Forget the Official PS3 Thread, we need an Official PS2 Thread
 

Hey Sony, if you want people to buy your $600 PS3, maybe you should stop making us spend all our money on your stupid AAA titles that you keep releasing for the PS2. :mad:

I mean seriously, it's getting a little ridiculous here. There's like a dozen awesome PS2 games covering pretty much every major genre that just came out or are coming out in the next month or two. You've got...

Xenosaga III (RPG)
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Rule of Rose (Survival Horror)
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Disgaea 2 (Strategy RPG)
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Yakuza (Action/Adventure/Gangsta)
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Okami (Action/Adventure)
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Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria (RPG)
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God Hand (Action)
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Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner (Devil Worshipping Sim)
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Tales of the Abyss (Action-RPG)
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Bully (Collumbine Sim)
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.hack//G.U. (Psuedo-MMO)
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Final Fantasy XII (RPG)
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Guitar Hero 2 (Rhythm)
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Sega Genesis Collection (28 Genny Games)
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And that's just the games that are only coming out on the PS2, to say nothing of cross-platform releases like Phantasy Star Universe, Lego Star Wars II, etc. Where am I supposed to get the money for all this?

PS2 forever baby. I wish they come out with a grey version in the US. Damn you Japan damn you to hell.

And I haven't even bought Shadow of the Colussus yet. I kinda get the feeling that the Gamecube was the only console of the current/previous generation that really needed upgrading. I know I'm not the first person to notice that developers really hit their stride several years into a console's lifespan, having learned all the ins and outs and etc, and then the hardware company's yank the rug out from under them.

I've been playing Xenosaga III and Yakuza, having a blast with both. Although you really need to play XS I & II to get much out of III, I think. XS III has a recap for both games, but that's more for people who have already played the first two games, and then are wondering WTF was going on from 2 years ago when we last saw our intripid heroes.

Yakuza's a good game for people who liked Shenmue but wished their was less looking for sailors, and more kicking people's asses.

And Okami comes out tomorrow, yay! This game is going to be SWEET. It looks amazing, and it's been pulling down 9.0+ across the board at all the major review sites.

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GHII is the only one of those I am remotely interested in. And, I'm hoping it comes out for the 360 instead.

Bully is not a Columbine Sim.

But you're right that Sony is actually showing that just because the next gen is here (or will be here when they say it is ;) ), that doesn't mean you have to abandon the last generation.

Devil Summoner is not a devil worshipping sim, it's an action rpg whereby you're
a detective trying to solve a mystery. You can capture some of the enemies to
use as your battle party member (one at a time) or field map helper/familiar
(each type has a special talent... find items, tell enemy type, float).

Having just finished the import PSU this week, IMO you can most certainly
take it off the list of AAA titles. As a huge fan of PSO (9 characters,
hundreds of hours logged and a few guides written) I can't politely express
how disappointing PSU was. Stale monotonous gameplay would be an
understatement. Everything is changed, and none of it for the better.
Think Final Fight with level raising.

And has anyone tried Rule of Rose? It looked like it was in the vein of Silent Hill, but looked like it could be a little too much like Silent Hill.

Ah, for some reason I had been thinking of PS2 and DS as the kings of Holiday 2006.. but looking at your list there's only two must haves: Valkyrie Profile 2 and Tales of the Abyss. Rule of Rose, Okami and God Hand are maybes. Then there's the Capcom Classic Collection 2.. which, if they remove the disgusting, putrid over-blurring of the graphics from the first disc, could be freaking awesome. I'm also importing Tales of Destiny, which will probably be my top game for the season! Hmm.. maybe there is a lot for me on the PS2, I might just be in shock knowing my DS collection is going to DOUBLE in the next couple of months.

Okami looks to be one of the games that will make me genuinely sad i never owned a PS2 - it looks incredible.

gonna get all except guitar hero and the genesis collection. awesome winter.

I agreed there are still some good games coming out for the PS2. I'm waiting for the first Tomb Raider to come out with upgraded graphics. Can't wait to see what the T-Rex look liked when it come chasing after Lara.

Dont be haters--Isnt the ps3 going to be backwards compatable??

Not that im buying a ps2 or 3, Im just saying.

Just a little joke, you guys. ;)

You haven't checked out our review section, have you?

That's kind of surprising to me. I figured you'd be all over that game. :D

I have a good feeling (wish?) that when (if?) more developer focus is turned to the PS3 we may get some publishers looking for out-of-the-mainstream Japanese titles for some continued PS2 budget goodness. How about making a Cave shooter pack: Dodopachi Daiouju, Espgaluda, Mushi Himesama and Ibara on one disc?! What about the budget Ys remakes (I-V) combined for a single English release? More 2D RPGs?!

I don't see 2D, budget, and remakes being in the PS3 vocabulary.

I think he meant maybe some more of those will come out for the PS2 now.

Yeah, I see that now. That's a good wish.

Playstation 2 Specifications:

CPU: 128 bit "Emotion Engine" clocked at 294 MHz, 10.5 million transistors
System Memory: 32 MB Direct Rambus or RDRAM (note that some computers use this type of RAM)
Memory bus Bandwidth: 3.2 GB per second
Main processor: MIPS R5900 CPU core, 64 bit
Coprocessor: FPU (Floating Point Multiply Accumulator × 1, Floating Point Divider × 1)
Vector Units: VU0 and VU1 (Floating Point Multiply Accumulator × 9, Floating Point Divider × 1), 128 bit
Floating Point Performance: 6.2 GFLOPS (single precision 32-bit floating point)

3D CG Geometric Transformation: 66 million polygons per second[13]
Compressed Image Decoder: MPEG-2
I/O Processor interconnection: Remote Procedure Call over a serial link, DMA controller for bulk transfer
Cache memory: Instruction: 16KB, Data: 8KB + 16 KB (ScrP)
Graphics: "Graphics Synthesizer" clocked at 147 MHz
Variable from 256x224 to 1280x1024 pixels
4 MB Embedded DRAM video memory
DRAM Bus bandwidth: 47.0GB per second
DRAM Bus width: 2560-bit (composed of three independendent buses: 1024-bit write, 1024-bit read, 512-bit read/write)
Pixel Configuration: RGB:Alpha:Z Buffer (24:8, 15:1 for RGB, 16, 24, or 32-bit Z buffer)

Dedicated connection to: Main CPU and VU1
Sound: "SPU1+SPU2" (SPU1 is actually the CPU clocked at 8 MHz)
Number of voices: 48 hardware channels of ADPCM on SPU2 plus software-mixed channels
Sampling Frequency: 44.1 kHz or 48 kHz (selectable)
Output: Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround sound, DTS, later games achieved analog 5.1 Surround sound through Dolby Pro Logic II
I/O Processor
CPU Core: Original PlayStation CPU (MIPS R3000A clocked at 33.8688 MHz or 37.5 MHz)
Sub Bus: 32 Bit

Connection to: SPU and CD/DVD controller.
Interface Types: 2 proprietary PlayStation controller ports (250KHz clock for PS1 and 500KHz for PS2 controllers), 2 proprietary Memory Card slots using MagicGate encryption (250KHz for PS1 cards, up to 2MHz for PS2 cards), Expansion Bay (PCMCIA on early models for PCMCIA Network Adaptor and External Hard Disk Drive) DEV9 port for Network Adaptor, Modem and Internal Hard Disk Drive, IEEE 1394 (only in SCPH 10xxx - 3xxxx), Infrared remote control port (SCPH 5000x and newer),[14] and 2 USB 1.1 ports with an OHCI-compatible controller.

Disc Drive type: 24x (PlayStation 2 format CD-ROM, PlayStation format CD-ROM) 4x (Supported DVD formats) Region-locked with anti-copy protection (Can't read "Gold Discs" aka normal CD-ROMs)
Supported Disc Media: PlayStation 2 format CD-ROM, PlayStation format CD-ROM, Compact Disc Audio, PlayStation 2 format DVD-ROM (4.7 GB), DVD Video (4.7 GB). Later models are DVD-9 (8.5 GB Dual-Layer), DVD+RW, and DVD-RW compatible.

What would an Official thread be without specs? NOTHING I TELL YOU!

I want Okami, FFXII, and Guitar Hero II (Preferably on the X360). Otherwise, I haven't gotten much use out of my PS2 lately (Guitar Hero & DQ8 made the system for me.).

No, I didn't, because I don't expect game reviews here until weeks after they're out. :lol: Let me go check it out.

I really wanted to know--The ps3 is expected to have no problems playing ps2 games right?

Even if I do get my hands on a PS3 it's going up on ebay. I can wait a year before I get one for myself. Final Fantasy XII is the only game I need. That alone will keep me occupied for a couple of months.

You can't go wrong by saving some money and getting a PS2 instead of a next-gen console. Plenty of great games already on the shelves and more on the way.