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I applaud this guy for trying to clean up his store. He is in no way keeping kids with bad grades from getting a game. They can still go to Wal-Mart, Best Buy etc. if they want to.
[Jeff Spicoli]No Shirt, No Shoes, Bad Grades, No Dice.[/Jeff Spicoli] Learn It, Know It, Live It |
Originally Posted by rennervision
If this is that manager's policy, I couldn't care less. I just appreciate the irony of him only catering to smart kids when he strikes me as a guy who doesn't know how to profitably manage a business.
Originally Posted by dan30oly
Cute.
I am ever so sorry that I was not politically correct enough for you. Is that facetious enough for you? |
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Where does it say in the article he isn't profitable? Maybe he makes up for GS's guerilla tactics by drawing in customers that usually wouldn't shop there to save their life. Maybe he is financially sound and is doing this for the hell of it on his own dime. :shrug: There are quite a bit of assumptions flying in this discussion.
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For me, it's really only the free game bit that riles me a little. I mean, my school, and I guess most schools at least had a range of awards given for student achievement, academic, but also stuff like sports, arts, and community contributions. So, if he was also giving out free games to kids who are contributing to the community in some way I would feel much more comfortable about the whole thing.
Anyway, I just came off a week of testing all my classes, and while most of them did great, not all of them were able to get top marks of course. So it's a little bit sensitive for me right now :p. Other than that, I do totally agree that any increase in parent involvement in game purchasing is a good thing. |
Wow 4 pages for this. I'm sure this guy has abandoned this policy by now. This was nothing but a publicity stunt.
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Insulting the handicapped is the lowest of the low. So I find it odd that you are chastising a guy that is doing something somewhat positive for his community while insulting a segment of our society. Classy.
It certainly wasn't meant as such, and I think you know it. |
This thread proves why society is the way it is nowadays. One person TRIES to do something positive, and someone always sees the negative in it. I agree it may not be perfect, what with him giving away games to straight A students only, but he's trying.
We'd all be better off if we could put other people ahead of the almighty dollar every now and then. |
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http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dw....d3cb9c35.html Spoilerized to save space. Spoiler:
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Originally Posted by www.wfaa.com
Online blog and web comments have been largely negative but the community support has been overwhelmingly positive.
Anyway, his misguided efforts won't be missed by me. |
That didn't take long. This could generate some bad press for Gamestop. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. I wonder if this will bring Thompson out of the woodwork in support of this guy. Doubtful since he feeds on negative gaming stereotypes but who knows.
Originally Posted by SteelgearX
This thread proves why society is the way it is nowadays. One person TRIES to do something positive, and someone always sees the negative in it. I agree it may not be perfect, what with him giving away games to straight A students only, but he's trying.
We'd all be better off if we could put other people ahead of the almighty dollar every now and then. |
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
That didn't take long. This could generate some bad press for Gamestop. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. I wonder if this will bring Thompson out of the woodwork in support of this guy. Doubtful since he feeds on negative gaming stereotypes but who knows.
It's his absolute refusal to sell games to students unless they have good grades that is the outrage. If I were GameStop, I would be more worried about that bad press generated from his refusal to offer customer service when there are 50 other retailers and the internet consumers can chose to purchase from. |
If you're getting D's and F's in school you're just not trying, regardless of you IQ. That's especially true for elementary and middle school.
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Originally Posted by SteelgearX
If you're getting D's and F's in school you're just not trying, regardless of you IQ. That's especially true for elementary and middle school.
I know what you're saying, but it isn't that cut and dry. The educational system, especially in poorer neighborhoods, is an absolute joke. That isn't to say that some kids don't find a way to excel, but it can be more than just "not trying". |
Originally Posted by dan30oly
If you want to take it as a insult, so be it.
It certainly wasn't meant as such, and I think you know it. Not crying about it, not a PC police, just saying. It grates. |
Originally Posted by boredsilly
That's not exactly true. Some kids have learning disabilities, situations at home that aren't conducive to learning, or have been pushed through the system so far just to keep a schools stats up, when they aren't really prepared for the work in the next grade.
I know what you're saying, but it isn't that cut and dry. The educational system, especially in poorer neighborhoods, is an absolute joke. That isn't to say that some kids don't find a way to excel, but it can be more than just "not trying". |
Originally Posted by dan30oly
Again, nobody cares if he wants to give away games to straight "A" students.
It's his absolute refusal to sell games to students unless they have good grades that is the outrage. \ Learning disabilities aside, if you are getting Ds and Fs, gaming shouldn't be a priority anyway. Also, since the parents are required to come in, I'm sure if it is a matter of learning disability, it just takes a little conversation with the guy to let him know. |
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Did you miss the part that says most of the kids return with better grades? So it isn't a matter of learning disabilites or even a "fuck this guy" these kids apparently value this manager's parental guidance enough to do better to return almost like a coach. Most are willing to work harder to earn that game. Didn't one of the articles say that improvement plays a big part on his "scale" as well?
Learning disabilities aside, if you are getting Ds and Fs, gaming shouldn't be a priority anyway. Also, since the parents are required to come in, I'm sure if it is a matter of learning disability, it just takes a little conversation with the guy to let him know. It's discrimination based on grades, and it's not this guys job to prioritize anyones life other than his own (and his families). The personal life of his customers are none of his business. If I ever went to a store and was asked a bunch of questions in order to qualify to make a retail purchase, I would walk out and buy from a retailer who wasn't so judgmental. |
It's your right to walk out, just like it's his right to not sell to kids who don't have high enough grades. Gamestop is a private business and as long as the corporate office doesn't tell him to stop, he has every right to conduct his business this way. You may not like it, but you can shop somewhere else.
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Originally Posted by dan30oly
I don't care if 100% of the kids come back with "better" grades.
It's discrimination based on grades, and it's not this guys job to prioritize anyones life other than his own (and his families). The personal life of his customers are none of his business. If I ever went to a store and was asked a bunch of questions in order to qualify to make a retail purchase, I would walk out and buy from a retailer who wasn't so judgmental. This kind of viewpoint is getting awfully annoying. As the previous poster said, GameStop is a private business. If you owned your own company, would you like the government to tell you that you can't make selling decisions on your own? (Well, they already do, Title VII of Civil Rights Act of 1964, and others.) |
Originally Posted by dan30oly
I don't care if 100% of the kids come back with "better" grades.
It's discrimination based on grades, and it's not this guys job to prioritize anyones life other than his own (and his families). The personal life of his customers are none of his business. If I ever went to a store and was asked a bunch of questions in order to qualify to make a retail purchase, I would walk out and buy from a retailer who wasn't so judgmental. |
Originally Posted by awil1026
This kind of viewpoint is getting awfully annoying. As the previous poster said, GameStop is a private business. If you owned your own company, would you like the government to tell you that you can't make selling decisions on your own? (Well, they already do, Title VII of Civil Rights Act of 1964, and others.)
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Did you miss the part that says most of the kids return with better grades?
The personal element is something that is really lacking these days and could potentially be a huge draw. If I walk anonymously into a store, buy a game (preferably one that isn't sold as new, despite being out of its package, stored in a drawer separate from the case ;)) and then the next week or month get a comment of "Hey, what did you think of _____?" I'm very likely to want to continue in that store, and perhaps even try out games I normally wouldn't, just based on employee recommendations. That extra effort can bring in great results, based on my limited experience. Taking an interest in the kids' grades and not wanting to sell games to kids who are already struggling in school is in theory a great idea. I'm under the assumption that he just talks and tries to add some motivation rather than strictly enforcing that the kids get a B- in Geography or be escorted out by mall security (they'd need an escort since their poor geography skills might make it tough for them to find the exit on their own). Having it in rule form probably makes the whole think seem like a much bigger deal than it is/was in practice. The biggest problem is probably that you can count the amount of customers who were directly turned away at the register, but you can't really count the customers who became more interested/loyal thanks to this policy, or, for that matter, quantify the effect it had on young shoppers' school work. |
This seems to be a pretty heated argument over a guy who works at Gamestop...
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Originally Posted by Anubis2005X
This seems to be a pretty heated argument over a guy who works at Gamestop...
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Originally Posted by Anubis2005X
This seems to be a pretty heated argument over a guy who works at Gamestop...
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