I don't even own a 360 and its my favorite controller. I have one and use it for my PC games.

While the 360 controller is great for FPS, I find the d-pad severely lacking when it comes to fighting games. I would have thought Microsoft would have done something about that by now.

Ben Heckendorn is a real American hero.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/01/h...60-controller/

Wonder what would happen if they released it in stores?

Very fair complaint. When it comes to digital pads the Classic Controller on the Wii is my current favorite with the Saturn pad my all time fav.

Do people still use the D-pad for gaming? I'm not big into fighting games but I think I'd still prefer the analog stick.

Fighting games, skate or other "extreme" games, arcade games. Anything where you need really accurate 90 or 45 degree movements is better served with an accurate D-pad, which the 360 definately lacks.

Hmm.. I guess it was a good thing I was out of town this weekend.

I turned on the PS3 last night and when I signed in, it prompted me for a system update. It was not 2.4, however. I think it was 2.36 or something like that.

I have the 60 gig model because I wanted the BC with PS2 games.

Ben Heckerdon is the man. I would buy one of those in a heartbeat. The controller debate is a tired one and all about personal preference, but slop hit the nail on the head in every way. However I did find this quite funny:

Nice catch. :)

As for the update, I decided to wait it out. Apparently a wise choice since I'm in the 60GB camp. I don't game much on the PS3 lately so it wasn't a huge deal anyway.

I just hope somebody makes a 360-esque controller for the PS3 at some point, that would make me happy.

I also just got the 2.36 revision, heh, guess that's what I get for not turning the sucker on (outside of blurays and uhm.. "burnt media") for gaming.

I have a 60g, and I DL'd 2.40. So far, no problems. I've been playing GH:A though. I haven't watched a movie since the update.

60gb here too, and as I reported before: no problems.

Apparently, once it's installed, you're in the clear. The problems are coming from the installation.

60g, no problems. Whew.

Mine's fine as well. What's Sony's policy on ps3s that get bricked during updates?

They apparently don't take any responsibility for it: if it's within your warranty, they'll fix it. If not, you have to pay for it. ---> :rolleyes:

I have a 60GB and no problems here either with the update.

Sony Customer Support has always made me taste the sadness. From Betamax to PS3, there's no stopping it.

Really??? WOW! The only issue I ever had with my launch PS2 was a disc read error after like four years and they fixed it for free.

Weren't there class action lawsuits brought against them that had to due with faulty mechanisms causing disc read errors? If so, that could explain why they helped you out after so long. Remember, there's no such thing as a benevolent corporation. :)

The 360 controller is great for what it is really designed for I think: FPS games and other action titles.

The d-pad sucks hard, which is annoying for games with lots of menus (Easier to flip through menus with a d-pad) and of course classic games, fighting games,etc.

It sucks so hard I've been using the analog stick for SF2HDbeta.

Very good except for the d-pad though.

If only I could get a Sega Saturn -> 360 adapter :D

The PS3 pad sucks like the PS1/PS2 controller did:
-The recessed-in-the-middle d-pad sucks the most (too stiff, and awful for Street Fighter and the like...tolerable for Tekken).
-The button labeling is tedious to type/say (Triangle-square-circle anyone?).
-I'm always bumping the right trigger on my knee when I play Tekken (since I put my fingers on it kind of like a joystick to hit button combos fast enough) because they are kinda hanging out from the controller..

-The analog sticks are an afterthought on the controller from the Dualshock1 era and it shows - they are awfully positioned...also convex, and too floppy (not enough spring-back). Although the PS3 controller is a tiny bit better in this respect with less slippery sticks.

Wow, that's pretty shitty. I think I'll be passing on any future updates until they've proven safe.

There is a Saturn controller with USB, but it's only for PC/Mac games and you have to import it.

I said to hell with it and downloaded the update from Neogaf. It seemed like no one that did the update through USB had issues. The update went fine, but Sony pulled the 4.0 update for Super Stardust HD so it was kind of pointless. No trophy chasing for me.

I bought this yesterday (to flip on CL), and they asked me if I wanted to keep the neon tags and stuff.....I laughed. :D

I ran an ethernet cable at my last place, but now my modem and wireless router are in a different room. Does the 40GB PS3 have a wireless card, or do I need to buy an adapter?

Built in wireless.

That's what I figured, I'm an idiot. :D

I used to like you... :(

uh oh .. I got my monoprice package yesterday, and while the HDMI>DVI cable is just fine - I found that neither my TV nor my home theater receiver has a digital audio input .. so, should I use the regular audio output (that is currently in my TV) and run it into the home theater to at least get slightly better sound?

What receiver is it? It's probably quite old or a specialized model if it doesn't have an optical input. If it has coaxial digital, you could get a converter.

I would run the audio cables from the PS3 to the receiver. If you need sound from the TV speakers sometimes, see if the receiver has audio outputs.

Yeah, make SURE that it doesn't have an optical input. If it's less than 10 years old, I bet it does. A lot of time there's a small I-shaped plug in the Optical In plug that should be removed before you insert your cable. I'd check your receiver's manual...

In my defense, I really thought of keeping it and selling my 40gb (still have the box, etc), but the $ difference makes too much sense to sell the 80gb, as I am barely a part-time gamer.

Firmware 2.41 is expected midweek (next day or two).

I just hope the 2.41 firmware installation doesn't cause problems for those of us successfully running 2.40 for a week. :lol:

If I have learned one lesson it is to download the firmware online and install it by USB. All the issues seemed to happen with Wi-fi updates.

It is a Panasonic SA-RT50

So is 2.40 available on the website? Also, what does 2.40 address?

2.41 is now up.

Also, for RocShemp

The new update basically adds In-game XMB (so you can quickly switch to another game, check something on the internet, message a friend, all without having to first quit out of your game.) And it also adds Trophy support (like 360 achievements.)

It's up in the air as to which is the biggest or most desired of the updates. My thought is the ingame xmb.

2.41 install went fine. At the beginning of the install, there's a "turn off system automatically after update" option that I don't remember seeing before.

I saw that message as well. It is definately new. 2.41 is working fine for me.