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musick 02-06-09 04:43 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 
some more impressions:



- like how the pitcher now gets a jacket when running the bases

- demo defaults to catcher view when pitching ... I like pitcher view so had to change this

- still issues with collision detection (catcher walking through parts of the batter when throwing the ball back to the pitcher)



has anyone seen pitch track in this years game yet?
EDIT: finally saw a swing track animation

hdtv00 02-06-09 06:50 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 
I'll tell ya I hate baseball for the most part. Or at least don't care about it much. But games like this really are an amazing piece of work. I mean jesus this game(demo) is SLICK.

cruzness 02-06-09 07:02 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 
I can't wait. I'll be asking the wife for this for my birthday.

SonOfAStu 02-06-09 10:35 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 
Played through the demo tonight. It was too much the same as '08 for me. Is it better? Sure, I guess. I can read all the improvements. But I didn't experience them enough to drop another $60 on it when I can still play '08. Will the '08 rosters still update?

NiCK Crush 02-07-09 02:19 AM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 

Originally Posted by Rob V (Post 9248731)
My only complaint about last years game was that you couldn't really tell if a pitch was going to be a ball or strike..

Sure you could.

NiCK Crush 02-07-09 02:23 AM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 

Originally Posted by SonOfAStu (Post 9250702)
Played through the demo tonight. It was too much the same as '08 for me. Is it better? Sure, I guess. I can read all the improvements. But I didn't experience them enough to drop another $60 on it when I can still play '08. Will the '08 rosters still update?

the new Road to the Show will be worth the price of admission alone.

NiCK Crush 02-07-09 02:33 AM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 
the player animations are incredible as well... a major improvement.

Fandango 02-07-09 02:36 AM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 
My fielder did the jump throw, pretty cool.

SonOfAStu 02-07-09 09:16 AM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 

Originally Posted by NiCK Crush (Post 9250895)
the new Road to the Show will be worth the price of admission alone.

I don't have enough free time to play a mode like that. I'd likely just start a regular season and sim 1/3 of the games anyway to make it through.

bunkaroo 02-07-09 10:45 AM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 
Man can't wait for this. Took me two seasons to get my left fielder to the bigs but man it was sweet when the White Sox finally called him up. :)

Demo looked and played great IMO. Really excited about the new features.

NiCK Crush 02-07-09 12:33 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 

Originally Posted by SonOfAStu (Post 9251060)
I don't have enough free time to play a mode like that. I'd likely just start a regular season and sim 1/3 of the games anyway to make it through.

i see...

Well, its your call. At least give the full game a rental and see everything the game has to offer for yourself. The demo can only show ya so much.

SonOfAStu 02-07-09 02:10 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 
If Sony doesn't let you keep getting roster updates for '08, I'm sure I'll eventually buy it or trade for it sometime down the line. I just won't be spending $60 on release day like I did last year.

Rob V 02-07-09 03:08 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 

Sure you could.
Wow, very insightful. I guess you just have more hand / eye coordination than I do :)

NiCK Crush 02-08-09 01:12 AM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 

Originally Posted by Rob V (Post 9251635)
Wow, very insightful. I guess you just have more hand / eye coordination than I do :)

Ha, sorry. I didn't really know how to explain. I don't do anything special, I just play 08 all the time. I had a hard time with it in the beginning, but I've really mastered it since.

TheKing 02-08-09 04:36 AM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 

Originally Posted by nickdawgy (Post 9185157)
I wonder when people will stop saying that's the best baseball game ever. MLB 08 was the best baseball game I ever played, and even MLB Power Pros 2008 was more fun than MVP 2005.

Don't get me wrong, MVP 2005 was great. But it's worn out its welcome.

It's not that MVP 05 was the best game ever, it's that it was the last PC baseball game released. The game continues to maintain its legacy due to the fact that there is a large community out there continuing to make improvements to the game, and keep it up to date, including the addition of new stadiums that didn't exist when the game came out.

PC gaming allows for a level of realism that can't be touched on a console: the ability to mod. That ability is just so limited on consoles. I'm sorry, but I just love being able to see the real ads in stadiums, they look so much better than the repetitive ones used in the games when they are released. I understand why the gaming companies have to do it, but the ability to fix this is what PC gaming is all about.

But MVP '05 is going to finally have a challenger for the throne: MLB 2K9 is being released on PC. If it ends up being as modable as MVP '05 turned out to be, you'll see MVP fade into the sunset. It was a great game, but the PC market for baseball tends to go where the modders go. We modded High Heat, then moved to MVP, and now I can us heading to MLB.

nickdawgy 02-08-09 06:55 AM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 
Yeah but if MLB 2k9 is anything like 2k8 was, updated ads or not, it won't hold a candle to The Show.

Rob V 02-08-09 09:20 AM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 

Ha, sorry. I didn't really know how to explain. I don't do anything special, I just play 08 all the time. I had a hard time with it in the beginning, but I've really mastered it since.
I know I'm dating myself here, but back in the day on the PC, Front Page Sports Baseball had a tiny red/green indicator on the ball when it left the pitchers hand. Red = ball, green = strike. If you blinked or didn't pay very close attention, you missed it.

I'd like to see The Show incorporate this... or at least have an option because I'm lucky to actually play 25% of the games in a season.

NiCK Crush 02-08-09 10:27 AM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 

Originally Posted by Rob V (Post 9252560)
I know I'm dating myself here, but back in the day on the PC, Front Page Sports Baseball had a tiny red/green indicator on the ball when it left the pitchers hand. Red = ball, green = strike. If you blinked or didn't pay very close attention, you missed it.

I'd like to see The Show incorporate this... or at least have an option because I'm lucky to actually play 25% of the games in a season.

I remember that game, definitely wouldn't be a horrible idea. One thing I definitely do alot in The Show, is check swing. Try that more often and you may find yourself walking a bit more.

musick 02-09-09 12:20 AM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 
has anyone gone back to playing 08 after downloading this demo and had issues
I can't get past the "press start button" screen on 08
it locks up and I cannot even access the XMB

don't know if this is related to the 09 demo since I haven't played 08 in awhile

anyone?

EDIT: after doing some research online it looks like this was a major issue with the game
odd as I have had the game since launch and didn't have any issues
however I did get a replacement for my current router (same brand/model) and maybe that is causing the issue
I read the only work around is to disable network connection
this is fine if it works as I don't plan on playing 08 online but will be an issue if the same problem is present in 09

had to change the Primary DSN # on my Belkin router to not match the Default Router #.... now all is good

Fandango 02-09-09 12:21 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 
It still works, it just takes a while, it will try to look for a network connection and then let you play.

http://www.digitalfoundry.org/blog/?p=407

musick 02-09-09 01:54 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 

Originally Posted by Fandango (Post 9254500)
It still works, it just takes a while, it will try to look for a network connection and then let you play.

http://www.digitalfoundry.org/blog/?p=407

without the steps I took in my EDIT it absolutely would not work

as to the linked article it all sounds good but from the screen shots given it appears the author is only speaking about the demo and I'm not sure it was always running at 60 FPS as there were some hicups

NiCK Crush 02-09-09 02:42 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 
Hitting does seem to be more of a challenge in 09, but I face this problem with every new year of the Show. I'm just so used to 08 that the little differences are enough for me to go into a horrible hitting slump haha.

Can't wait for the actual game to come out so I can get the hang of this.

bunkaroo 02-09-09 03:30 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 
^^^^

No kidding - I think I had one hit in the three innings of play on the demo, but at least I walked once which is something I rarely did in 08.

CPU base running was fairly aggressive. Guy on first stole 2nd on my second pitch, and the stole 3rd on the next pitch. Kind of pissed me off so I plunked the batter in the head. :)

musick 02-09-09 03:34 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 
when it comes to baserunning I had what I think was a glitch
2 times I had a man on third and both times the guy tried to steal home without (intentional) prompting

I think maybe it had to do with the guess pitch option and stealing controls possibly getting crossed up .... not sure

Fandango 02-09-09 03:50 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 
musick, let it sit for about 5 mins, probably less and it should say network connection not found.

musick 02-09-09 03:56 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 

Originally Posted by Fandango (Post 9255061)
musick, let it sit for about 5 mins, probably less and it should say network connection not found.

thanx Fandango but I already had adjusted my network settings last night when I came across the problem
I don't think letting it sit any longer would have helped as I mentioned it freezes up the system and locks up access to the XMB

nothing I read in searching this [commonly reported] issue indicated to me letting it sit for a couple minutes more would have resolved this issue

Setzer 02-09-09 04:23 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 

Originally Posted by TheKing (Post 9252467)
It's not that MVP 05 was the best game ever, it's that it was the last PC baseball game released. The game continues to maintain its legacy due to the fact that there is a large community out there continuing to make improvements to the game, and keep it up to date, including the addition of new stadiums that didn't exist when the game came out.

PC gaming allows for a level of realism that can't be touched on a console: the ability to mod. That ability is just so limited on consoles. I'm sorry, but I just love being able to see the real ads in stadiums, they look so much better than the repetitive ones used in the games when they are released. I understand why the gaming companies have to do it, but the ability to fix this is what PC gaming is all about.

But MVP '05 is going to finally have a challenger for the throne: MLB 2K9 is being released on PC. If it ends up being as modable as MVP '05 turned out to be, you'll see MVP fade into the sunset. It was a great game, but the PC market for baseball tends to go where the modders go. We modded High Heat, then moved to MVP, and now I can us heading to MLB.

If MLB2k9 is anything like 2k8 then MVP '05 has nothing to worry about.

I need to check out MVP '05 for the PC with the latest '08 mod -- I've seen screen shots and it looks really good. I'm still playing MVP '05 on my Xbox.

Goat3001 02-11-09 11:55 AM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 

Originally Posted by NiCK Crush (Post 9252637)
One thing I definitely do alot in The Show, is check swing. Try that more often and you may find yourself walking a bit more.

:up:

With the Show, unless I'm taking a pitch the whole way, I'm either swinging or check swinging. I got to the point where I mastered the check swing that it would never be called a full swing. That always helped me figure out balls and strikes because I had more time to process it. I used to walk plenty of times in the 08 version.

DaveWadding 02-11-09 12:11 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 

Originally Posted by Setzer (Post 9255143)
If MLB2k9 is anything like 2k8 then MVP '05 has nothing to worry about.

I need to check out MVP '05 for the PC with the latest '08 mod -- I've seen screen shots and it looks really good. I'm still playing MVP '05 on my Xbox.

Yeah really, I tried to play the 2k series the past few years. Really does nothing for me.

and MVP 08 is awesome.

musick 02-11-09 04:15 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 

Attention To Details: The Little Things That Help MLB 09 The Show Shine
Posted by Greg Batalucco // Designer, MLB
Hey everyone, Greg Batalucco (Game Designer) and Clayton Read (Associate Producer) here to bring you the next installment of the MLB 09 The Show blogs. This entry will focus on all the little details added this year to The Show that give it an added touch of realism. For this year’s version we wanted to make the game as accurate as possible and included in MLB 09 The Show are actual team mascots, new and improved stadium jumbotrons with game related movies, K boards, realistic crowds, and improved lighting and skies throughout the stadiums. All these enhancements add to the overall gaming experience to make MLB 09 The Show as real as it gets.

watch video here>>> http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/...he-show-shine/

One of the main things we wanted to accomplish this year is to add as much realism to the stadiums and the crowd as possible. We’ve listened to what the community has been telling us: “We want that same experience that we get at a real ballgame, the look and sounds of the crowd, accurate and detailed stadiums, the smell of popcorn and hotdogs, etc.” Well we can’t add in smells (or can we?) but you can imagine. We devoted many, many hours of research to get everything as realistic and accurate in detail as possible in hopes of making it seem like you are actually at the game. We want your friend, spouse or whomever, to walk in the room while you are playing the game and say ,“Hey what game are you watching on TV.” That’s how real it is! In this blog we will go over a few of the things that help to make MLB 09 The Show the most realistic baseball game ever.

Mascots
As both kids and adults we’ve laughed at, and had fun with, team mascots. They always make us feel young and truly enhance the ambiance of a live baseball game. This year in The Show you get to watch as your favorite mascots come to life. Thanks to the brilliant work by The Show’s character artists (and some interesting MOCAP sessions) you can see the Phillie Phanatic get the crowd fired up, Mr. Met dance on top of the dugouts and Bernie Brewer slide down his slide to the amusement of everyone at the game. You can also spot the Swinging Friar cheering by the rally bell, The Bird getting Orioles’ fans out of their seats and Wally the Green Monster leading a “Let’s go, Red Sox” chant. In over 20 stadiums, these mascots will help entertain and make each game more real and enjoyable. So whether it’s razzing the visiting players, having a dance competition with a few lucky (or not so lucky) fans or just trying to score a few laughs, the mascots will undoubtedly be something fun to watch out for in MLB 09 The Show.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3303/...6e4746e0_m.jpg

Jumbotrons and Videos
For years we have talked about sprucing up our in-game jumbotrons. Yes, we did say sprucing. This year we took it upon ourselves to view every MLB stadium and get a good idea of what each stadium showed. Combing through countless hours of MLB video and artist photos we got a good feel of how we wanted to layout realistic jumbotrons. As you will see, the new jumbotrons throughout the MLB stadiums in The Show will show full statistics, lineups, pitcher matchups and anything you might see at a real MLB game. Another must-have feature that consumers asked for was added this year - game related videos. Go to any real life baseball game and watch your favorite home town pitcher strikeout a batter or favorite slugger hit a home run. Well, what do you see on the jumbotron? A really cool video that rocks out! From homerun and RBI videos, to “get loud” crowd meter and “stand up” videos which pump up the crowd, all these elements of realism go into making MLB 09 The Show true to life.

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Crowds
Every development cycle we find little things we’d like to improve on. One thing in particular this year was to get a better and more accurate crowd. What I mean by this is getting fans to actually wear the appropriate clothing, cheer at the right moments with the right level of sound and show up to the ballpark in real to life attendance figures. To do this we watched many hours of MLB games to view the crowds and get an idea of attendance levels for each team versus every other team it could possibly face. For example, a Red Sox/Yankees game should always be packed, and depending on where it is, Fenway Park or Yankee Stadium, there should be a mix of both fans. Now if you’re playing a game down in Florida with the Marlins, well you’re not going to see as many fans and you just might see more fans of the visiting team on certain days or nights. Crowd accuracy was a big thing added this year and we wanted to get as much detail into it as possible.

Another area we wanted to get more accurate was the clothing crowds wore to each game throughout an MLB season and fans leaving during a game. First, in dealing with fans’ clothing, we wanted to make sure they weren’t wearing t-shirts and shorts in April in, Detroit! Each team was charted out by looking at weather forecasts for each city and every month that a baseball teams plays. So now you will see fans in pants and warm jackets at appropriate times of an MLB season. Maybe even a few earmuffs! As well as in San Diego, most fans will be in warm weather attire, but once the sun sets, break out the jackets…burr!! What you might wear at a game for your favorite team is what our crowd will wear.

Secondly, in dealing with crowds leaving early from a game, we have gone through each team, their attendance levels, scores of games, who they are playing at the time and figured out when they would get up and say enough is enough, my team is getting blown out! As you can imagine, there are the die-hards out there and we track it, so no matter what, these fans always stay and support their team. And finally, we have added fans walking up, down and in and out of the aisles throughout each MLB stadium. Fans will also be seen milling around the concession areas and actual vendors are walking around the stadiums. So grab a hot dog and soda, because the little things matter to our team and hopefully you’ll notice these little details as well.

NEW LED and K boards
When you head out to the ballparks these days, you notice that each stadium has a unique look and feel. What we wanted to do is replicate this for our fans by having all the LED boards and K signs that real stadiums have. Fans can view every statistical category imaginable throughout our stadiums with the new LED boards that range from batter and pitcher stats to lineups and pitch count boards. Watch as the boards change and give you updated information for every batter and pitcher. Also, each stadium either has a section where the fans put up K signs or an LED K sign board. These track every K for the home team pitcher so look for this as you rack up the strikeouts. Hopefully you stat junkies out there will love the little added details and accurate statistical displays throughout each and every stadium!

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1318/...2e02d329_m.jpg http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1335/...5cccf7aa_m.jpg

Lighting
When you play baseball, you want to feel like you’re watching a game, not a video game. For MLB09, the lighting methods were rebuilt from ground up to make everything fit together naturally. Employing Global Lighting techniques, we light the stadium using the sky, then turn around and light the players with the sky and stadium. This makes players feel like they belong to the part of the stadium they are standing in front of. Keep an eye on color, reflections and highlights on players as they move through the environment. Also watch the dirt as every step and slide of a long game shows itself, and as chalk lines get disturbed. Day time games vary over your season, from the soft feel of a cloudy sky, to the harsh rays of a clear summer day, and even overcast days if the time and place is right. Night games are now true to life as we capture those long shadows which stretch across the field at the start, stretching farther until finally the sun goes down and the stadium is fully lit by its own lights. How dark it is at the start of the game depends on the day of the year so don’t be surprised if your spring training game is dark at 7pm. All of these little details add together to help immerse you in the game, and bring you back to the core - playing hardball.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1214/...f81d03aaab.jpg

Player Accessories
A key theme throughout this development cycle was realism, from stadiums to true-to-life batter stances and pitcher motions. We think we have it nailed. One area we wanted to really focus on this year was the player accessories and beefing it up. We have added eye black, glasses, wrist tape, and batting gloves in the back pockets to name a few. These are some of the player accessories that add to the realistic nature of our game. When you look at your favorite player and you see an arm band or shin guard you will know that we took the time to get that in the game. Focusing on the little things this year and listening to our fans, we have tried to get the details down pat.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3377/...325d81e2_m.jpg
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Final Thoughts
You may have noticed in this blog I have mentioned realism quite a bit. Well there is a reason for this. The MLB 09 team really wanted to convey the sights and sounds of baseball to you, our fans, in the best possible fashion. So when you are playing with your favorite team or player, check out all these details mentioned here. We know you’ll love it.

We appreciate your feedback and will always listen to our fans as we try to make the best game possible. Thanks for your time and we hope you enjoy MLB 09 The Show and the realism we bring to you. OK, that is the last time I will say realism…oops. Sorry, I said it again.
holy crap look at the vines (changing) at Wrigley in that video

about the only thing missing is trotting back to the locker room for an extra injection of roids

ps. I want to use Mr. Met as my HOME avatar (he's got some wicked moves with the ladies)

NiCK Crush 02-11-09 05:08 PM

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wow.

cruzness 02-11-09 07:46 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 
Can't wait. Less than a month away.

bunkaroo 02-11-09 07:47 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 
Man this stuff looks great.

I just hope they actually added fireworks for the White Sox' park.

musick 02-11-09 08:30 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 

Originally Posted by bunkaroo (Post 9260859)
Man this stuff looks great.

I just hope they actually added fireworks for the White Sox' park.

gonna have to wait another year
from the blog.......


Will there be fireworks after homeruns at the ballparks that do that.If not,maybe next year?Thanks,can’t wait for the game.I buy it every year.


Greg Batalucco replied on February 11, 2009 at 10:00 am
Yeah…sorry about that, but fireworks at appropriate stadiums will be in next year.

bunkaroo 02-12-09 01:40 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 
Well nuts. Thanks for the info. I guess all the other improvements will keep my mind off the fireworks.

Rob V 02-13-09 10:07 AM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 
Played the demo last night and found that pitching was much more difficult to control than I remembered in 08. The "return" of the pitching meter was much quicker than I'm used to. Either that or I suck :)

As far as hitting goes, I took the first pitch from Kazmir 408' for a solo shot from Rollins --- I thought hitting was a BREEZE.... until I struck out the next 9 at bats and nearly threw the controller thru the TV in frustration. I couldn't effectively check swing or tell a ball from a strike for the life of me. I guess I suck at hitting too :)

One last want / gripe... I would like, that if you choose the correct pitch and location, that it HAS to be a strike in that zone. Too often you guess the pitch and location but it'll be a ball way inside or outside and you have no chance of connecting.

cruzness 02-13-09 03:41 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 
Pitching was really difficult but I played the demo a couple of times and you just havfe to get used to it.

musick 02-13-09 05:34 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 
I had to remember to go into options and use the pitcher view instead of the default catcher view in the demo

NiCK Crush 02-14-09 02:26 AM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 

Originally Posted by musick (Post 9265414)
I had to remember to go into options and use the pitcher view instead of the default catcher view in the demo

You really like that? The jump to defense after a ball is hit was too awkward for me to get used to.

nickdawgy 02-14-09 07:19 PM

Re: MLB '09: The Show (PS3, PS2, PSP) - March 3rd
 
I thought pitching was a bit tough as well. Hitting wasn't too bad.

The game looks great, though. EA could learn from these guys on what fans want in a sports game.


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