mugwump

I encountered that grenade hell on the final level (no spoilers). Between all the grenades and panzerschrecking going on I finally just bit the bullet and ran like a madman with my guns a blazin' and finally made through on my ninth attempt. I usually take a very careful and deliberate approach but that level would have none of that.

uteotw

I really liked it, but I can't believe I'm DONE on single player already. Went WAY too fast (on regular), so I guess I'll start over on Hardened & move up after that like I did with COD4. Still, just too short.

Zombie killing is creative, but in my opinion it doesn't even compare to the post-credits mission on COD4, which was way, way cool.

firteen88

I will disagree with you.

Jamieson22

Yeah but the plane in COD4 isn't a 4 player co-op mode.
And I'd argue that there are no two finer words in FPS gaming than "Nazi Zombies"

TheBigDave

I really liked the game, up until this point. Took me probably 90+ minutes to get past that one checkpoint on Normal. So frustrating it soured my experience on the rest of the game.

I loved the Russian/German sections. But I wasn't crazy about the Pacific sections. Lots of chokepoints turned into frustrating Banzia fragfests. Because of this, I probably won't play through the full game again. But I am going back to play the Russian missions some more.

devilshalo

It took me a few tries on Hardened. It's a timing and patience thing because I needed my stupid "teammates" to move up and they kept waiting for me to do so.

Jamieson22

Yeah it is weird but I don't even remember this part from when I played through on Normal, so I am guessing I made it without dying or maybe not much. On Veteran this section makes me want to hurt people.

matome

LOL, I notice a lot of people use quotes when referring to to teamates in this. I always jump right into Veteran on the COD solos, but are they really as annoyingly oblivious in the lower difficulties too? I literally watch an enemy run in front of and directly stop right in the face of one of your "teammates" to take aim on you and he will not kill the guy. Very annoying. Just like the grenade spamming I don't remember it being so bad in previous versions.

TheBigDave

On one of the Pacific missions, I went around the side and flanked a bunker. After the bunker was cleared, my "teammates" took the straight path and caught up with me. Then I started getting shot in the back. I turned around and noticed all three of my "teammates" had run right past the guy that was killing me.

I caught my "teammates" hanging around with the enemy a couple times throughout the game. I don't remember it happening in COD4 (but it's been a while since I played).

matome

Yep, it's blatant stuff like that that I don't remember previously. This and the grenades just seems like lazy AI work on Treyarch's side.

I have to give props to the flamethrower, though. It's pretty badass and the death animations are awesome.

devilshalo

What's really funny is playing co-op campaign with randoms and they think that like any multiplayer, they can just rush guns blazing and be ok. They don't understand that, like solo campaign, a lot of it is clearing out and moving up and letting your AI team take a lot of the fire. I had to keep telling the guys to stop rushing because I got tired of always reviving them.

Jamieson22

Yeah but there are times you need to just throw smoke and run like hell to hit the next checkpoint due to the "Meat Locker" effect of COD games. Meat Locker = The magical door that constantly streams an endless supply of enemies until you cross some invisible line.

Before I got to the checkpoint for the 3rd mortar bunker I am stuck on, I had to do this. That open area before you reach it had some elevated gunners, and some lower guys that would keep throwing grenades. I'd kill all upper guys to move forward then would take some frag damage, so I'd back up to recover. Pop up again and magically all the guys up top are there again. It's bullshit on Veteran so I just tossed smoke and ran like hell.

devilshalo

Well, for co-op, I'd lay cover for my guys advancing, but I'd let them know when I cleared an area (I usually hang back just a bit and take out the enemy with a bolt action rifle). Most times they didn't wait for me to give them the heads up and there I am having to rush into heavy fire to revive the fools and in the process I get killed and the mission fails.

Goldblum

I haven't played Zombie Killing yet, but I hope I disagree with you b/c I thought the post-credits COD4 mission was fun to play...once.

Gooter

More like 100 times if you wanted that damn achievement! LOL

kajs

I am in love with the multiplayer, I actually prefer these guns to COD4. The single player though...I've played the first 2 levels and i think its kind of glitchy, like when i got stuck between some rocks and had tried to just blow myself up, but it just respawned me in the same spot. And it seemed like a few times the whole game got slow.

dvdsteve2000

I haven't had a PC in a couple weeks so I'm behind on alot of discussions...

I love the game, but the friendly AI is horrible. I'm playing through on veteran so it really sucks when your guys just run past the enemies. I just completed the 3-bunker level, which was a huge bitch. As mentioned above, I also don't like the South Pacific missions as much as the Germany/Russian ones.

devilshalo

I just know that German sniper can kiss my ass, being able to target, fire and kill me before even peeking out the window.

dvdsteve2000

I cruised through that on medium, but that single part took me over an hour trying to kill that bastard on veteran. Amsel's sniper is almost just as bad but at least you know where he's gonna be every time.

Jamieson22

That part almost earned a controller through the TV as well. I managed to hide in the window on the left in a way that I could only see the window to the right, and he could only shoot me from the window on the right. That still doesn't make it easy.

And how the heck can they have hit detection that would tell you 2 shots from a sniper rifle "only grazed him"? WTF? I am 1 mile away shooting at something the size of an M&M and they are strict on headshots only?

Don't forget to grab the pistol on the table in that room if you want the Gunslinger achievement. Don't think you see any others in that level.

Jamie

matome

I got lucky on that Veteran sniper mission and took me about 20 minutes. Last night it literally took me 3.5 hours to destroy those four 88's in the plaza at Reichstad with probably half of that waiting to play through the fucking unskippable "for us and Mother Russia........CHARGE!" intro that is at the beginning of the checkpoint. What is Treyarch's problem with having us skip these cutscenes? If I recall correctly you couldn't skip it in their COD3 either.

matome

Yep, you pretty much have to make believe you're going solo in this game. They literally run right past enemies out in the open that are taking aim on you.

JHBulls

I know that this game came out a few weeks ago but does anyone know if there'll be a part 6?

Goldblum

If you're asking whether one of the best selling games for all consoles will have an inevitable sequel, the answer is almost certainly not.

devilshalo

Gotta love the new party system on the NXE. Party chat while you play search and destroy so your dead teammates can still talk to you.