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Josh H 12-02-06 12:03 PM

Yeah, if it's that bad you'll just have to exchange or return it regardless of whether you keep or eBay it.

GIjon213 12-02-06 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Save Ferris
If you can feel cosmetic damage to the unit dont even try to ebay it without stating all the details and then you'll take a hit on how much youll make in profit--perhaps a loss even.

I wouldnt feel comfortable using a device that took such a shock.

Exactly, that is how I feel. And I wouldn't Ebay this specific item, that is for sure. Not only will I probably loose money, I will probably have to deal with a pissed off customer whose PS3 isn't working. I was talking about the possibility of Ebaying it before I saw the damage. I really don't want to, and I have been saving my pennies for one of these. But a Christmas bonus I was expecting (read: promised) has been late in coming, and I don't feel like pissing off any higher-ups by asking for it. So we will see, I will hopefully get this exchanged out and get to keep it.

MikeShaynePI 12-02-06 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by collven
Use something like this: Netgear WGE111

It's what I have and works great. Seems to get a better signal than a USB adapter. DLink and Linksys sell something similar. Actually, any wireless bridge should do. Just make sure to search around online for the best price.

Was hoping for something smaller than that one. Like the one microsoft has for the 360.

ChrisHicks 12-03-06 01:15 AM

for anyone who is using component video cables for the PS2 with their PS3, can you still use the optical plug? I hit 3 Best Buys today and none had any PS3 cables but they had a ton of the Psyclone PS2 sets. the thing was is that they had this big rubber sheild around the plug and it looked like if I used them I wouldn't be able to use the optical out. is anyone using the Psyclone PS2 component cables and optical out?

collven 12-03-06 04:17 AM

I can still use the optical out with my PS2 component cables.

Harry Lime 12-03-06 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by ChrisHicks
for anyone who is using component video cables for the PS2 with their PS3, can you still use the optical plug? I hit 3 Best Buys today and none had any PS3 cables but they had a ton of the Psyclone PS2 sets. the thing was is that they had this big rubber sheild around the plug and it looked like if I used them I wouldn't be able to use the optical out. is anyone using the Psyclone PS2 component cables and optical out?

I had the exact same problem with the exact same cables. I bought the PS2 psyclone cables and it was so big that it wouldn't allow me to plug in the optical. I fixed it by buying the PS3 psyclone cables (link below) it has the same design but it has a narrower head and it works with the optical.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1155065410910

Supermallet 12-03-06 02:59 PM

I know there's a Gamestop brand component cable (I think they're actually manufactured by Pelican) that uses the original PS2 head.

MonsterMan 12-03-06 08:14 PM

How would you rate the picture quality right out of the box (w/ composite cables)? I'm debating whether to go the component route or HDMI.

Liver&Onions 12-03-06 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by MonsterMan
How would you rate the picture quality right out of the box (w/ composite cables)? I'm debating whether to go the component route or HDMI.

Composite = Shit.

Go either HDMI or component is far better.

MonsterMan 12-03-06 08:43 PM

Aren't there reported problems with the HDMI input? I could have sworn that I read something concerning the matter on CAG.

I knew I wasn't crazy. Here's the link:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/archive...oblem.php#more

taffer 12-03-06 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by MonsterMan
How would you rate the picture quality right out of the box (w/ composite cables)? I'm debating whether to go the component route or HDMI.

If you plan to game in HD, then you need component or HDMI. Composite is a primitive technology and will never get you above 480i.

MikeShaynePI 12-04-06 02:44 AM


Originally Posted by MonsterMan
Aren't there reported problems with the HDMI input? I could have sworn that I read something concerning the matter on CAG.

I knew I wasn't crazy. Here's the link:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/archive...oblem.php#more

I use an HDMI cable for my PS3 and have had no problems.

DJ_Longfellow 12-04-06 08:26 AM

So, when SHOULD PS3's be readily available??? I want to use my GameRush credit on one, but I know I'll have to wait a while until we can get a PS3 anywhere in the US.

Brooklyn 12-04-06 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by Suprmallet
I know there's a Gamestop brand component cable (I think they're actually manufactured by Pelican) that uses the original PS2 head.

Stay away from the Gamestop multi-unit component cables, interference up
the you know what.

ChrisHicks 12-04-06 11:09 AM

I've been checking for days at all the local Best Buys for those Psyclone PS3 cables with no luck. I just broke down and ordered them at bestbuy.com instead. I swear the reason I can't find them locally is because I have a 12% off coupon as well as $50.00 in reward certs.

bahgee 12-04-06 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by DJ_Longfellow
So, when SHOULD PS3's be readily available??? I want to use my GameRush credit on one, but I know I'll have to wait a while until we can get a PS3 anywhere in the US.


Purely a guess, but I'm hoping they become somewhat easier to find around Spring, when Sony has its year end.

DJ_Longfellow 12-04-06 01:11 PM

Yeah, I hope so...maybe I should take my credit and convert to something else...who knows. I know GameRush is not the ideal place to score a PS3.

Liver&Onions 12-04-06 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by DJ_Longfellow
So, when SHOULD PS3's be readily available??? I want to use my GameRush credit on one, but I know I'll have to wait a while until we can get a PS3 anywhere in the US.

if you look at the 360 as a datapoint, I'd guess late January/Feb. But if you take into consideration the blu-diode concerns, it could be longer. Who knows.

DJ_Longfellow 12-04-06 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by Liver&Onions
if you look at the 360 as a datapoint, I'd guess late January/Feb. But if you take into consideration the blu-diode concerns, it could be longer. Who knows.

Thanks...I really was just wondering if Sony said anything...apparently not, which I was I thought.

Decker 12-04-06 04:43 PM

The PS3 theft saga takes a tragic turn:
Police kill suspect in PlayStation 3 robbery
Police tried to serve student with warrant in case of stolen video games

The Associated Press
Updated: 1:37 p.m. PT Dec 4, 2006
WILMINGTON, N.C. - A teenager accused of robbing a student of two new Playstation 3s on the day the popular game consoles were introduced was shot to death by police sent to arrest him.

Peyton Strickland, 18, was killed Friday at a house he shared with three roommates, New Hanover County Sheriff Sid Causey said.

“If this boy would’ve come to the door, opened the door, we probably wouldn’t be talking,” the sheriff said Sunday.

Roommate Mike Rhoton said Strickland was unarmed, but may have been holding a video game controller when he went to the door as it was bashed in by officers.

Authorities promised Monday to fully investigate the fatal shooting. “No one is above the law and no one is beneath its protection,” District Attorney Ben David said. He declined to discuss details of the case.

The State Bureau of Investigation is examining the case and three deputies on the team were placed on paid leave, normal practice whenever officers fire their weapons, Causey said.

Arrest warrants alleged that Strickland, a student at Cape Fear Community College, and a University of North Carolina-Wilmington student stole two PlayStation units from another UNC-Wilmington student that day.

The sheriff said the robbery victim had waited three days in line to buy two Playstation 3 units for $641 each at a Wal-Mart. He was unloading the units at his campus apartment when one man beat him to the ground while another took the PlayStations, Causey said.

The sheriff said Strickland was shot by members of a a special police unit who went to help university officers serve warrants. He would not say why the special team was assisting.

Strickland’s dog, a German shepherd, also was shot to death.

The second man named in the warrants was arrested at another address and was released on bail on Saturday, authorities said.

The nationwide introduction of the Sony game system on Nov. 17 was marked by rowdy crowds and store stampedes. One buyer waiting in line at a Connecticut store was shot by armed robbers.


Note to self : Drop the wireless controller before answering door.

mrpayroll 12-04-06 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by Decker
The PS3 theft saga takes a tragic turn:
Police kill suspect in PlayStation 3 robbery
Police tried to serve student with warrant in case of stolen video games

The Associated Press
Updated: 1:37 p.m. PT Dec 4, 2006
WILMINGTON, N.C. - A teenager accused of robbing a student of two new Playstation 3s on the day the popular game consoles were introduced was shot to death by police sent to arrest him.

Peyton Strickland, 18, was killed Friday at a house he shared with three roommates, New Hanover County Sheriff Sid Causey said.

“If this boy would’ve come to the door, opened the door, we probably wouldn’t be talking,” the sheriff said Sunday.

Roommate Mike Rhoton said Strickland was unarmed, but may have been holding a video game controller when he went to the door as it was bashed in by officers.

Authorities promised Monday to fully investigate the fatal shooting. “No one is above the law and no one is beneath its protection,” District Attorney Ben David said. He declined to discuss details of the case.

The State Bureau of Investigation is examining the case and three deputies on the team were placed on paid leave, normal practice whenever officers fire their weapons, Causey said.

Arrest warrants alleged that Strickland, a student at Cape Fear Community College, and a University of North Carolina-Wilmington student stole two PlayStation units from another UNC-Wilmington student that day.

The sheriff said the robbery victim had waited three days in line to buy two Playstation 3 units for $641 each at a Wal-Mart. He was unloading the units at his campus apartment when one man beat him to the ground while another took the PlayStations, Causey said.

The sheriff said Strickland was shot by members of a a special police unit who went to help university officers serve warrants. He would not say why the special team was assisting.

Strickland’s dog, a German shepherd, also was shot to death.

The second man named in the warrants was arrested at another address and was released on bail on Saturday, authorities said.

The nationwide introduction of the Sony game system on Nov. 17 was marked by rowdy crowds and store stampedes. One buyer waiting in line at a Connecticut store was shot by armed robbers.


Note to self : Drop the wireless controller before answering door.

You live by the controller, you die by the controller!

Chris

The Bus 12-04-06 05:14 PM

Don't know if this was posted but this more to DJ Longfellow's response:

In bold is N'Gai Croal, Newsweek reporter. In non-bold is EA CEO Larry Probst. From this interview:



Here's my first question. PS3 is supply constrained and will likely remain so until early 2008. 360 demand is--


Whoa, whoa, whoa. Early 2008?

You don't think so?

I don't think they'll be supply constrained that long. You think all through 2007 they'll be supply constrained?

Well, looking back to the PS2 launch, Sony shipped a million units for the Japanese debut, most of which sold in the first 48 hours. But for the Japanese launch of PS3, they only shipped around 80,000 units, more than ten times fewer machines. So they're nowhere near meeting demand in Japan. In North America, Sony shipped just under 500,000 units for the PS2 launch, but only 200,000 units for the PS3 launch. So they don't have enough supply to meet demand here. Sony launched in Asia with less than 20,000 units. And early next year, they have to start stockpiling units for the European launch in March 2007--assuming that date doesn't slip. So we're looking at four territories where supply probably won't meet demand, and by the time Sony starts to catch up, it'll be holiday 2007, where the combination of big AAA games and gift-giving will increase demand even more.

So you're not believing their projection of 6 million units shipped by the end of March?

Even if they somehow get to that, will that be enough to satisfy the global demand?

I don't think that they would catch up in the first quarter of 2007, but at some point in calendar '07 I think they catch up to demand. I don't think it takes until the early part of 2008. It doesn't happen in early 2007, but it happens in that year.
I would be surprised if they are still hard to find by February, personally.

Harry Lime 12-04-06 05:17 PM

The first batch of PSOne games have been released for the US they are...

Crash Bandicoot - 469MB
Cool Boarders - 283MB
Hot Shots Golf 2 - 157MB
Syphon Filter - 385MB
Tekken 2 - 535MB

$5.99 each

Look for more to come in the following days/weeks.

Enjoy!

BBEANLPHIE 12-04-06 07:32 PM

Just got a 20 gig one in the Jersey Lodi gamestop. Took a day off today and called the 20 closest gamestops and one had a 20 gig one just come in. Guy wouldnt save it for me as I told him I know you make commision off the warranty so if you save it ill get the warranty he said no go. I sped from queens NY to Lodi NJ within 40 minutes wearing pajamas and picked it up. Once I got in I asked him if the system was sold he said joked around saying it just got sold and laughed. 2 other people in the store said *what you have it in stock ?* Lucky I asked first. Whew

pizzamousechips 12-04-06 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by Decker
The PS3 theft saga takes a tragic turn:
Police kill suspect in PlayStation 3 robbery
Police tried to serve student with warrant in case of stolen video games

The Associated Press
Updated: 1:37 p.m. PT Dec 4, 2006
WILMINGTON, N.C. - A teenager accused of robbing a student of two new Playstation 3s on the day the popular game consoles were introduced was shot to death by police sent to arrest him.

Peyton Strickland, 18, was killed Friday at a house he shared with three roommates, New Hanover County Sheriff Sid Causey said.

“If this boy would’ve come to the door, opened the door, we probably wouldn’t be talking,” the sheriff said Sunday.

Roommate Mike Rhoton said Strickland was unarmed, but may have been holding a video game controller when he went to the door as it was bashed in by officers.

Authorities promised Monday to fully investigate the fatal shooting. “No one is above the law and no one is beneath its protection,” District Attorney Ben David said. He declined to discuss details of the case.

The State Bureau of Investigation is examining the case and three deputies on the team were placed on paid leave, normal practice whenever officers fire their weapons, Causey said.

Arrest warrants alleged that Strickland, a student at Cape Fear Community College, and a University of North Carolina-Wilmington student stole two PlayStation units from another UNC-Wilmington student that day.

The sheriff said the robbery victim had waited three days in line to buy two Playstation 3 units for $641 each at a Wal-Mart. He was unloading the units at his campus apartment when one man beat him to the ground while another took the PlayStations, Causey said.

The sheriff said Strickland was shot by members of a a special police unit who went to help university officers serve warrants. He would not say why the special team was assisting.

Strickland’s dog, a German shepherd, also was shot to death.

The second man named in the warrants was arrested at another address and was released on bail on Saturday, authorities said.

The nationwide introduction of the Sony game system on Nov. 17 was marked by rowdy crowds and store stampedes. One buyer waiting in line at a Connecticut store was shot by armed robbers.


Note to self : Drop the wireless controller before answering door.

I really wonder what warranted multiple shots to be fired. I mean, did the boy sic his dog at the police? Did they then mistake the wireless controller for a firearm? I hope it was justified.

fujishig 12-04-06 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by taffer
If you plan to game in HD, then you need component or HDMI. Composite is a primitive technology and will never get you above 480i.

And I still wonder why in the world they include composite cables and not (at the very least) component. I mean, how old does your TV have to be to not have component, and why would you invest in a $600 system just to play it on such a tv?

BBEANLPHIE 12-04-06 09:57 PM

I just hooked mine up with HDMI to my 42 inch westinghouse that is 1080p capable , but when I choose 1080p manually in the setup it always blanks out and goes to a scrambled screen and switches back. When I choose automatic it chooses 720p as the preferred resolution. Anyone else have this problem?

Fandango 12-04-06 10:05 PM

The Wii doesn't even include component cables and also use a different connector than the ones for Gamecube. Nintendo doesn't even lose money on the Wii so I can't really kill Sony for not including it in the PS3. Sony at least made the PS2 component cables compatible with the PS3.

I have the 37" Westinghouse and the fix for my tv is switching inputs and back to the HDMI. There are certain problems with some TVs and the HDMI on the PS3. The fix for the 42" seems to be to use a HDMI-DVI adapter.

Setzer 12-04-06 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by Fandango
I have the 37" Westinghouse

Sorry for going off-topic......Fandango, how do you like the Westinghouse? This is the set I'm looking at getting.

Fandango 12-05-06 12:00 AM

The set is great, although I don't have anything to compare it to but to my eyes the picture is sharp. Great value.

argh923 12-05-06 12:07 AM

I also have the 37" Westinghouse...I love it. It's my first HDTV, and I haven't regretted it for an instant.

Decker 12-05-06 01:33 AM


Originally Posted by pizzamousechips
I really wonder what warranted multiple shots to be fired. I mean, did the boy sic his dog at the police? Did they then mistake the wireless controller for a firearm? I hope it was justified.

Well, perhaps they considered the non-replacable battery in the Sixaxis to be an explosive device?

Michael Ballack 12-05-06 02:45 AM

I have a question. First I don't have a PS3 yet(like most people) but plan to sometime next year when I can walk into a store and just pick one up easily. I have a 26'' Toshiba HDTV(26hf84) that converts 480p to 540p and from what I could tell in my manual converts 720p to 1080i and 1080i to 1080i. So I'm pretty sure it accepts 720p, but converts it to 1080i. So, if and when I get a PS3, if I set the ps3 to 720p and I play a 720p game, will my tv still downrez the game to 480p even though my tv can accept 720p but convert it to 1080i?

Fandango 12-05-06 03:31 AM

I think if your TV does not display 720p it will get downres to 480p.

illini420 12-05-06 03:36 AM


Originally Posted by collven
I can still use the optical out with my PS2 component cables.


Had the same problem when I opened up my PS3 on launch day to set it up. I used monster component cables and monster optical audio cables on my PS2, each of which has really fat heads. They didn't really line up correctly, but instead of being patient, I forced them in. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I noticed a faint green/blue line that would track from the bottom of my screen to the top when using the PS3. I figured I must have damaged my component cable when forcing it in. So I finally got a new component cable (a cheap $25 one from Best Buy) and that one is about 10x worse with the tracking lines than my original monster cable. I read on some other forums when searching that it is probably electronic interference, but I have no idea how to fix that, I've tried plugging into several different outlets and hooking to different tv's, all with the same line on the screen problem. I'm more convinced that I damaged the PS3 input slot by forcing my cable in. Wish I could test the HDMI output, but I have an old HDTV.

So I finally got sick of it, called Sony and they shipped me a box overnight with another box to overnight the system to them. Said they'd ship me an entire new unit w/in 5 business days via overnight. Sending it out tomorrow. Just sucks that I can't keep the original hard drive, will have to redo all my settings and redownload my demos, which takes forever it seems. Hopefully the new unit doesn't cause me the same display problems. We'll see. At least I have my new Wii to hold me over for the week I'll be without PS3!! :)

Shannon Nutt 12-05-06 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by Fandango
I think if your TV does not display 720p it will get downres to 480p.

I have a TV that upconverts 720 to 1080, and all my 720 PS3 games only show up in 480.

Michael Ballack 12-05-06 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
I have a TV that upconverts 720 to 1080, and all my 720 PS3 games only show up in 480.

Just curious, what do you have your ps3 set for? I heard you can select both 720p and 1080i for your tv if it accepts it.

kakihara1 12-05-06 02:06 PM

Regardless of whether or not your TV will Display 720p if it accepts 720p then that's where the PS3s job should end. Your TV has to upscale to 1080i. So long as your PS3 is set properly to output to 720p you shouldn't have any problems.

Does the PS3 not output to 1080i? if so wtf is up with that? it's a standard HD resolution.

BBEANLPHIE 12-05-06 02:10 PM

I am extremely underwhelmed with the PS3 so far. All these little problem here and there


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