Broussard: "We won't rush Duke Nukem Forever"
06-13-06, 05:18 PM
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Broussard: "We won't rush Duke Nukem Forever"
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6152687.html
Rushing DNF!
Late last week, Take-Two Interactive filed a 10-Q earnings statement with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). Buried inside of it, the company noted that in March, it had renegotiated its agreement with developer 3D Realms to publish the long-in-the-making shooter Duke Nukem Forever.
According to the 10-Q, the two parties agreed to new financial terms, which were listed in the 10-Q in thousands of dollars (figures have been updated to reflect real numbers): "In March 2005, the company [Take-Two] renegotiated a $6,000[,000] contingent obligation due upon delivery of the final PC version of Duke Nukem Forever through the payment of $4,250[,000] and issuance of a promissory note in the principal amount of $500[,000]. The payment of the promissory note is contingent upon the commercial release of such product prior to December 31, 2006."
With Take-Two holding out a $500,000 promissory note as a carrot to get Duke Nukem Forever, some PC gamers became hopeful that the project would be finished in time for the 2006 holiday season. Others worried that the storied title, which has been in development since 1997, would be rushed into production before it was truly ready.
Now, it seems the former group has had their hopes dashed--while the latter group has had its fears allayed. In a post on the 3D Realms forums started in part due to a GameSpot typographical error (which has since been corrected and apologized for), Broussard has dismissed the prospect that 3D Realms would be tempted by a half-million-dollar sum.
"As for the 500k completion bonus, I don't even know were that came from," said the outspoken executive. "I do know that we never cared or asked for it, and I think it was just tossed in as part of some other agreement. We're certainly not motivated by that amount of money, after all this time, and getting the game right is what matters. I would never ship a game early (even a couple of months), for 500k."
Broussard went on to outline the current status of Duke Nukem Forever. "Our deal is simple," he said. "We're making the game. It'll be done when it's done. We've funded 99.999% of the game (aside from a very, very small advance from GT Interactive, years ago, before Take 2 bought the game from them). It's our risk, our necks and our gamble. Under the deal we should be earning royalties from about unit 30,000 or so (that's a real small number)."
According to the 10-Q, the two parties agreed to new financial terms, which were listed in the 10-Q in thousands of dollars (figures have been updated to reflect real numbers): "In March 2005, the company [Take-Two] renegotiated a $6,000[,000] contingent obligation due upon delivery of the final PC version of Duke Nukem Forever through the payment of $4,250[,000] and issuance of a promissory note in the principal amount of $500[,000]. The payment of the promissory note is contingent upon the commercial release of such product prior to December 31, 2006."
With Take-Two holding out a $500,000 promissory note as a carrot to get Duke Nukem Forever, some PC gamers became hopeful that the project would be finished in time for the 2006 holiday season. Others worried that the storied title, which has been in development since 1997, would be rushed into production before it was truly ready.
Now, it seems the former group has had their hopes dashed--while the latter group has had its fears allayed. In a post on the 3D Realms forums started in part due to a GameSpot typographical error (which has since been corrected and apologized for), Broussard has dismissed the prospect that 3D Realms would be tempted by a half-million-dollar sum.
"As for the 500k completion bonus, I don't even know were that came from," said the outspoken executive. "I do know that we never cared or asked for it, and I think it was just tossed in as part of some other agreement. We're certainly not motivated by that amount of money, after all this time, and getting the game right is what matters. I would never ship a game early (even a couple of months), for 500k."
Broussard went on to outline the current status of Duke Nukem Forever. "Our deal is simple," he said. "We're making the game. It'll be done when it's done. We've funded 99.999% of the game (aside from a very, very small advance from GT Interactive, years ago, before Take 2 bought the game from them). It's our risk, our necks and our gamble. Under the deal we should be earning royalties from about unit 30,000 or so (that's a real small number)."
06-13-06, 05:42 PM
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They're a biggest liar in gaming industry. I stopped waiting for them back in 1999 when they CLAIMED that they will release DNF and they never did. Sorry, Broussard, I ain't going to buy DNF if it ever release.
06-14-06, 06:21 AM
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I am honestly surprised that DNF is still in development. This is the first official word on the game in several years. I had figured that the game was quietly cancelled.
I wish they would say what the hell is taking so long though. Duke is a rather old-school style FPS. Why would it possibly take 9+ years to develop? Half-Life 2 "only" took 6 years, and it is a much more massive and epic FPS game than Duke will ever be.
I wish they would say what the hell is taking so long though. Duke is a rather old-school style FPS. Why would it possibly take 9+ years to develop? Half-Life 2 "only" took 6 years, and it is a much more massive and epic FPS game than Duke will ever be.
06-14-06, 07:09 AM
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Well i feel better knowing that they are going to carefully take thier time with this game before releasing it.
I think the last time i cared about this game was like..hmm...1998.
I think the last time i cared about this game was like..hmm...1998.
06-14-06, 07:53 AM
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Somebody actually cares that this game may come out or not? I mean, Duke 3D was cute when it came out and the only other FPS on the market was Doom but will Duke 4 even have anything to make it stand out now when there's a trillion similar products on the market? Besides, I think Serious Sam filled any gap that Duke may have left open as far as action and humor in an FPS.
03-21-07, 09:44 PM
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Duke Nukem Forever Plugging Away
3D Realms admits to screwing up, promises new Duke will be multi-platform.
Duke Nukem Forever has seemingly been in production forever. In fact, the long-awaited PC title has been in the hopper for 10 years. While some thought the game might be axed, it appears Duke Nukem Forever is closer to becoming a reality than previously in its long history. In an interview with YouGamers, 3D Realms CEO Scott Miller confirmed that the title was still in development and that significant progress was being made.
So why has the new Duke Nukem title been stuck in development hell for so long? We fully admit [we] screwed up the development of DNF, and it's now an industry joke," Miller told YouGamers. Adding that 3D Realms "set the bar too high" and "tried too hard to make the game to beat all games." That philosophy has changed over the past year-and-a-half. Miller said that 3D Realms has "taken a much more realistic look at the project, we've hired a truckload of experienced help, and I personally believe we are now on the right track…finally."
Many PC gamers were a bit fearful of DNF, assuming the game would be a true beast that only high-end systems could handle. According to Miller, that's not the case. "We try to support all of the newer, cool whiz-bang graphics features," Miller admitted to YouGamers, "but at the same time we try to make it so the game will run on middle-range machines, too."
Recent rumors suggested that Duke Nukem Forever was also coming to Xbox 360. "The plan is definitely to bring DNF to multiple platforms," Miller said, though he would not name specific consoles.
No release date is in sight for DNF, but it does appear the game is starting to gain some momentum. Perhaps we won't have to wait another decade to enjoy Duke Nukem Forever.
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3D Realms admits to screwing up, promises new Duke will be multi-platform.
Duke Nukem Forever has seemingly been in production forever. In fact, the long-awaited PC title has been in the hopper for 10 years. While some thought the game might be axed, it appears Duke Nukem Forever is closer to becoming a reality than previously in its long history. In an interview with YouGamers, 3D Realms CEO Scott Miller confirmed that the title was still in development and that significant progress was being made.
So why has the new Duke Nukem title been stuck in development hell for so long? We fully admit [we] screwed up the development of DNF, and it's now an industry joke," Miller told YouGamers. Adding that 3D Realms "set the bar too high" and "tried too hard to make the game to beat all games." That philosophy has changed over the past year-and-a-half. Miller said that 3D Realms has "taken a much more realistic look at the project, we've hired a truckload of experienced help, and I personally believe we are now on the right track…finally."
Many PC gamers were a bit fearful of DNF, assuming the game would be a true beast that only high-end systems could handle. According to Miller, that's not the case. "We try to support all of the newer, cool whiz-bang graphics features," Miller admitted to YouGamers, "but at the same time we try to make it so the game will run on middle-range machines, too."
Recent rumors suggested that Duke Nukem Forever was also coming to Xbox 360. "The plan is definitely to bring DNF to multiple platforms," Miller said, though he would not name specific consoles.
No release date is in sight for DNF, but it does appear the game is starting to gain some momentum. Perhaps we won't have to wait another decade to enjoy Duke Nukem Forever.
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03-22-07, 12:02 AM
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Even though the game has been in development for 10 years and is the joke in computer gaming....all they need is some aggressive/catchy advertising to make sure the game is a top seller when it's finally release. I'm thinking something along the lines of taking out full pages ads with the slogan: "3D Realms is about to make you their bitch".
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Hmm...what will happen first?
The end of the Iraq war,
the release of Duke Nukem Forever,
the release of Chinese Democracy by GnR,
a 'must have' PS3 game,
or a fully electric mass market family sedan.
The end of the Iraq war,
the release of Duke Nukem Forever,
the release of Chinese Democracy by GnR,
a 'must have' PS3 game,
or a fully electric mass market family sedan.
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Assuming this game has indeed been in development all these years, how can they possibly make a profit on the game? They must have spent a fortune in production/development costs.
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* Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
* Grand Theft Auto Advance
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o Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories, PS2 Port
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The Legend of Zelda:
* Ocarina of Time
* Majora's Mask
* Oracle of Ages
* Oracle of Seasons
* The Wind Waker
* Four Swords Adventures
* The Minish Cap
* Six remakes of previous Zelda titles for the Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance and Gamecube.
o Link's Awakening DX, Gameboy Color
o A Link to the Past, Gameboy Advance
o Ocarina of Time, Gamecube
o The Zelda Collector Edition, Gamecube
o Classic NES Series: The Legend of Zelda, Gameboy Advance
o Classic NES Series: Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, Gameboy Advance
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* The Sims Online
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* The Urbz: Sims in the City
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* Every Pokemon game released outside of Japan.
* Every Unreal, every Unreal Tournament, and every game that has used any of the Unreal engines.
* Quake 2, 3, 4, and countless games that have used their engines.
* Every Tony Hawk and extreme sport spin-off game.
* Daikatana began development 10 days before Duke Nukem Forever- Unfortunately no one was made John Romero's bitch when it hit retail shelves on May 23rd, 2000.
* 3DRealms and Remedy bring Max Payne and its sequel from concepts to finished games, porting both to Xbox and PS2.
* Valve released both Half-Life 1 and 2, with several expansion packs and countless mods for each.
* Every version of Counter-Strike and Counter-Strike Source were developed.
* Every Thief game.
* Black Isle was formed, released seven titles and was shut down.
* The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind and IV:Oblivion, and the entire Baldur's Gate series.
* Wizards of the Coast has printed six Core Sets, 30 Expansion Sets of Magic: The Gathering. If someone bought one of every single card printed since DNF was announced, they would have a collection of approximately 101,742 cards.
* Every installment of Metal Gear Solid released to date, as well as Ghost Babel (MGS for the Gameboy) and the Metal Gear Acid series for PSP. And it is likely that the the apparent conclusion of Solid Snake's legacy, "Guns of the Patriots," will come out before DNF.
* A garage full of programmers in Croatia (Croteam) developed the engine and created the game Serious Sam. Since then there have been multiple sequels and console ports- all off a fraction of the money 3D Realms has blown on DNF's development.
* Every 3D Prince of Persia game.
* Aside from Wolfenstein 3D, every single First Person Shooter based during World War II, including the entire Medal of Honor series.
* While DNF has been in production, Blizzard Entertainment, another studio famous for delays, has released four full games(Starcraft, Diablo 2, Warcraft 3, and World of Warcraft), with expansions for three (four when Burning Crusade comes out).
* Bioware released Neverwinter Nights with two expansions, Star Wars: Nights of the Old Republic, and Jade Empire. All games are deep, lengthy RPGs that demand multiple playthroughs.
Video Game Systems:
* Microsoft XBOX
* Microsoft XBOX 360
* Nintendo GameCube
* Nintendo Gameboy Color
* Gameboy Advance
o Gameboy Advance SP
o Gameboy Micro
* Nintendo DS
o Nintendo DS Lite
* Sega Dreamcast
* Sony PSone
* Sony Playstation 2
o Sony Slim Playstation 2
* Sony PSP
* Over 4500 games were released for the above video game systems in the United States.
* Over 350,000,000 consoles and handhelds were sold worldwide.
Fun Facts
Computers & Internet:
* In 1997, the fastest consumer internet connection was a 33.6 kbps modem. On average, consumer internet connections are 300 times faster today.
* When Duke Nukem Forever was announced, the fastest processor available to consumers was a 233Mhz Pentium. Since then the clock speed of consumer processors has increased over 16 times (32 times counting dual cores), and the fabrication process has decreased from 250nm to 65nm.
* In October of 2001, Apple announced the iPod and Slashdot dismissed it as an immediate failure. Since then there have been 5 generations of iPods, as well as the iPod Mini, iPod Shuffle, and iPod Nano with 42 million iPods sold worldwide as of 1/06.
* Steve Jobs was still running NeXT when Duke Nukem Forever was announced.
* Every peer to peer file sharing program including Napster was developed.
* In April of 1997, Google, eBay, and the term "weblog" didn't exist.
* Linux gained at least 10 times the popularity it had while its kernel tripled in size.
* Mac OS switched to UNIX and became the most highly regarded general purpose operating system on the market among the computing press.
* Microsoft released 5 consumer-oriented versions of Windows and might release Vista before Duke Nukem Forever hits shelves.
* Netscape Navigator 4 was released, Microsoft Internet Explorer destroyed it. Netscape 6 released on an entirely different rendering platform, Netscape dies, Mozilla foundation rises. Open-source Mozilla browsers become popular and force Microsoft to start working on new version of Internet Explorer.
* Valve releases Steam and sets a new standard in digital software distribution.
* MySpace has gone from beta to the largest social-networking site in the world (and the fourth most popular English language website).
Disasters:
* There have been 125 tropical cyclones. 73 hurricans in the Atlantic, 52 typhoons in the Pacific.
* There have been over 20 death-toll producing tornado outbreaks in the United States.
* Over 50 major earthquakes have shaken the world, which have shortened the Earth day by 2.68 microseconds.
Economy:
* Adjusted for inflation, the average price of gas in the United States has doubled.
* The Euro was introduced as a new European currency.
* Enron has filed for bankruptcy and folded. Kenneth Lay and Jeffrey Skilling have been arrested on fraud charges and subsequently indicted and convicted. In addition, they will most likely be sentenced before Forever is released.
Movies that were filmed, released in theatres, and have made it to DVD:
* All three Star Wars prequels.
* The entire Lord of the Rings trilogy, with extended editions.
* Every Pixar movie aside from Toy Story.
* Three (possibly four) James Bond films.
* Every movie, animation, and video game from The Matrix series.
* Every Marvel comics movie released.
* Each predictable twist ending of every movie by M. Night Shyamalan.
Pop Culture:
* Britney Spears' entire musical career as a pop star has taken place during Duke Nukem Forever's development.
* Theater box office totals since the announcement are over $2.62 billion.
* Colin Farrell's entire movie career has also taken place during development.
* The concept of Bullet Time has been developed, pioneered, and completely run in to the ground.
* Cellular Phones ownership has become commonplace, whereas in 1997 they were viewed as luxurious expenditures.
* The entire cult following of Family Guy! Family Guy has debuted on FOX, been cancelled, entered syndication, been released on DVD, redebuted on FOX, and seen the release of a feature film.
* Six Harry Potter Books have been released, and four films produced.
* Stephen King has written 16 novels.
* The first episode of South Park was first aired on August 13, 1997, the same year in which DNF was announced. The show is now in the second half of it's tenth season, with 'Tsst' being the 146 episode shown.
* King of the Hill first aired on January 12 of the same year, around the same time prototype work was being done in the Quake Engine for DNF. It recently finished it's tenth season, with 201 episodes.
* The episode count of 'The Simpsons' has more then doubled since DNFs announcement. Season 8, episode 23 was the 176th episode, and aired on May fourth, 1997. The 352nd episode aired on May 1st, 2005.
* Twelve seasons of Survivor. The Thirtenth comes this fall.
* The ending of Star Trek shows Deep Space Nine, Voyager, and the beginning and ending of Enterprise, plus the films First Contact, Insurrection and Nemesis.
* Joss Whedon showed us that he truly is our master with every Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Angel, and Firefly episode. (Oh, and the movie Serenity.)
Science & Technology:
* The Voyager 1 spacecraft has travelled 8.8 billion miles from Earth.
* The two Mars rovers, Spirit and Opportunity were proposed, authorized, announced, designed, launched and successfully landed upon Mars where they have been exploring the surface for over 2.5 years.
* NASA's Deep Impact program also went full circle.
* The International Space Station was assembled and has been orbiting Earth for over 8 years.
* NASA has launched 30 manned space shuttle missions, Russia has launched 17.
* The Airbus A380 "Super Jumbo" plane was designed, built, tested, and delivered to airlines.
* Tier One developed, built, tested, and launched SpaceShipOne- winning the Ansari X-Prize for being the first non-government organization to launch a reusable manned spacecraft into space twice within two weeks.
* In 1997 there were only 50 million US cell phone subscribers in the United States. Today there are more than 200 million, which amounts to over 60% of the population of the USA.
* The U.S.S. Ronald Reagan (the largest nuclear-powered aircraft carrier in the world) was in contract, built, launched, comissioned, and began active duty.
* Costa Concordia, the biggest Italian cruise liner was designed, built and delivered by the Fincantieri shipyards, in Italy.
* The Space Shuttle Columbia burnt up during re-entry, the entire Space Shuttle program went through a safety overhaul, and the Shuttle returned to flight.
Sports
* Since the announcement of Duke Nukem Forever, the single season home run record has been broken. Twice.
* The Red Sox broke their curse by finally winning the world series.
* Two of the greatest NBA Dynasties in history have reigned and ended: The incredible 1990s Chicago Bulls dynasty were still unmatched in '97 and disbanded after the '98 finals. The Los Angeles Lakers acquired Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal in '97 and Phil Jackson in '99, effectively becoming the greatest team in the NBA at the time with another landmark dynasty that lasted from 2000-2002. The Lakers disbanded after losing the finals to the Pistons in 2004.
* There have been five Olympic Games (three winter, two summer).
* Lance Armstrong won the Tour de France 7 consecutive years.
* The World Wrestling Federation has changed its name to World Wrestling Entertainment and bought its two main competitors, WCW and ECW, relaunching ECW, and facing new competition from TNA.
* The Cubs have lost 798 games since April '97.
* St. Louis Cardinals moved from Busch Stadium to new Busch stadium.
* Philidelphia Phillies moved from Veterans Stadium to Citizens Bank Ballpark.
* The Houston Astros moved from the Astrodome to Enron Field (Now Minute-Maid Park).
* The Cincinnati Reds moved from Cinergy Field to Great American Ballpark.
* The Milwaukee Brewers moved from County Stadium to Miller Park.
* The San Diego Padres moved from Qualcomm stadium to Petco Park.
* The Pittsburgh Pirates moved from Three-River Stadium to PNC Park.
* The Detroit Tigers moved from Tiger Stadium to Comerica Park.
* The Seattle Mariners moved from The Kingdome to Safeco Field.
* The Montreal Expos are now the Washington Nationals.
* The Arizona Diamondbacks and Tampa Bay Devil Rays were formed.
* The Cleveland Browns turned into the Baltimore Ravens.
* A new Cleveland Browns team was formed and moved into a new stadium.
* The Cincinnati Bengals moved from Cinergy Field to Paul Brown Stadium.
* The New England Patriots moved from Foxboro Stadium to Gillete Stadium.
* The Tennessee Titans moved into The Coliseum after 3 years at a college football stadium.
* The Pittsburgh Steelers moved from Three-Rivers Stadium to Heinz Field.
* The Denver Broncos moved from Mile High Stadium to Invesco Field.
* The Washington Redskins moved from RFK Stadium to FedEx Field.
* The Phildelphia Eagles moved from Veterans Stadium to Lincoln Financial Field.
* The Tampa Bay Buccaneers moved from Houlihan Stadium to Raymond James Stadium.
* The Detroit Lions moved from the Silverdome to Ford Field.
* The Seattle Seahawks moved from the Kingdome to Qwest Field.
* Brette Farve has passed for 34,891yards while the careers of Ryan Leaf and Cade McNown began, sucked, and ended.
United States Politics:
* The Identity of Deep Throat has been revealed.
* 40 new members have been elected to the Senate.
* The national debt has increased by over 3 trillion dollars.
* The national minimum wage has remained $5.15.
* Bill Clinton finished his presidential term, George W. Bush was elected and re-elected.
World Events:
* 4 nations have acquired nuclear weapons technology.
* 19 wars have begun.
* 5 wars have ended.
* Approximately 509,373,306 people have died and 661,373,082 have been born.
* There have been 7 total solar eclipses and 8 total lunar eclipses.
* The United Kingdom handed sovereignty of Hong Kong to the People's Republic of China.
Things that have taken less time than Duke Nukem Forever's Development:
Pop Culture:
* The Beatles formed, released every single one of their albums and broke up. During this time they also toured the world several times.
* Led Zeppelin released 7 albums, 9 singles, and toured around the world, crossing international borders 27 times (not counting mainland Europe.)
Science & Technology:
* The Wright brothers designed and flew the first airplane.
* The theory of General Relativity.
* The United States' entire program to put a man on the moon, from Kennedy's challenge to the landing.
Wars:
* The American War for Independence
* The United States Civil War
* World War I
* World War II and the entire Manhattan Project.
* The United State's involvement in the Vietnam War.
Credits
Thanks to wntd for the kickin' CSS
Thanks to CaptainPsyko, BonzoESC, n1ck, Fish, MrBrainsample, Skroob, stabby, Josh Taylor, v0idnull, wildfalkon, Joachim Blum, and anyone else I'm missing who chipped in facts for the updated list. Also, thanks to Wikipedia nerds who spend so much time listing weird things like every game Mario is in.
03-22-07, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Silt
Even though the game has been in development for 10 years and is the joke in computer gaming....all they need is some aggressive/catchy advertising to make sure the game is a top seller when it's finally release. I'm thinking something along the lines of taking out full pages ads with the slogan: "3D Realms is about to make you their bitch".
03-22-07, 03:22 AM
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It's funny how that list is already out of date, since Vista has been released. I generally like it, but certain entries, especially the one about Joss Whedon being our master, take away from their objectivity.
I think they should add that Martin Scorsese has been nominated 3 more times for the Best Director Oscar and won.
If they're going to mention Britney Spears at all, they should add her first marriage, annulment, "real" marriage, having 2 kids, and getting divorced, maybe with rehab thrown in there somewhere as well.
I think they should add that Martin Scorsese has been nominated 3 more times for the Best Director Oscar and won.
If they're going to mention Britney Spears at all, they should add her first marriage, annulment, "real" marriage, having 2 kids, and getting divorced, maybe with rehab thrown in there somewhere as well.
04-30-07, 01:58 PM
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I meant to bump this last Friday when it was the 10 year anniversary of the game being announced.
I wonder if there are any employees who have worked on this project the whole 10 years?
I wonder if there are any employees who have worked on this project the whole 10 years?
04-30-07, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by gerrythedon
Recent rumors suggested that Duke Nukem Forever was also coming to Xbox 360. "The plan is definitely to bring DNF to multiple platforms," Miller said, though he would not name specific consoles.
04-30-07, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
Better would be "10 years in the making---just buy the fucking thing."
05-01-07, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Fincher Fan
When it comes out it will probably be exactly the same as the other hundred of fps games on the market.
I always get the feeling that people who claim every FPS is the exact same have not played a FPS since the Doom clone days of the '90s. The FPS genre has come a long ways since then. Sure you still get the typical Doom clone once in awhile, but there are also unique FPS games like Deus Ex, Half-life, Gears of War, Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon, Far Cry PC, etc. Saying those games are all the same is ignorant.
05-01-07, 11:26 AM
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The problem is when you're not a big fan of the genre it's harder to appreciate the differences.
So FPS's seem a little "samey" to me while I love platformers which I'm sure seem samey to people that aren't big fans of them.
So FPS's seem a little "samey" to me while I love platformers which I'm sure seem samey to people that aren't big fans of them.