You answered your own question within the post.

Seriously, if all three consoles launched at the same time, and one of them was backwards compatable in terms of controllers...I would probably buy that console regardless of the launch library.

High profit margin on controllers.

Wasn't PS2 controller the same as PS1?

Except for the pressure sensitivtity, yes it was. I still don't think that's the Xbox 2 controller, it looks too cheap and simple.

:up: I can't stand the PS2 controller. I really don't like the 4 shoulder buttons either.

Even if it is, I am sure it is a rough version. No sense making it look polished with a logo and nice looking buttons etc. at this point.

Personally, I like the original MS Xbox controller. I have large-ish hands and find it to be very comfortable. I can't stand the PS2 controller. It makes my hands cramp. I would like to see the Xbox 2 controller be like the original except with better positioning/spacing of the black/white buttons. There should be two rows of three buttons just like on the old Genesis 6-button pad. Keep the shoulder buttons, of course.

IMO, I love the S controller. first they say no hard drive and now this POS controller. I don't have a PS2, but maybe I should buy one now.

Ive got big hands so I perfer the Orignal XBox Controller. They should at least give you an option of a larger and smaller one.

Keep in mind that neither this controller design nor the lack of a hard drive has been confirmed by Microsoft in any official statements. So, don't buy a PS2 just yet (actually, don't buy one at all at this point--PS3 maybe, but not PS2).

Where's the picture for this? Anyone still have it?

I saved it to my work computer.

host it and post it when you get a chance if you please - I'd like to ask my buddy at MS if that's what he saw along with the pics of the console in the other thread.

Here ya go..

http://pixyjunket.digitalcrap.net/pics/xbox2.jpg

Yeah - I asked my friend about both this and the console pictures - this one is a real picture of the prototype controller. He says the final product will look different though. He knew about the console pictures and he confirmed that they were fake.

Sony did. PS2 uses the same controller as the regular Playstation. It includes one upgraded controller but you can use the old ones just fine. You don't get the inmproved vibration or pressure sensitive buttons, but it's still compatible.

AND, you can play all your old Playstation games on it. :D