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Michael Corvin 09-25-06 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by DRG
Yeah, but we're talking about standard content. This is like picking up a new Zelda game and finding out it'll cost you ten more bucks to get Link. I can see premium pricing for extras if it's either 1) bonus cheat/unlockable type stuff, or 2) new content developed after the game was released. But this is a scary new precendent. I don't want the game makers to think they can get away with the idea of "bare bones games".

Another downside for the racing game shell, would be the fact that 95% of people will be buying the same 10 best/fastest cars, eliminating everything else. There would be no incentive to purchase a lower class car. Just look how that turned out with Test Drive on the 360.

kgrogers1979 09-25-06 11:45 AM

$1 to download a demo ??


Sony's Tokyo Game Show Conference Reveals Few Details
Posted on Thursday, September 21 @ 21:22:57 PDT
Many people were looking forward to Ken Kutaragi's keynote speech to fill in the many blanks, and with only 2 months to go until launch, give details. Unfortunately most of the speech was filled with technical details on GPS, GMS, shopping, banking, networking, and so forth. A few noteworthy things, demos will cost $1, you will be able to download 16bit games (MegaDrive Genesis, and PC Engine TurboGrafx) over the network, and share them with friends. During a short Q&A it was revealed that the 20gig version will now also feature HDMI, and will receive a price reduction (from 535 to $430) in Japan, as a result of consumer complaints about the high price.
:wtf: I ain't paying to download a #&*!ing demo. :mad2:

Cusm 09-25-06 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by pinata242
Can you elaborate? Granted I already admitted NCAA lags behind a year in the engine and this solution would seem to offset that.

NCAA is always a faster game with a wider field. They appear very similar but they typically play very differently. I have a friend and you slays me in NCAA but I own him in Madden.

Michael Corvin 09-25-06 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by kgrogers1979
$1 to download a demo ??



:wtf: I ain't paying to download a #&*!ing demo. :mad2:

I'm with you, but I'm spoiled on Live. Afterall, when done properly, it is a powerful marketing tool for developers. Why should we pay for their marketing? Look at Capcom. I'm sure Dead Rising was such a hit because of the demo. Would it have been as big if it was $1? I know I probably wouldn't have d/l it or susequently bought it. On the other side of that coin you have the piss poor Full Auto demo that turned people away.

On the other hand I'm sure there is a large amount of people that subscribe to magazines like OXM just to get the demos. :shrug: So you never know. I hope it fails miserably because if Sony makes it work you know MS will start charging as well.

edstein 09-25-06 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
I'm with you, but I'm spoiled on Live. Afterall, when done properly, it is a powerful marketing tool for developers. Why should we pay for their marketing? Look at Capcom. I'm sure Dead Rising was such a hit because of the demo. Would it have been as big if it was $1? I know I probably wouldn't have d/l it or susequently bought it. On the other side of that coin you have the piss poor Full Auto demo that turned people away.

On the other hand I'm sure there is a large amount of people that subscribe to magazines like OXM just to get the demos. :shrug: So you never know. I hope it fails miserably because if Sony makes it work you know MS will start charging as well.

I wouldn't mind paying a 1$ for a demo. At least you can have some fun with it. It's better than paying 2$ for a picture pack. I'm glad the 360 demos, trailers, etc, are free. I have yet to buy any of those picture packs or themes. Same goes for cell phones. They want to charge me $1.50 for a single wallpaper picture. F that.

xmiyux 09-25-06 01:02 PM

I can just about guarantee i would not pay for a demo and i have bought 1-2$ picture packs before. The demos sometimes are a touch choppy, don't show enough of what i want to see or otherwise don't seem worth paying for. It's a bloody marketing campaign for them, why should i pay?

The Dead Rising demo was great and i played it a good deal and it absolutely stirred up my interest in the game. Renting it and the frequent crashes caused me to not buy it. Fusion Frenzy 2 on the other hand was a lame demo and somewhat turned me off the game. If i had paid even a buck for that demo i would have been irritated.

pinata242 09-25-06 01:08 PM

Demos shouldn't cost money, plain and simple. Maybe if the the retail disc would sense you've paid for the demo they'd credit you back the points then I'd be ok with it.

ChrisHicks 09-25-06 01:26 PM

I think Sony is at about a 5 guns to 1 foot ratio at this point.

PixyJunket 09-25-06 01:45 PM

Paying for demos? I mean, that's just plain dumb. I guess $1 isn't THAT much to try a game compared to renting, etc.. but still, Xbox Live demos are free, DS demos are free (sans finding a DS station), PSP demos are free (well, there's only been one so far) and they've been free since the days of early PC gaming (or better than free in the case of shareware.. you got much more than a demo for free).

hail2dking 09-25-06 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by Cusm
NCAA is always a faster game with a wider field...

Wider field? The hash marks are located differently, but the fields are the same width.

Liver&Onions 09-25-06 03:47 PM

joystiq - via IGN has a post about the pricing of PS3 games in Japan.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/25/ja...o-9-800-85-usd

For comparison though... PGR3 is 6069 yen right now on Amazon.co.jp

Fandango 09-25-06 03:57 PM

I don't see what the big deal is, DQ8 and FFXII cost about that much when it came out in Japan.

Liver&Onions 09-25-06 03:59 PM

but those were only a couple games. Just reporting the news...

The Bus 09-25-06 04:33 PM

$1 a demo is actually so low that it is insulting. It creates much more trouble than it's worth. Make it $5 and throw in more stuff, or make it free.

Supermallet 09-25-06 09:53 PM

I told you a free live service would mean more charges down the line.

Draven 09-26-06 01:25 PM

:lol: Paying for a demo is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. The point of the demo is to entice you to buy the full game. You shouldn't have to pay for something like that.

It's like if you had to pay for commercials before you watch them. Most people would just not watch the commercials, so the product isn't seen, so the ad was wasted. Or charging people to watch a trailer for a movie.

Demos are basically long commercials/trailers for a game. There is no way Sony will EVER get a dime out of me for the privilege of trying out a few levels of their $60+ game.

DRG 09-26-06 01:59 PM

The only way I could see paying for a demo is if it came with an exclusive bonus item you could use when you purchased the full game, like an exclusive character outfit or car or something.

Liver&Onions 09-26-06 02:06 PM

OK, looks like pricing has been solidfied for NA. The current next gen price of 59.99 is what Sony went with.
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...der_ps3_games#

Binger 09-26-06 04:21 PM

This may have been answered, but are we going to be able to use a standard HDMI cable on the PS3, or is Sony going to rip us off by making a proprietary connection and cable?

edstein 09-26-06 04:31 PM

Standard.

http://media.teamxbox.com/dailyposts...d_ps3_hdmi.jpg

hail2dking 09-26-06 04:35 PM

But you want the Sony brand HDMI cable....

tenaciousdave 09-26-06 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by hail2dking
But you want the Sony brand HDMI cable....

Why? I can buy a cable of equal or better quality for $5. I'm already getting raped enough on the console as is.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...ormat=2&style=

Fandango 09-26-06 05:15 PM

I think he was just being facetious.

hail2dking 09-26-06 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by tenaciousdave
Why? I can buy a cable of equal or better quality for $5. I'm already getting raped enough on the console as is.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...ormat=2&style=

It was more in reference to all the people that bought the Microsoft Xbox Link Cable for $20+ when a generic $3 cross link cable did the same thing

Save Ferris 09-26-06 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by hail2dking
It was more in reference to all the people that bought the Microsoft Xbox Link Cable for $20+ when a generic $3 cross link cable did the same thing

Hah shows what you know--those cables came with a 3 micron gold plating!!






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