocals.

My link above says you won't actually be singing or guitaring or drumming. This seems to be just a remake of Amplitude with the Rock Band name thrown on for recognition. It sounds like exactly the same gaming concept.

UncleGramps 02-24-09 12:15 PM

Re: Rock Band: Official Thread
 

Originally Posted by Shagrath (Post 9288408)
My link above says you won't actually be singing or guitaring or drumming. This seems to be just a remake of Amplitude with the Rock Band name thrown on for recognition. It sounds like exactly the same gaming concept.

Still waiting to see some gameplay videos, but Amplitude/Frequency with a Rock Band skin? Do want. :D


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