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RM811 10-01-03 09:25 AM

Gamecube Cables
 
I just got a camecube. Does anyone have an opinion on how much better s-video looks compared to the regular rca video cables that are provided with the cube? I assume it is worth the $7.00. Also does anyone know where to find the component video cables for gamecube.
Thanks in advance for your input.

Adam Tyner 10-01-03 09:42 AM

Component cables are, unless something has changed fairly recently, only available for order directly through Nintendo.

PixyJunket 10-01-03 09:43 AM

I ordered the S-Video from Nintendo's site. The difference is staggering!! Wow.

~~ PAL ~~ 10-01-03 10:10 AM

Component cables are still sold exclusively only at Nintendo's site.

young 10-01-03 10:13 AM

<strike>i thought i had a universal cable (for gc, ps2, xbox) that has component video. i may be wrong... i will look into it right now.</strike>

never mind... i think i have an s-video version.

PixyJunket 10-01-03 10:14 AM

I'm in the group that only trusts first party hardware. If you're not as anal as I am, Monster Cables can be found a Best Buy for all 3 systems.

~~ PAL ~~ 10-01-03 10:17 AM

Monster only made s-video cables for GC, not component cables.

sdcrym 10-01-03 10:56 AM

I bought an S-vid cable on ebay for a few dollars. The difference is huge.

Josh H 10-01-03 11:04 AM

Also, the S-video cable is the same one used for the SNES and N64, so if you have one of those laying around you can just use it.

There is a difference, more noticeable on larger TVs, but it's still a good bit of difference even on my 27" Wega.

Component really only makes a difference on HDTVs and large TVs, unless you're a hardcore videophile and know what to look for.

fujishig 10-01-03 11:30 AM

You'll find a few threads on this subject, but the general consensus seems to be that composite to s-video is pretty staggering. It depends on the filter your TV uses, I guess... but even on a 27" WEGA with a pretty good filter, s-video is still better (s-video bypasses the filter).

Component is a little better for non-progressive sources. If you have an HDTV with Progressive Scan capabilities, component is a must.

It also seems that, at least for the gamecube, there is very little difference between first party s-video cables and cheapy cables. And unless you need a really long cable, I wouldn't necessarily invest in a Monster s-video. Component cables, as people have said above, are only available direct from nintendo... because of the proprietary connector, no one else has come out with one.

I'd also recommend getting Video Essentials or some other calibration DVD, to calibrate the colors correctly. This can make a huge difference, and you may need different settings for different cables...

Josh H 10-01-03 11:40 AM

One problem with most of the third party cables, is that most have a plastic block on them, making it impossible to peel the video away from the audio cables, which can be a problem if you don't use a switcher and need to run the audio to a receiver, and the s-video directly to the TV.

fujishig 10-01-03 11:42 AM

Doesn't the 1st party nintendo cables have the same problem? I've held off on getting component cables from them because I heard that you can't separate the video from the audio, and unlike my other systems, the GC doesn't have an optical out as an alternate audio source...

PixyJunket 10-01-03 12:01 PM

The Gamecube's component cables plug into a seperate jack on the back of the system, and the cable are the video only portion. You use the standard A/V cable in the other jack to hook up audio.

Josh H 10-01-03 12:08 PM

No, the nintendo S-video cable can be peeled apart.

RM811 10-01-03 01:05 PM

Thanks for all the posts people. My one concern was being able to peel apart the cables to separate audio from video. It looks like I will have to go with a nintendo cable for that. I have a progressive scan tv so I would like to go that route but both my inputs are already used with my dvd player and xbox so I think I am going the s-video route unless I can find an inexpensive way to component video switch.

Josh H 10-01-03 01:16 PM

You can use a cheapo composite switcher for component. Just plug the three video cables into the yellow, red and white plugs on the switcher, and then to your TV.

You can get these pretty much anywhere that sells games for $15-20.

PixyJunket 10-01-03 01:26 PM

Josh, hmm.. I always wondered if that would work? Is there a quality loss when doing this? If not, why are the component switch boxes so expensive?

Josh H 10-01-03 01:32 PM

I haven't done it personally, but from what I've read here, most people don't notice any signal degradation.

Again, it's probably one of those things where you have to be a videophile and no what to look for to notice any degradation.

As for why component switchers cost so much, it's probably the same reason Monster cables (which really aren't any better than $10 or so cables from radio shack) cost so much. People don't know better and assume more $= higher quality.

PixyJunket 10-01-03 01:40 PM

That makes sense, though it would be a pain in the ass because you'd probably have to have another switch-box to handle the audio.

Josh H 10-01-03 02:00 PM

Yep. A component switcher is definitely more convenient. One just has to way convenience vs cost.

Plus if you only have a couple things hooked up via component, you might have enough audio ports in your receiver to not need a switcher for them.

But if you have several things, your better off just shelling out the $ for a component switcher that has plugs for the audio as well.

mmconhea 10-01-03 02:19 PM

I've progressed through 3 cables for my cube.
From composite to S-video I notice more contrast and a sharper picture.
From S-video to component, I noticed (aside from progressive scan which provides a vastly sharper image) brighter and more acurate colors.

runnersdialzero 10-01-03 02:35 PM

Now with the Nintendo component cable, does this make all games look better or just one's that are 480i compatible? I have a HDTV with progressive scan so I am very curious.

Saxon

PixyJunket 10-01-03 02:41 PM

Well.. I can't say from experience, but non-prog game will benefit from extra color definition and seperation.. however, it's one of those "only notice when side-by-side" things. If you've got prog-scan ability, might as well get the components, most of the AAA Nintendo titles are using it (Metroid/Zelda).

jediwicz 10-01-03 02:43 PM

Play Metroid Prime first when you get the comp. cables. I waited to beat the game until I got my Sony 46 wide and cables from Nintendo. I turned on the cube, held B and beat the game the way it was meant to be beaten. I still go back and explore-Phendrana is a sight to behold. F-Zero is another game that looks sweet is prog. scan. And Zelda. And Mario Golf. And Wario World. And Gameboy Player.

PixyJunket 10-01-03 02:46 PM

Stop, stop it!! :(

Don't tease my lack of progressive scan with thought of hi-res Metroids. :(


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