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KnightLerxst 10-17-02 11:22 PM

Once again videogames are a scapegoat.

They were saying the same thing after columbine.

Get Me Coffee 10-17-02 11:24 PM

Such flippin' crap! A video game didn't train this guy.

neiname 10-17-02 11:25 PM


Originally posted by Josh Hinkle

Playing a game won't train someone to do this.

I agree with this point, no way someone learned how to do thsi from a video game


Originally posted by Josh Hinkle

It might desensitize them to shooting people (even that's debateable)

I would argue that video games and movies and the media do desensitize people to violence

RVP 10-18-02 12:08 AM

I have never played a game in which you have to control your breathing to shoot acurately. Which in real long range shooting is very important. This guy has to have been trained in this type of shooting. I think is prob. ex armed forces. No game could teach you how to do this, the media just want an easy place to point a finger at.

Gallant Pig 10-18-02 12:36 AM

The only game I've played that comes close to being able to immitate what this guy is doing is definitely GTA3. In fact, you could fire it up and act like the Maryland Sniper if you want. If a clip of the game where someone is doing that gets out into the mainstream, eek!

asabase 10-18-02 01:12 AM

Did they say what game they were blaming? Hopefully it wasn't Doom AGAIN. They should know that America's Army and Day of Defeat and Counterstrike make much better targets.

Still stupid though.

ZootedGranny 10-18-02 02:04 AM

To quote David Cross, "What was the videogame Hitler gave to the Nazi's?"

And to quote Chris Rock "Whatever happened to crazy? What, you can't be crazy no more? Did we eliminate crazy from the dictionary?"


People keep bringing up videogames, but I bet when I went to go get my license when I was 16, if I would've said "I am good at Gran Turismo, give me my license!" they would've made me leave the place.

Jackskeleton 10-18-02 05:35 AM

Millions play Counter strike every day. Do you see everyone of those AWP whores out there doing this? NO

this connection is so full of crap it's not even funny. great, now video games are the easy way out. -rolleyes-

BigDave 10-18-02 05:52 AM


Originally posted by RVP
I have never played a game in which you have to control your breathing to shoot acurately. Which in real long range shooting is very important. This guy has to have been trained in this type of shooting. I think is prob. ex armed forces. No game could teach you how to do this, the media just want an easy place to point a finger at.
Not sure of the range he's shooting at, but I'm guessing that a hunter with a decent shot could do what he's doing. Now being crazy enough to kill a human is a different story.

Trigger 10-18-02 06:44 AM

http://ads.kleinman.com/images/top_search.gif

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=243787

:p


(I really just posted the link cuz I said my thoughts in that thread and am too tired to retype it here.)

asabase 10-18-02 08:31 AM


Originally posted by RVP
I have never played a game in which you have to control your breathing to shoot acurately. Which in real long range shooting is very important.
There are several games like that. When using the sights in Americas Army, the gun sways with your breath.

In Day of Defeat, the scoped guns sway back and forth but they don't stop completely like you let out your breath.

I'm sure there's a bunch more, but those are the only two I've played recently.

If the sniper is trained on PC games why doesn't he use a railgun? :p

Get Me Coffee 10-18-02 09:07 AM

Looks to me like a double thread :D

Scheherazade 10-18-02 09:39 AM

I heard it was Duck Hunt.

Icculus 10-18-02 09:59 AM


Originally posted by Scheherazade
I heard it was Duck Hunt.
http://home.attbi.com/~ehartnet/dog.bmp

Dubya 10-18-02 10:15 AM


Originally posted by Gallant Pig
The only game I've played that comes close to being able to immitate what this guy is doing is definitely GTA3. In fact, you could fire it up and act like the Maryland Sniper if you want. If a clip of the game where someone is doing that gets out into the mainstream, eek!
The first thing I thought of when the sniper began his spree was "how long before the press begins doing stories about GTA3 being similar to this?"

mmconhea 10-18-02 10:22 AM

If video games trained this guy, then why aren't the cops scoping out the local arcades? The press just wants to sell newspapers.

Last time I picked up a real gun, I didn't know how to fire it. I couldn't find the "A" Button.

lesterlong 10-18-02 11:29 AM


Originally posted by RVP
I have never played a game in which you have to control your breathing to shoot acurately. Which in real long range shooting is very important. This guy has to have been trained in this type of shooting. I think is prob. ex armed forces. No game could teach you how to do this, the media just want an easy place to point a finger at.
That happens in Metal Gear Solid 2, you take some sort of medication that stops your hand from shaking. In Grand Theft Auto 3 you can pick off people from roofs. I hope they add people leaving retail stores and pumping gas in Vice City for realism!!

RVP 10-18-02 12:13 PM

But I am talking a game that made you control your breathing in real life, not in the game. I know some games have a sway to the gun when you are sniping, but it doesn't make you control your breathing at home to steady the rifle in the game. This is what i was originaly talking about.

Groucho 10-18-02 12:21 PM

I don't know, there may be something to this. Thanks to videogames I have mastered leaping over rolling barrels, eating fruits in one gulp, and breathing fire.

namja 10-18-02 12:38 PM

MOD NOTE: Two threads merged.

Groucho 10-18-02 12:45 PM


Originally posted by Groucho
MOD NOTE: console bashing comment removed. -namja
I just saw this. :lol:

namja 10-18-02 12:47 PM


Originally posted by Groucho
I just saw this. :lol:
Glad you saw it. Now, you've been officially warned. Your next offense will result in a suspension.

slop101 10-18-02 02:38 PM

I don't know dude.

I've been playing Tony Hawk for a while and now I'm a proffesional skateboarder.

I haven't played GTA, but if I did, I'm sure I'd turn into a criminal. Just like way back when, after I played Space Invaders, I helped to eliminate a race of aliens bent on taking over our planet.

But right now I gotta go play some more Madden - I'm hoping to get drafted on to the Giants next season as their starting quarterback.

Groucho 10-18-02 04:16 PM

Wow. Okay. I'm going to briefly "step out of character" here and explain a few things.

MOD NOTE: Inappropriate comment deleted ... again. -namja

I was not console bashing, but rather trying to make a point using an example that most of us would find humorous. I chose the example because a) it's not a real game so nobody would get offended, and b) because the game, although a parody, is exactly the kind of thing these pundits on the media who blame videogames for real world violence would like us to be playing.

If somebody took offense to my crack, I apologize. I meant no disrespect to any real console or game. I did, however, mean to disrepect and mock those people who are so out of touch with reality to think that eliminating violent video games is some kind of "magic bullet" that will turn our society into a Utopia.

Thank you for your time.

tsohg 10-18-02 05:34 PM


Originally posted by Icculus
http://home.attbi.com/~ehartnet/dog.bmp
:grunt: :grunt: I hated that damn_dog QUIT LAUGHING AT ME!!!
(tsohg pulls out his light gun and sits really close to the tv)


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