kakihara1

You can build one for under $800 that will be much better than one you can buy for $800

darkside

I just built one for under $800 and can play any DX9 game currently out there. I can't turn the sliders all the way up, but I can play everything in high quality. When DX10 comes out I will be out of luck, but I'm enjoying a ton of games currently available.

Tracer Bullet

Come on. You said it yourself- it was a crappy console port. Games that are built for the PC run much better than that.

GreenMonkey

Yikes! You must either be one of the graphics whores or do a bad job building PCs. I've never built a PC more often than once every 2-3 years, and lately it's a lot less than that. I'm on the same socket as I was 3 years ago.

Given some scrounging for deals you can get a PC that plays games well for WAY less than $800. For that matter, you can even grab a system on the cheap. My coworker bud got a refurb Dell e521 with a dual-core 3800+, 1GB, DVD burner, 160GB drive, etc for $380 a while back. Toss in a decent but not too power-hungry video card (say an Nvidia 7600gt for $150 or so) and you should be good to go.

If you do the deal scrounging, you can probably do sub-$500. If I priced out my system or something like it in socket 939 right now it would cost about $500.

JaxComet

8 Million World of Warcraft players would probably disagree. I own and XBOX 360 and a Wii (not sure why) and have barely played either since I picked up WOW in late May of last year.

I did purchase Gears of War and Zelda but the experience now seems hollow in comparison. I was never a fan of MMORPGs and it's hard to explain but WOW has basically ruined console gaming for me.

kakihara1

[QUOTE=JaxComet]8 Million World of Warcraft players would probably disagree. I own and XBOX 360 and a Wii (not sure why) and have barely played either since I picked up WOW in late May of last year.

I did purchase Gears of War and Zelda but the experience now seems hollow in comparison. I was never a fan of MMORPGs and it's hard to explain but WOW has basically ruined console gaming for me.[/JaxComet]

After the umpteenth "WOW sold blah blah blah" post I think we can all agree that we get the point.

I saw BeanDip playing WOW once he had been running in a straight line for hours to get to some temple or something it looked REAL fun

Groucho

Bullshit. You can't run in a straight line for hours even if you wanted to: you'd be hitting mountains or a coast within a few minutes. Indeed, a player can get anywhere in the world they need to be in 15 minutes or less.

kakihara1

that's not what it looked like to me man. I admit that I didn't watch his character run for even 15 minutes, but what I did see was absolutely no other characters and a whole lot of nothingness. The way it was explained to me was he was going somewhere to get something and he'd been running for hours. Hell maybe he was talking in WOW hours?

Moral of the story is we all know WOW sold well. That's one game, and overall we all know PC gaming is not dead anyhow.

Baron Of Hell

You guys honestly thing PC gaming is going to survive on the back of 1 or 2 games. WOW that is simply amazing. How many other games do think all those millions of WOW players are buying.

Video games sell rose 18% in 2006. Of that 18% 1% were due to PC games. Of that 1% most of the increase came from 2 games, WOW and The Sims. Sure PC games will never die completely but soon it will be regulated to mac status as a gaming source.

Groucho

I'm reminded of all the "Nintendo will go the way of Sega" posts we've seen on this forum in the past.

Fact is that PC gaming is here to stay. It will never again compete with consoles in terms of $$$ but there's absolutely no data to support the idea that it is on the way out.

Brian Shannon

PC Gaming is fine, it is a niche market and not going anywhere. Besides WoW, there are many other MMORPGS still in existence with more on the way.

Warhammer and Lord of the Rings are both due out this year and will likely do very well.

For what it is worth I have stopped playing my Xbox.

msdmoney

Gun just sucked for the PC, it has nothing to do with your PC not meeting specs, they just did a terrible job with the game on the PC. My PC has better specs, and I encountered the same problems while running much better graphical games with no problems.

Supermallet

That's funny, because that's how Oblivion makes me feel about WOW. Not a console vs. PC thing, as Oblivion is on the PC, but I found WOW to be a fairly shallow game in comparison to Oblivion.

JaxComet

Maybe shallow in parts but with much more longevity.

I put around 120 hours into Oblivion and found it to be quite fun but eventually it got too easy. You could be a Warrior, yet master magic. The game also had no real economy. Money and high end weapons/armor were plentiful.

I'm not hating on console gaming. That's all I really did up until around a year ago. It just now seems a bit depressing that if I put a new game into my 360 I'll be done with it in about 20 hours (Oblivion is an exception).

Josh H

He said regulated to Mac status, that seems to agree with you saying it will never compete with consoles in sales again.

Just like Macs will never compete with PCs.

Josh H

I actually like that. I get sick of games fast and I'm usually glad to finish one and move on to something else.

fumanstan

Except it won't be anywhere near that extreme, as "Mac gaming" is almost non-existent.

Josh H

I don't think he meant Mac gaming, just that PC games will be to console games as the Mac is to the PC in general.

But I could be reading it wrong.

slop101

Depressing? I think that's great - 20 hours for a $20-$50 game is just fine with me. I hardly even have the time to put in much more than 20 hours a month into games - I don't even touch multi-player, and yet I seem to get my money's worth.

Silt

You sure can tell who the console fanbois are in this thread. Making absurd comments like the above is as bad as others trying to claim PC gamers have to spend $500 a year in upgrades just to game. If you are going to argue PC gaming vs consoles, do it without making shit up.

BTW, all of you console people touting the gamepad as the superior controller....I mentioned this earlier(oddly none of you commented on it), but if the gamepad is such a great controller, why do games like Halo/Halo 2 have a built in auto-aim?

Josh H

I don't think anyone has said the controller was superior to the mouse for aiming.

People have said it's a trade off as the mouse is awesome but the keyboard sucks.

It's one of the reasons I've never gotten very into FPS. On the consoles I struggle with aiming because aiming with the right stick isn't nearly precise or stable enough. On PCs I struggle with strafing/moving, using grenades, special moves, using items etc. as I suck at the keyboard part. I've pretty much just resigned myself to playing just the occasional FPS on the PC and playing on easy to offset my keyboard suckiness.

kakihara1

Obviously you can't tell shit......I'm not making it up I see dude running ask what he's doing he explains, simple as that. You want details as to why he would tell me that fkn ask him.

Now with that said you come in and make absurd statements about console gamers with their gamepads and whatnot. I play Half-Life, Counterstrike, Battlefield 2, Halo PC, Warcraft III, C&C, Morrowind, etc. And you can ask many people here who know me that know I'm absolutely obsessed with all things "Unreal".

So I guess you basically just came in to talk shit to an actual PC gamer who happens to love playing on consoles as well. Good One. You could go and take the time to notice that I've reviewed PC games for this very website, but have chosen to take a step back from those due to lack of a decent video card.

BTW both console bashing, and "fanboi" comments are against the very rules of this forum.

Silt

What absurd comments did I make?

Nope, I came in to talk to to someone that made a comment about WoW that was total bullshit. Do your "reviews" contain the same kinds of misinformation that your post did?

slop101

To expand on what Josh said, using a keyboard for movement (not aiming) is for shit. I had to give up on Half Life 2 after falling off a platform for the millionth time because there's no way to make precise movements quickly without holding down 2 or 3 buttons at the same time. Playing HL2 again on the Xbox was sheer joy, as I didn't have to strugle with my character's movement and handling nearly as much as I did with the PC.

fumanstan

I'm the opposite. The keyboard is incredibly easy to use and move around in for me, and the extra keys allow for more control over various functions in game. I'm not really sure why the WASD controls typically used for something like FPS games would be considered difficult.