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Huh?? I thought the point was something to the effect of why play a simulation of something you can do in real life? My answer was a simple one......it's far easier to play a simulation than to do the real life equivalent. People play Madden games because they want to play as their favorite team with the real players, how the fuck does flag football come anywhere close to that?
I'm not threatened by life outside of video games dude, but I suppose with days to sit and think about my post anyone can nitpick it to death with all the blah blah me and my neighbors get together for mixed martial arts night in the cul-de-sac every Tuesday and Saturday. But for most it's going to be easier to throw in a video game.;) |
he obviously didn't get your point...
why the hell you would recommend real life activities to a "gamer" is beyond me :lol: |
Originally Posted by kakihara1
Huh?? I thought the point was something to the effect of why play a simulation of something you can do in real life?
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Yeah guys I'm sorry. This discussion went miles away from the original point. And I'm partially to blame for that. This is a 1+1 doesn't necessarily equal two type discussion.
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Originally Posted by Groucho
More specifically, that question was directed only at the Wii...as if it didn't apply to other gaming platforms. That's what baffles me about the whole thing.
I can see it to an extent. For instance, I don't see the point of asking my girlfriend over to play a game of Wii Tennis vs. just getting together to play the real thing since we can play at the tennis center she has a membership at or the courts on campus here for no cost. But I think it's over doing it to say the games are pointless and one should just play the real thing. They are still fun to pick up and play every now and then when you have people over, and probably more so for people who can't play the real sport so easily. |
It's nice to see that Chris Hecker apologized for his idiotic remarks.
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Originally Posted by CreatureX
It's nice to see that Chris Hecker apologized for his idiotic remarks.
I think we can all agree that it is and that this may bring issues in future, but from what I can tell it won't hurt the group the Wii is aim at. |
Originally Posted by Apollo
I think we can all agree that it is and that this may bring issues in future..
I remember back in the day when arcade machines were infinitely more powerful than home systems; instead of whining like little fucking children with scrapped knees about systems not being powerful enough.. developers went to task to make the best possible version of their games with what the home systems could offer. What a concept, eh? |
No surprise the apology came, the bottom line is Nintendo already has 60% the market share the 360 has. If things continue this way EA is going to be even more dependent on the Wii.
http://www.vgcharts.org/?p=60 |
I get what he was saying about certain CPU intensive calculations being more constrained on the wii, like AI, but these games don't necessarily belong on the Wii anyway, so it's no big deal. I don't think the lack of HD graphics was really what he was trying to get at.
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Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
I can see it to an extent. For instance, I don't see the point of asking my girlfriend over to play a game of Wii Tennis vs. just getting together to bang like rabbid monkeys.
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Originally Posted by mmconhea
Yup pretty pathetic I'm not outside playing tennis in -10 degree weather on my backyard tennis court. I guess I'll turn off wiisports and get right out there. thanks for the tip. I must have looksed like such a looser with my friends in front of a cazy fire and 56 inch screen having a blast.
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Well, I also think that games can be art, but I don't see what would prevent developers from being able to make an artistic game on the Wii. Hell, there are some NES games that I would still argue were very artfully done. And what this guy needs to remember, when it's all said and done, it doesn't matter how great the graphics are or how interesting the story is, if it's not fun to play, then the game must be considered a failure. Hell, that's why they're called games, they're meant to fun and escapist!
And as for the comments about looking stupid while playing Wii games. I completely agree with this, and I think that's part of the charm of the system. Get up and be a little silly sometimes, nothing wrong with that. It's even better when there are some good friends around to look silly with you. The very first time I ever played multiplayer on the Wii, my friends and I were laughing so hard we could hardly play. It was just a lot of fun. What's wrong with tapping into the kid in you to have a little bit of fun? I also don't see how people wouldn't get something out of playing single-player games on Wii Sports. There was a comment about how there's not much depth to it. Well, it's just a collection of sports games; how deep is it supposed to get? Madden might look like an incredible simulation of football, but does that mean that it has more depth? These Wii games might convince some people to get up off their duffs, though, and do some of these activities for real. I know after many games of Wii Bowling, I actually thought that it might be fun to go and do the real thing, something I would've never thought a month ago prior to buying the console. But I also don't think there's anything wrong with playing these games at home instead. As others have said, this is the first gaming system since the Atari that I was able to get my parents to play. And they loved it! All of my friends that consider themselves "hard core" games have loved playing it, one of which has since decided that he wants to buy a Wii before getting a 360. There's absolutely nothing wrong with having a system that is **gasp** actually fun and appeals to a large number of people. By appealing to so many people, doesn't it just show that Nintendo has done something right? |
Originally Posted by jeffdsmith
No surprise the apology came, the bottom line is Nintendo already has 60% the market share the 360 has.
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Originally Posted by Vandelay_Inds
And for the technology involved, the Wii is the most overpriced and overhyped piece of hardware I can remember.
Seriously, I've been playing video games since the Colecovision and the arcade debut of Pong. (Was playing pinball before that, of course!) And I still know th value of a dollar. And the Wii is neither overhyped nor overpriced IMO. Many non-gamers love to pick it up and play. You simply cannot swing a racket or bowl a string on the other more "advanced" (and more expensive) consoles. And with bowling at around $10 per string (per person) here in NYC (not to mention the watery overpriced beer they serve!), the Wii will pay for itself in no time just with bowling alone! And am I missing something, or aren't *games* supposed to be "fun"? They are called games for a reason--they are meant to be played, and playing is supposed to be fun. If I want "art," then I'll go to a museum! |
To all those who say people should put down Wii Sports and go play outside. From Newsday.com :
On the other hand, David Young, a Nintendo consumer service supervisor, told the Los Angeles Times that Wii Sports has proved a boon for people who can't exercise in conventional ways. He cited cases of a young girl with cerebral palsy playing the games from a wheelchair, a 44-year-old man with degenerative disc problems who can bowl and golf with Wii, and a teenage boy who uses the device to rehabilitate his right arm, which was impaired by a stroke. |
So just as the PS3 cures cancer, the Wii provides physical therapy for the handicapped.
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how does the ps3 cure cancer?
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Originally Posted by Rinoas_KnighT
how does the ps3 cure cancer?
August 25, 2006 - Back when Ken Kutagari said we'd want to work extra hours to afford a PlayStation 3, a lot of people took some offence to the idea that they should sacrifice part of their lives to benefit Sony. While a $600 PS3 will still mean some sacrifice is necessary for most buyers, today we've learned it won't just be Sony you'll benefit with the purchase. Via a partnership between Sony and the Folding@home distributed computing project, a client is being developed that will allow idle Cell Processors to turn their considerable computational power from crunching the polygons that makeup curvaceous videogame breasts to crunching the math of folding proteins that hold the secret to curing cancer. Like the old SETI@home project that harnessed idle PCs to analyze masses of data collected by radio telescopes in hopes of discovering signals from another world, the Folding@home project will rely upon an army of PlayStation 3s rather than expensive super computers. Thanks to new computational methods that are able to use streaming processors like the PS3's Cell, and before long, ATI graphics cards, Folding@home believes it will be able to take its research to a higher order of magnitude. The Cell Processor is expected to perform calculations for Folding@home on the scale of 100 gigaflops. With 10,000 PS3s churning away, Folding@home expects Petaflop performance (that's a Quadrillion--1,000,000,000,000,000 floating point operations per second). There are currently only 200,000 actively-processing Folding@home computers today, which means an influx of millions of PS3s capable of joining the project could massively expand the capabilities of the Folding@home, enough so that project leaders are now considering expanding their simulations to study Alzheimer's and Huntington's Diseases and other forms of cancer. We think it's pretty cool that the gaming collective may soon be able to put our expensive toys to humanitarian good. Not only will kids have a great reason to nag for a PS3 this Christmas ("But Mom, it cures cancer! If you won't buy it for me Granny will DIE!") but an eventual success could give our generation the extra years we'll need to finally get some photo-realistic gaming going on. If you're a selfish type that wants some immediate return on allowing your Cell Processor to soak up your electricity, fear not. The Folding@home PS3 client will put the RSX graphics chip to use to display the actual protein folding process in real-time. Users will be able to fly around a large black void examining the atoms and molecules that'll eventually save you or kill you off. Just think, the next time your girlfriend gets mad because you're sitting on the couch with the PS3, you'll be able to look her straight in the eye with your best Clooney impression, point to the TV, and say "Baby, I'm saving lives. What have you done today?" |
Originally Posted by Groucho
Wow, that's nuts. Imagine what the market share would be if people could actually find these on the shelves. :lol:
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