PopcornTreeCt

I use Siegfried all the time but I rarely play against someone who uses him. Kilik seems to be the all-time "cheap" character in this game. You can win online with fast characters especially against Siegfried. Just keep at it. I like playing Hilde and Tira's style. Tira is a lot of fun.

Adam Tyner

Ha! I forgot about this post of yours, but that's exactly how I beat him with Vader last night. The second match, I even got a 'perfect!' against him. He blocks relentlessly and never breaks out of throws, so he's a breeze as long as you don't do anything but throw.

GreenMonkey

I haven't been playing random people, but friends and friends-of-friends.

I use mostly Taki and Siegfried as I sorta know them from SC1. Taki is really my primary.

Taki works good but I had some trouble with the timing on her juggles...I tend to miss probably due to the lag. That's the biggest adjustment IMO along with being careful when you sidestep.

There's some good moves to deal with the long range characters. The wind roll to flying uppercut very useful (->B+K BBB or ->B+K BKB) ...also the -> -> K move that does what looks like a Chun Li hurricane kick is VERY useful for hitting them and to gets you into close range quickly.

dvdsteve2000

Unfortunately this game is bringing out the completist in me, I can't stop playing it. I absolutely SUCK online but I'm not giving up yet. I usually win 1 or 2 rounds, but end up losing the match. My record is a horrid 13 & 65 or something, lol.

cruzness

Is there any talk of trophies for the PS3 version of this?

lordzeppelin

At this point, I'm convinced that it's a lag issue. Taki, amongst a couple of others, are quite timing sensitive, and I haven't quite figured out the timing lag with the online battles. For example, a friend was using angol fear last night, and just button mashing and using the same BBB attack over and over and over. Now, in a local game, that's easy to sidestep, roll and counter in any number of ways. I was able to do it if I'm anywhere but against a wall, ledge, or corner. However, blocking an attack like that and trying to counter is just...frustrating. Theoretically, I should be able to block the final blow, and as the final blow is letting up, release the block and start my counter - but the lag won't allow for it in the least. I tried starting a split second earlier, but that just leads to getting hammered by the final strike in that string.

In the end, I really have to adjust my playing style for XBL on this game, and I'm struggling to do so. I'll have to just play some social games and figure out my strategy. It's still amazingly frustrating to just get hammered by simple button mashing, which never seemed to have as much impact previous SC games.

dvdsteve2000

That's my problem with my horrible online record. I can't tell you how many times I lost to some asshole that never hit more than one button repeatedly. You simply can't move, and that's frustrating as Hell. Here I am trying to have fun by trying to use skill at the game, only to be owned by (single) button mashing. I'd rather lose every game by getting outplayed than win half of them against button-mashers.

lordzeppelin

Agreed. And in all honesty, I'm going for the online achievements and won't touch it online again after that.

I hope the online portion will be tweaked in an update. That said...I wonder if the SFIV crew is taking note of how this is running. I never got to play DoA4 online much, but was it like this with the lag too? this is really the first fighting game I'm playing VS online, so maybe I'm acting like a n00b about it. I dunno.

Pasco

I'm kind of fearful for SFIV after experiencing the online lag of SCIV. However, I have played a few online matches of DOA4 and VF5, and none were this bad. In fact, they were quite playable (coming from a non-frame counting fighting fan). The worst one has been SFIIHF, and I think SCIV has more lag. Even the SFHD beta is more playable than SCIV. When I encounter lag on SCIV, it's basically whomever gets in the first shot wins. Who wants to play online if all you're going to do is hit some buttons or just use one or two moves? Is there lag in the PS3 version?

lordzeppelin

I haven't tried VF5...but DoA4 was just a button slamming combo-fest anyways, with counters that I've never been too methodical with from the start. I suck with the counters in that game, so I wouldn't have noticed if it was off on timing

GreenMonkey

Well, Street Fighter 2 doesn't have counters, guard impacts, and the like. Sometimes pulling off a parry in SF3 online (SF anniversary collection disc) was pretty tough.

I had a guy on SF3 leg-sweep tripping me over and over again. Due to lag I couldn't stand up and block quickly enough to stop it, I'd get tripped about 5 times before finally getting my block. VERY frustrating. Fighting games are always going to be a bit problematic for online.

I was playing a buddy's girlfriend on SC4 this weekend who kept spamming the same high-low attack with Ivy and beating us. I could only block the low attack maybe 60% of the time and I couldn't get a counter attack in afterwards. She mixed in just a few high attacks when we would start ducking. The solution for me was a backwards Guard Impact. Even with some minor lag, you should be able to Guard Impact them if they are spamming the same move over and over again or button mashing. Even then, I was still losing half the time.

PopcornTreeCt

I beat that guy pretty easy.

I've learned to use the lag to my advantage. I can usually start a hold move while the enemy is still on the ground before they get up.

lordzeppelin

get a mic, then you can talk trash...I seem to remember taking you out on the next round tho...

dvdsteve2000

The problem with that is...if they hit you first, you may never have them on the ground.

innocentfreak

I am thinking of picking this up this week and just wanted to see if anyone regrets their purchase. I have a couple of gift cards which is one of the reasons I am considering it and the beta I am in is on break currently.

lordzeppelin

If you like Soul Calibur, get it. I'm having a blast with it. I don't think it's as good as II, but it's better than III, IMO.

PopcornTreeCt

I don't regret it. Well, I'm renting it and don't want to give it back. I'm going for the Acquire every weapon and piece of equipment Achievement. Which will probably take me another week or so.

If anyone wants to do the Smash Opponent's Equipment/Win with All Equipment Smashed Achievements...let me know....Gamertag is luke1014. I can't seem to accomplish this against the AI.

Dr Mabuse

I'm on level 32 of the tower. I'm enjoying the game.

Nightmare, if you set him up right, is really a bad ass. I can beat the characters with three strikes by him. 6-7 strikes even if they start with 200 HP.

dvdsteve2000

Get the Soul Edge sword for Yoen-sung (sp?)...I killed Seigfreid with one hit in the tower, somewhere around level 25 or so. The sword has a +200 to your attack.

PopcornTreeCt

Get the HP Drain A...Venom Fang A helps too.

RocShemp

dvdsteve2000

Is it just me, or does Yoda look alot like Gary Coleman?

Dragon Fly

I'm a little late to the party (my copy of the game shipped scratched beyond playability) but I just got it and I'm ready for some matches! Gamertag: Paradoxx21

edstein

Is anyone using the Hori stick? I'm tempted to get the SCIV edition from amazon. Seemed to be the cheapest one I could find.

GreenMonkey

I'm using it.

The feel of it is a bit different - having just readied my Street Fighter Anniversary stick for selling on ebay/Amazon marketplace I noticed how much more I liked it over the Hori - but it works pretty well. I did a lot better on SF2HD beta with it, and it works great for SC4.

Good stick overall.