Video Game Talk The Place to talk about and trade Video & PC Games

VGA's [Lets Discuss]

Old 12-10-07, 08:55 AM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 383
VGA's [Lets Discuss]



So I was watching the VGA's (video game awards) last night, and wow. I must say this is the first time I have actually bothered to watch them, and what a disappointment. It has the making of an awards show that COULD be respectable, but it is just, at the moment, stuck way to deep in the juvenile department. In the first five minutes of the section of show I started watching at there were no fewer than five (5) farts jokes. That is one fart joke a minute five times consecutively. This is just another reason why Spike TV sucks.

The show tried way to hard to be "cool" and ended up just being "B-Movie Cheesy".

Not only that, but the winners didn't quite make sense to me.

* GAME OF THE YEAR: BioShock
* STUDIO OF THE YEAR: Harmonix
* BEST SHOOTER: Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Activision/ Infinity Ward)
* BEST RPG: Mass Effect (Microsoft Game Studios/ BioWare)
* BEST MILITARY GAME: Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Activision/ Infinity Ward)
* BEST INDIVIDUAL SPORTS GAME: skate (Electronic Arts/ EA Black Box)
* BEST HANDHELD GAME: The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (Nintendo/ Nintendo)
* BEST GRAPHICS: Crysis (Electronic Arts/ Crytek)
* BEST GAME BASED ON A MOVIE OR TV SHOW: The Simpsons Game (Electronic Arts/ EA Redwood Shores)
* BEST RHYTHM GAME: Rock Band (MTV Games/ Harmonix)
* BEST DRIVING GAME: DiRT (Codemasters/ Codemasters)
* BEST ACTION GAME: Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo/ Nintendo)
* BEST TEAM SPORTS GAME: Madden NFL 08 (Electronic Arts/ EA Tiburon)
* BEST SOUNDTRACK: Rock Band (MTV Games/ Harmonix)
* BREAKTHROUGH TECHNOLOGY: The Orange Box/ Portal (Valve/ Valve)
* BEST XBOX 360 GAME: BioShock
* BEST WII GAME: Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo/ Nintendo)
* BEST PS3 GAME: Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction (Sony Computer Entertainment/ Insomniac Games)
* BEST PC GAME: The Orange Box (Valve/ Valve)
* BEST ORIGINAL SCORE: BioShock
* BEST MULTI-PLAYER GAME: Halo 3 (Microsoft Game Studios/ Bungie Studios)
* MOST ADDICTIVE VIDEO GAME FUELED BY DEW: Halo 3 (Microsoft Game Studios/ Bungie Studios)

Now for the most part I guess the winners make sense, but there are three categories that confuse me the most. Most Addictive Video Game Fueled by Dew, Game of the Year, and Best Xbox360 game. First off, yes I understand Dew had all kinds of licensing and publicity agreements with Halo but did Halo 3 really deserve to win? Also, the other two category winners don't make sense to me. The most monumental selling, most insane grossing video game/form of entertainment EVER in the history of the world wasn't popular enough to win both game of the year and best xbox360 game? Hello? I'm not a Halo fanboy by any means, but it just seems odd that this game didn't win. I thought it was a shoe in.
metalhead212 is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 09:22 AM
  #2  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 4,790
I like the fact that the Studio of the Year didn't create the Game of the Year.
lotsofdvds is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 09:23 AM
  #3  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Osaka, Japan
Posts: 2,493
The Mountain Dew thing was actually just a public online vote, so Halo 3 winning is not surprising. It's not something to be particularly stressed about, I mean, the actual category name pretty much demands ridicule.

As for the other two categories, well actually all the awards (apart from the Mountain Dew thing) this year were voted on by a panel of 30 experts from the game journalism industry (including 1UP, Gamespot, etc.). So it's not strange to see an industry darling like Bioshock win - and not that I'm even saying that is not a perfectly deserving winner.

The main controversy from what I've heard is Mario Galaxy wasn't nominated for GOTY (but there were only 4 nominees so I'm sure it was just outside that group). I would imagine many people think that Halo 3 should have been squeezed out to make room for MG. The other 3 GOTY nominees, Mass Effect, Bioshock, and Orange Box were all pretty worthy IMO.
Chris_D is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 09:40 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 383
They were all worthy games every game that won was AAA, that is also a problem I think, but that is neither here nor there. I just hate how they have all these supposed "experts" throw their two cents in, when in reality it should really either be based off the consumers or the sales and revenue numbers, or by online activity or something. 30 people should not speak for millions.
metalhead212 is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 09:50 AM
  #5  
DVD Talk Godfather
 
Michael Corvin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 57,710
I don't get how Orange Box qualifies for GOTY anyway. How old is the content in the package? I can understand that it is a great value, but a reissue shouldn't qualify, no matter what extras you put in the box.
Michael Corvin is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 09:56 AM
  #6  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 23,226
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
I don't get how Orange Box qualifies for GOTY anyway. How old is the content in the package? I can understand that it is a great value, but a reissue shouldn't qualify, no matter what extras you put in the box.
I agree, it's an extremely over-hyped package based on its perceived "value," however, Episode 2, Team Fortress 2 and Portal were all new. Half-Life 2 and Episode 1 were the only "oldies" on there and I believe merely as a bonus. The primary package is still all new content.
PixyJunket is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 10:05 AM
  #7  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Decker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Vegas, Baby!
Posts: 44,064
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
I don't get how Orange Box qualifies for GOTY anyway. How old is the content in the package? I can understand that it is a great value, but a reissue shouldn't qualify, no matter what extras you put in the box.
Actually, I have no problem with it being a GOTY nominee, it is a game released this year andis supurb. How on earth does it win "Breakthrough Technology" though? I don't know what the other nominees were, but that seems like an award that CoD 4 or Rock Band would be more deserving of.
Decker is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 10:16 AM
  #8  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Puyallup
Posts: 16,435
Hah. SMG wasn't even considered for GOTY? Now that makes alot of sense, since it is the highest rated game of the year, and top 2 of all-time.
superdeluxe is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 10:46 AM
  #9  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 23,226
Originally Posted by superdeluxe
Hah. SMG wasn't even considered for GOTY? Now that makes alot of sense, since it is the highest rated game of the year, and top 2 of all-time.
The Spike TV Video Game Awards are targeted at their advertisers first and the target demographic of their network, pre-teen and early-teen boys, second. Super Mario Galaxy is the type of game that's much more appreciated below and above that age range.
PixyJunket is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 11:29 AM
  #10  
DVD Talk Godfather
 
fumanstan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 55,343
No problems with Orange Box being listed either. The original content is all top notch, with or without Half-Life 2/Episode 1. The breakthrough technology thing is iffy, but considering they listed Portal specifically, it makes more sense.

No problem with Bioshock either. It deserves it.

The list doesn't seem that bad to me
fumanstan is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 12:17 PM
  #11  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Marina Del Rey, California
Posts: 9,857
I don't really take stock in the awards. But Kristen Bell in that dress was phenomenal.
starseed1981 is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 02:22 PM
  #12  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 2,518
After beating Bioshock this weekend, I truly feel this is the game of the year. Just an incredible story and technologically sound as well.
DVDChris is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 03:44 PM
  #13  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 39,020
I agree with most of the awards. I really love Rock Band, BioShock, Orange Box, and Super Mario Galaxy and feel they all got some love.

I will say BioShock makes me chuckle in terms of advertising. I've seen numerous ads for it lately, and it had an obviously paid spot in 30 Rock a couple weeks ago (Tina Fey gives a copy of it to her then 20 year old boyfriend. It wasn't quite as over the top as the Verizon ad ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d36wUmJGzvA ) but it was pretty obvious) Seems like its publisher is pulling out the $$ for advertising it this xmas... But unlike most, I feel it deserves the push, great game.
RichC2 is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 03:46 PM
  #14  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 23,226
On that subject, the TV ad for Mass Effect is horrible.
PixyJunket is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 03:50 PM
  #15  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,861
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
I don't get how Orange Box qualifies for GOTY anyway. How old is the content in the package? I can understand that it is a great value, but a reissue shouldn't qualify, no matter what extras you put in the box.
I'll disagree since Portal alone is my GOTY, making everything else included in the package just the icing on the cake.
msdmoney is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 04:38 PM
  #16  
DRG
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: ND
Posts: 13,417
I haven't played everything on that list, but all in all it seems like a decent list. I liked Halo 3, but I'm glad it didn't automatically win GotY just because of its popularity. It at least gives this a bit of credibility. I haven't seen the actual show... these sorts of things are almost always too cheesy to watch.
DRG is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 06:17 PM
  #17  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Osaka, Japan
Posts: 2,493
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
I don't get how Orange Box qualifies for GOTY anyway. How old is the content in the package? I can understand that it is a great value, but a reissue shouldn't qualify, no matter what extras you put in the box.
I would disagree. I can't say I've played it, but the word is that TF2 by itself is simply the best online multiplayer FPS going around at the moment. Likewise Portal has been receiving massive plaudits from most outlets.
Chris_D is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 07:03 PM
  #18  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 27,675
So did Orange Box win the "breakthrough technology" solely because of Portal?

And where are all the PS3 and PSP games? Talk about biased...
fujishig is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 10:38 PM
  #19  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Osaka, Japan
Posts: 2,493
Huh? There are quite a lot of PS3 winners actually:
* BEST SHOOTER: Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Activision/ Infinity Ward)
* BEST MILITARY GAME: Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Activision/ Infinity Ward)
* BEST INDIVIDUAL SPORTS GAME: skate (Electronic Arts/ EA Black Box)
* BEST GAME BASED ON A MOVIE OR TV SHOW: The Simpsons Game (Electronic Arts/ EA Redwood Shores)
* BEST RHYTHM GAME: Rock Band (MTV Games/ Harmonix)
* BEST DRIVING GAME: DiRT (Codemasters/ Codemasters)
* BEST TEAM SPORTS GAME: Madden NFL 08 (Electronic Arts/ EA Tiburon)
* BEST SOUNDTRACK: Rock Band (MTV Games/ Harmonix)
* BREAKTHROUGH TECHNOLOGY: The Orange Box/ Portal (Valve/ Valve)
* BEST PS3 GAME: Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction (Sony Computer Entertainment/ Insomniac Games)
Chris_D is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 10:53 PM
  #20  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
dvdsteve2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Home of the 2009 Stanley Cup & Vince Lombardi trophy!!!
Posts: 6,117
How does Mario Galaxy, and maybe even Rock Band qualify when they were basically just released? It just seems like the games haven't been around long enough to be nominated.
dvdsteve2000 is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 10:59 PM
  #21  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Osaka, Japan
Posts: 2,493
They've been reviewed, and the nominations and winners were decided on by a panel of 30 game journalists.
Chris_D is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 11:01 PM
  #22  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,077
Frank Kozik made the trophy.

E
DeltaSigChi4 is offline  
Old 12-11-07, 09:30 AM
  #23  
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
dan30oly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,749
Originally Posted by Chris_D
Huh? There are quite a lot of PS3 winners actually:
* BEST SHOOTER: Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Activision/ Infinity Ward)
* BEST MILITARY GAME: Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Activision/ Infinity Ward)
* BEST INDIVIDUAL SPORTS GAME: skate (Electronic Arts/ EA Black Box)
* BEST GAME BASED ON A MOVIE OR TV SHOW: The Simpsons Game (Electronic Arts/ EA Redwood Shores)
* BEST RHYTHM GAME: Rock Band (MTV Games/ Harmonix)
* BEST DRIVING GAME: DiRT (Codemasters/ Codemasters)
* BEST TEAM SPORTS GAME: Madden NFL 08 (Electronic Arts/ EA Tiburon)
* BEST SOUNDTRACK: Rock Band (MTV Games/ Harmonix)
* BREAKTHROUGH TECHNOLOGY: The Orange Box/ Portal (Valve/ Valve)
* BEST PS3 GAME: Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction (Sony Computer Entertainment/ Insomniac Games)
Nice spin.

Only 2 of those games are exclusive to the PS3 and one of those happens to be in the "BEST PS3 GAME" category (the other being DiRT).
dan30oly is offline  
Old 12-11-07, 09:34 AM
  #24  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 39,020
DiRT isn't exclusive.

Last edited by RichC2; 12-11-07 at 09:36 AM.
RichC2 is offline  
Old 12-11-07, 10:53 AM
  #25  
Challenge Guru & Comic Nerd
 
Trevor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: spiritually, Minnesota
Posts: 34,722
Originally Posted by starseed1981
I don't really take stock in the awards. But Kristen Bell in that dress was phenomenal.
Shame on you for not linking a pic.

Trevor is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.