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Cysco 11-18-01 03:06 PM

Cube HDTV cables?
 
Anyone able to find the component video cables for the gamecube this morning? I went to five different stores and didn't find any. It's lame to have to play Rogue Leader with no progressive scan.

I searched online and the only place i could find it was direct from Nintendo. Only problem is there store is broken.

-=cysco

Smidget 11-18-01 03:27 PM

Store broken? I just orderd from them not too long ago (2 hours?) and the order went through fine, I called 2 TRU, 2 EB, 2 Targets, and the 2 EB stores said only place to find that is online, all the others only had RF Adapters........

Eric F 11-18-01 03:31 PM

Do all games support at least 480p with the cables or are some interlaced?

Cysco 11-18-01 04:22 PM

Every time i try to check out i get an error screen that says "The Mall/Store is currently experiencing problems.
Please try again later."

Maybe their site couldn't handle the traffic. Who knows.

Anyway, no, not all the games have a progressive scan option. However, all the major titles do. I.e. Star Wars, Smash Bros. etc.

I can't wait to play Star Wars in HDTV goodness. Mmmmmmm

-=cysco

Groucho 11-18-01 04:55 PM

480p games (that I know of):

Luigi's Mansion
Rogue Leader
Wave Race

Non-480p games (that I know of):

Super Monkeyball (not that it matters...the game is superb regardless)

Nosebleed 11-18-01 05:04 PM

4x3 480p isn't HDTV ... Dreamcast can do that, but it ain't HDTV resolutions.

Smidget 11-18-01 06:13 PM

I thought all games supported progressive? Does anyone have any more info on this subject?

fab 11-18-01 07:09 PM


Originally posted by Groucho
You can use the component cables for the N64, if you have them or can find them. They are exactly the same.

Interlaced games (that I know of):

Smash Brothers Melee
Luigi's Mansion
Rogue Leader
Wave Race

Non Interlaced games (that I know of):

Super Monkeyball (not that it matters...the game is superb regardless)


There are no component cables for N64. The Composite and S-Video cables for both N64 and SNES work fine on the Gamecube though.

Also, all Gamecube games support interlaced TVs (of course), and all of them are also supposed to support 480p, however I can tell you that Super Monkey Ball does not. Super Monkey ball works with the component cables, but only in 480i.

I have the asian version of the component video cables (bought them online through an import shop) and they work fine for all the USA games.

--
fab

Michael T Hudson 11-19-01 07:42 AM

I looked as well with no luck. We shall see.

Groucho 11-19-01 08:17 AM

Altered the erroneous information in my previous post. When I made it, I'd been playing too much with my monkey balls.

jeffdsmith 11-19-01 08:54 AM

VGA Box
 
? Does anyone know if anyone out there is going to offer a VGA box like the DC had to hook up to you PC? That would be very nice. anyone else interested in this?

PS I believe all games are required to support the lowest level of HDTV, but can support more if the company desires to do so. If anyone does more, I'm betting it will be Rare.

fab 11-19-01 09:28 AM

VGA box for GC.
 
There is a VGA box for the GC made by a third party company... the same company that makes the VGA box for the PS2. It's not really taking the VGA signal and outputting it (like the DC VGA box) but it is just doing line-doubling and outputting 480p (that also works with VGA monitors). It's probably not really any better than the line doubler that is in your 480p compatible TV anyway.

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fab

jeffdsmith 11-19-01 11:01 AM

So basically I would have 480 on my pc monitor then? What did the DC box do resolution wise?

Michael T Hudson 11-19-01 03:27 PM

Dreamcast was 480P and it looked great. :)

Joe Schmoe 11-24-01 12:19 PM

I've seen a brochure from Nintendo in stores that says the component cables are available only through Nintendo, so they won't be sold in stores. There was an 800 number to call. Probably the same one in the manuals.

I know component cables will improve the picture quality, but will they also present the game in 16X9 format?

Sominex 11-24-01 01:55 PM

Someone help me understand this a bit more clearer--


My brother bought a new TV a few month ago (32") It has component inputs (the video chord that has three ends to it)

This is not progressive scan right?

What is this? Jusr better picture quality?

If I get these cables can he just plug them in and then the graphics will automatically be upgraded? or does he have to chnage something in the game settings?

Lastly... will he be able to play all games with the component video cables? (regardless of if they support the better graphics or not) He would not ahve to do anything stupid like change cables every time he wants to play a component cable game and a non component game would he?

Someone spell it all out for me..

what does "component" do?

Cheers all!

Michael T Hudson 11-24-01 02:54 PM

I picked up a set from Japan this morning for 45 dollars. I am going to go to a local High End Audio Video store and see what it looks like on the DLP and the 110 screen. Should be cool. :)

madmike 11-24-01 09:53 PM

Stupid question: How do I get audio out of the GC if I use the component cables? They don't seem to have the audio cables built into them (Judging from pictures I've seen), and wouldn't the component cables take up that plug-in? Do you have to buy separate audio cables?

Also: Does anyone actually have the GC VGA box? If so, how good is it?

CreatureX 11-24-01 10:41 PM


Originally posted by madmike
Stupid question: How do I get audio out of the GC if I use the component cables? They don't seem to have the audio cables built into them (Judging from pictures I've seen), and wouldn't the component cables take up that plug-in? Do you have to buy separate audio cables?


You use the regular stereo AV cable that comes with the GC for sound. You plug in the red and white plugs (audio) and the yellow (video) plug is not used.

Sominex 11-27-01 11:06 AM

bump

can someone shed some light on my question for me
Someone help me understand this a bit more clearer--


-----------
My brother bought a new TV a few month ago (32") It has component inputs (the video chord that has three ends to it)

This is not progressive scan right?

What is this? Jusr better picture quality?

If I get these cables can he just plug them in and then the graphics will automatically be upgraded? or does he have to chnage something in the game settings?

Lastly... will he be able to play all games with the component video cables? (regardless of if they support the better graphics or not) He would not ahve to do anything stupid like change cables every time he wants to play a component cable game and a non component game would he?

Someone spell it all out for me..

what does "component" do?

Cheers all!
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Aghama 11-27-01 11:26 AM

Component cables are necessary for progressive scan, but you can use them just fine in place of composite or s-video. Nothing needs to be changed console-side. The picture should be slightly better than s-video on a 32".

As for rough definitions, s-video splits the signal into luminance (Y) and chrominance (C), while (color difference) component goes a step further and seperates chrominance into red minus luminance (R-Y) and blue minus luminance (B-Y). I can't explain exactly what that entails, but it allows the component signal to bypass the comb filter and NTSC decoder.

SirPablo 11-27-01 02:11 PM

Here is all you need to know...

component = good

I would use the component cables, but I need that set of inputs on my TV for the DVD player. S-video will be more than enough for me, and my TV doesn't display progressive anyways.

Sominex 11-28-01 10:09 AM

The TV in question has component inputs, but I do not think it is "progressive scan"



So will I notice a difference?

What is the difference between using component cables on a TV WITHOUT progressive


and component cables on a TV WITH Progressive scan

Maynerd 11-28-01 10:26 AM

I believe nintendo is only selling the component video cables direct. So they really are your only option.

Michael T Hudson 11-28-01 10:27 AM


Originally posted by Sominex
The TV in question has component inputs, but I do not think it is "progressive scan"



So will I notice a difference?

What is the difference between using component cables on a TV WITHOUT progressive


and component cables on a TV WITH Progressive scan

I would say yes. IMHO not as big of a jump as composite to svideo but still more clear. :)


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